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for anyone with this issue in future.

any time a dmc 40 or 41 series refuses all attempts to do a firmware upgrade or more so return to an older firmware than what is installed into it

unplug the ethernet cable and use a standard serial cable. get comms up that way and then flash the firmware into it as listed in the user manual.

i had one that would absolutely not allow older firmware to go into it. i set it aside for a day or two and recalled when working at nestle, some units just seem to never allow you to go backwards in firmware on ethernet but on serial it always worked.

for me i spent countless hours, with zero luck.

i had one issue with the galil plugin that would just cease to allow a MDI input at times.

knowing the M3 plugin for galil is what it is, i called galil to ask them if they had insight. they advised me to install X firmware. the latest greatest.
 
that firmware went right in, but i had so many issues with mach3 it was unuseable.

trying to revert back i want to believe galil has a safety feature where going backwards in ethernet is not allowed. it just times out.

i verify what i think i learned i risked locking up a spare unit, installing newer firmware then trying to revert back.
each time it timed out on ethernet. but in serial mode it was a matter of seconds and worked perfectly. now i do any and all firmware on serial



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hi

i have sent a pm requesting to purchase your screenset
thanks

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Galil / Re: Anyone have older revision firmware for DMC40x0 controllers?
« on: January 23, 2021, 05:17:59 PM »
ever get this ironed out?

i went through this a while back and once i got through it it was rather simple.


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id like to get more info on this item. i am looking for 2 mills

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Bargain Basement / Re: Converted Bridgeport Mill
« on: January 23, 2021, 02:23:57 PM »
hi
where is this located and how much you asking?

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Galil / Re: Galil DMC1880 no limits - Encoders
« on: December 12, 2014, 07:15:37 AM »
realize this has not been active for a while now, i feel there is not always enough information shared as answers are found to issues in mach. i have NO doubt some one will be seaching for this same issue someday. i will pass along what i have learned fixed my issue, so that 6 months or a year it may help someone else.

W7 x64, use compatabilty mode, xpsp3 run as admin.

this may or may not be the cure for everyone but, for me & w7 x64 and dmc4080 asus mother board, and my limit/home switches  being seen by mach on the diagnostics page yet not actually working to home the machine it did. my issue was mach saw my home on diagnostic screen, if i activate the switch it would error out stating switch is active mach can not home. deactivated mach would home but ignore the switch when it hit. this cant be both ways!. if it works cancels home why wont it work when it hits?


i chased this for hours on my galil. active low, active hi, cn1 cn -1.

realizing mach was seeing the home sw, the galil was and  they both had the correct active setting in the beginning. yet i spent hrs thinking it was comm, wrong settings. hit the switch mach complains i can not home the axis as the limit switch was active, yet would never find it during home? yea ok.

shut down mach, change the compatability mode and off and running.

the reason i am posting to this are below. we all run into an issue and scrub the forums for answers and lets all agree, its alot of time searching, and depressing to see an unanswered question that can help us.



looking at the some simple questions many ask, that are many legit ones yet they  go an answered for years. no doubt in my mind many people search the forum for an issue, find joy that they came across a post with an issue they have and let down to  find no answers, many views

ones that bother me the most are the ones that are pages long,  4 or 5 people assist and the answer is never posted for the next one of us who may need it.
there are not many members who dont have to ask questions at one time or another and information shared helps us all


many members have migrated to W7 and W7 x64. M$ is pushing us all that way. most of these issues will disappear when mach4 is released. for me i wont be upgrading to mach4 for some time now.

so there are legitimate setup and programming issues for some with W7 more so W7 x64. we should all pass knowledge along as we find cures to issues. it may not be exactly the same fix for each but it sure helps. W7 can be touchy for mach depending on motherboards, processors. i run it on all my machines. each one has its own setup issues. for me i build each Pc using the same components to help eliminate.


