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General Mach Discussion / Tool measurement G31 strange behavior
« on: June 06, 2016, 04:06:31 PM »
Hi all people with great knowledge

I have been building a ATC with 10 tools for my cnc Syil X6 Mill, I have got the mechanics to work, and everything works fine when using M6 in MDI mode, and also in a program.
But, when I run my M16 command after the M6 I have a strange behavior.

M16 is a automatic tool length macro for measuring the new tool length after the tool change.
I use G31 to set the tool length, and it first goes down to the touch plate with G00 feed, and after the tool hits the Z retracts 10mm and goes down slowly to get accurate measurements.

M6 and M16 have been working fine separately when i worked on the code for these two macros, but when in a program it fails, or after eachother in MDI.
Also when I first start Mach3 it works the first time together in a program or MDI, but not the second time, then I need to restart Mach3.

What happens is after M6 macro the M16 is executed and the first rapid measurement goes well then retracts 10mm in G91 mode, then when it should start going down again in Z then the Tool tray starts to move (B-Axis), and both the Z-axis and B-axis DRO moves, but not the actual Z-axis, I stop the macro and push pageup/page down, the Z works as is should.

If I go into the settings tab and deactivate B axis in Axis Inhibit menu after the M6 macro has finished it works as it should with the M16 macro, and i get the right tool and the tool gets measured.

What could this be?, is this a behavior of the G31 function or something else, if feels strange that the B axis all the sudden would start to move.
Or is there a function for deactivate/Activate the B-axis that I could put in the macro for the tool length measurements.

Attached are the M6 and M16 macros, if someone would like to take a look or use the macros themselves.

Thanks in advance

Thomas

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: April 25, 2014, 03:26:35 PM »
Hello

I have been doing some work on the mill.
Installed the tormach spindle with HTD belt and pulleys.
Ordered a new enclosure (it will arrive next week)

Untill then I have put all the electronics on the wall for easy access
Then I finally got a Rexroth Ecodrive that works with Step/dir, from a company in germany that works with used servos and drives.
they set it upp for me to with a max speed of 6400 rpms, steps per turn is 1200.

Installed everything temporarily to the ESS with BOB (without optocuplers), the servo drive works and I can start/stop Rev the spindle with M3/M5/M4, the spindle speed settings work from 0-5500 rpm, but when I try to go to 5600 the servo driver shuts off with the error code F228: Excessiv deviation.

I have the tried to change a lot of the parameters in the drive with the Drivetop software from indramat, according to the german companys instructions, nothing helps, still the same problem.
I also have tried with different resolution from 300 -3000, still the same issue.
I have tried with quadrature signat insted of ste/dir, no difference.
The cable to the servo motor is the indramat original with shielding.
The cable from the BoB to the connector that has step/dir signals are shielded 

I am not sure if this is a problem with the servo drive or the ESS or something in Mach3. 

I think I remember something I read somewhere about some issues with the ESS step/dir spindle control, dont know if that is still an issue?

Any suggestions?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: March 04, 2014, 05:05:41 AM »
Okay I think I follow, and this is for a drive that not acceps step/dir, and to reverse the ploarity of the 0-10 to 0-(-10)V, I will try alittle more to find a step/dir drive before I go this route.

I have opened the feedback and it is a absolute encoder with a battey attached to it, and a Resolver with this label on it "LTN Servotechnik GmBH, RE-15-4-D01, S/N 11654343, se attached pictures.
I found a company in the US that might have a driver I am looking form but they have not yet answered, they are Advanced Motion Controllers, www.a-m-c.com.
The sign on the motor say 70V/1000 Rpm, so I guess I need 400V to get to 6000 Rpm

I have not yet got a film of the ATC, and I am redoing some parts to make it operate smoother, and installing the new spindle and motor, when I have it working I will post a film.

Thomas

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 28, 2014, 03:45:06 AM »
I have talked to Rexroth about what drive to use and they have sent me a manual for that drive, witch can be found on ebay.
I got the motor really cheap and it would be nice to use it

But not sure how to hook it up to Mach3.

Attached is the indramat manual.

Thanks


Thomas

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 27, 2014, 09:45:22 AM »
Hi

I dont know if there is a hall sensor and what the difference is from a encoder

Attached is the documents on the motor

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 27, 2014, 07:33:45 AM »
Hi Hood

I have read in the documents that the KG0 in the articel no. means K=Resolver feedback with integrated multiturn absolute encoder, G=straight axel without keyway, 0= No Brake.

Thomas

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 26, 2014, 11:29:28 AM »
This is apparently the driver I need DKC02.3-040-7-FW

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 26, 2014, 10:13:32 AM »
Hi

Adlle canot supply any 3 Phase drivers, so I have to scrap that route.

It turns out that a neighbour companay has this motor awailable REXROTH MKD071B-061-KG0-KN, and it revs 6000 rpm, 8 Nm, dont say anything about how many Kw it is but Do you think it will work.

What kind of driver is needed, and what is a resonable price I should offer the selle for the motor?

Thomas

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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 24, 2014, 02:00:13 PM »
Hi Hood

Thanks so much for your explanation.

Adlee also has that motor in a 6000 rpm version so that is fine, the only issue was that it is not awailable in step/dir mode nor PWM, but +10-+10 CW, and -10--10V CCW, but with the driver you suggested then it will work out, and still have the XYZ and B as step/dir
Is there also possibilities to have multiple inputs and outputs for sensors, limitswitches, toollength sensor, Flood pump, air cylinder valves etc or do I need to have somthing extra for that (I have a relaycard for the outputs).

Thomas


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General Mach Discussion / Re: New Member:Help with Mill spindle motor
« on: February 24, 2014, 09:01:46 AM »
Hood

I need to try to understand this, why is the reason I need these two units, and how is the treading handled from mach3 and my cam program? (Bobcad V24)
Is it that the ENC module syncs the rpm and Z movement with the encoder on the motor?

Any sugestions on a suitable servo?
Is the one I have found at adlee a good canidate? http://www.adlee.com/matchservo_motor_with_driver.htm

Or should I insted look for a "real" servo?

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