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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Uninstalling MSM
« on: April 29, 2013, 05:02:36 PM »
great calm

still no right, reason, privilege, authority, to shut down a licensed version of mach.....whether or not your software is intact, unintact, installed, uninstalled, trial or purchased. nor tie up mach in ways that it takes my time or anyones, to either, uninstall mach, use xmlnotepad, open edit directories, blah blah blah to get back to a default screenset should yours ever be tried as a trial, not be uninstalled correctly, which is back to the inefficient installer/uninstaller that was present then, i still have the trial install, tried it today and then uninstall, guess what? it doesnt work correctly, have you fixed it in later releases? most likely. even then back to my big complaint the one you wont address, shutting down mach, making me spend or anyone spend time getting back to a screen set to get mach running. i am sure you made sure the uninstaller works now. but the one constant here is you dont reflect, answer, explain and totally ignore, is how you shut down mach because you werent paid for a screenset, as i said before and you keep proving, you dont read the complaint, dont respond to it, but defend how it works.  i know how windows works, had i wanted, i could have overwritten any call to license it. softice, wdasm32 etc, i could write that out easy i dont care about it, i only care that you have no right to have shut down mach, beyond much beyond this uninstall issue. had i left it intact, didnt pay, time expired, then what? go thru all the time BS, to just get my machine running? i should not even have to uninstall msm to get mach running. your claim it only loads to one profile is inaccurate. at least the version i have.  on my test pc, 19 profiles, i loaded msm on that pc today, load up softice, and watch msm come active the moment  i load any profile. my only concern is once again, take the time to ensure your uninstallers work, are efficient, thoroughly clean every file they install, that they unlock the files they locked from mach it should put the system back like any other uninstaller. and again plain simple and maybe im wrong if someone tries it dont buy it, take another 30 minutes, program it to default back to mach screenset control with a flag saying it is, due to non purchase. doing it the way its done, is wrong period. arent many peole trying mach, yet your software turns a licensed version into a trial. a subhect i have watched as this progressed you have ignored..........im done,

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Uninstalling MSM
« on: April 29, 2013, 08:35:38 AM »
YOUR QUOTE!.

Finally, as to your complaint that MSM will not run after the trial period has expired, all I can say is that's pretty much the definition of "trial period"...

read this carefully!,,,,,i dont care if MSM runs after the trial period!, it hadnt been used for over 7 months, nor did it ever crop up an issue during those 7 months, how long is your trial period?
cuz it expired long before that!.........so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if it had expired, your master marco folder deleted, every MSM anything i could still find in mach3 folder once YOUR uninstaller claimed to have finished,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and 7 months go by no reference no calls no anything from MSM,,,,,,,,great! mint perfect! ,,,,,i can care less it expired. i can care less it wont let me use something that the trial expired on, that has been uninstalled, but again once more, you prove you dont actually read what people ask or write, your fingers are preloaded with the want to type on the keyboard in defense of your programming skills, please read along word for word here!...............................................your expired, uninstalled MSM, that had not bothered me for over 7 months, didnt tell me i cant use your precious non licensed MSM ,,,,,,,,,,,clicking ok on it, or anything in the box, SHUTS DOWN MY MACH3!!, restarting mach3 only to have it say msm is shutting down now, great shut down MSM, but as i say you intent and purpose to was to control mach3, as it was your own, so doesnt MSM cuz when "msm is shutting down", it shuts down my licensed copy of mach3, which is NOT a god damn trial!,,,,,,,,,,and you have no right to shut it down, to hell with your expired msm trial that what trials are for comment,  again flawed programming, your call to shut down MSM shuts down mach3, soi apparently i have to pay you as well as artsoft to run my mach3? yea right,,,,,knew when i wrote that you wouldnt read it, knew what your response would be thats why i wrote it so many times in that one post, you need to go back and actually read the questions in your forum, word for word, then your responses, many times you dont actually address the real question but one you read into, i had NO big gripe hey it didnt work oh well, no biggie, uninstall it, great i messed up and used your ininstaller incorrectly, guess clicking on uninstall, ok, yes wasnt the correct thing to do, had i done as normal and had revo do it for me, 7 months later i wouldnt be here, for the ONE reason i really am.,.,,,,,,,,informing you, asking you why the F your msm shuts down a licensed version of mach cuz your trial expired,,,,,,,but i expected the reply i got, i knew when i saw how tied into mach you had it, your ego trip to get control of mach, as tho it is your own is only proven by the fact you shut it down should your trial expire

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Uninstalling MSM
« on: April 29, 2013, 08:17:44 AM »
this was about the answer i expected, again the operator, users are wrong. your sofware, its implementation, installation its twisted programming nature are correct. this works with all forms on windows? if i take your reply, suggest to you, every profile in the mach folder was totally removed, my lathe profile, deleted, created a new one, yes i followed the steps that were outlined on how to install it, if it asked questions, gave a choice during install the reference material was studied. im not saying for all it wont work or isnt good, but for some its obviously not. i have read many people who have had issues making it work with an atc. my m6 macro has worked for years, never missed a tool change, never hung up, infact many here on the the mach forum use that same macro. i followed on this forum and yours every post related to an atc macro call, i followed your answers, infact the day i installed msm i had it working. m6atc could i trust it? did it work flawlessly as before? was it reliable? no, 3 of 10 times i would work, the rest time out, fault error out or do nothing. i read other who said in trial mode expect this. great who wants to try software that they cant test rely on and then spend money on it, when they can read on forums people still have issues making it work. the atc reliability was the main issue i  had. what good is an atc that works, until msm comes along and makes it half as reliable? defeats the main purpose of the atc. why spend hours making msm work with the atc when those hours accumulate to more time then it took to get the turret running in the first place?

as to uninstall whether its this that or the other, your msm anything in the mach folder was deleted, my lathe profile deleted, i made a new one for my lathe, granted right off no issues, weeks later one here or there, then it begins shutting down my mach3 with is paid for licensed, and has been for as many as 8 years. i am not computer illiterate, when i couldnt figure out why the atc wouldnt work, out comes softice, wdasm32, etc only to realize then that id never be able to trust nor rely on msm for any atc. i worked for nestles for many years in maintenance, plc programming included. nothing new to me. you say it cant happen, or it wasnt uninstalled, wasnt installed correctly, had it been assembled, programmed correctly, it wont matter how where it is installed, your UNINSTALLER when used SHOULD follow its own install path that it is suppose to write during the install and COMPLETLEY uninstall EVERYTHING it installed. written correctly it would, thats why installer, and uninstallers are assembled, supplied and used, and why they are suppose to write to the install/uninstall log. to ensure they do. go to this folder remove this that etc, having to go here or there to get to the uninstaller, it may be here, may be there, do this, then look here means clearly it doesnt work, wasnt assembled nor programmed right. had it been when i USED your uninstaller, whether i made this profile, that one, matters not, it would have been gone.

i have a tormach pnc with atc, have you any idea how tormach installs mach? where? if so, why would msm effect that on the same computer? let me tell you it did. that after the lathe was enough, i wiped the hard drive to ENSURE it was gone.

the screen set for my bridgeport style mill uses a screenset i created,  has an atc, my own plugins for modbus comms, atc control and plc, it doesnt hiccup, i tired yours not for myself but for others who i manufacture cnc plasma and router tables for. they wanted it, i tried it on my lathe to evaluate for them. not because i needed it as one person but perhaps a chance for you to get multiple sales from. i had my issues they tried it and had theirs, like me they came to the forum here and on yours. found answers and suggestions given by you, but we all saw the same thing, the end users were wrong. every machine is different, they will be just by nature. we all dont built assemble our machines with the same components, wire them the same, we all dont use the same versions or mach, each version there has its own glitches. we all dont use the same pc's, same OS, features, or comms, so i can understand why different people have different issues. what i dont like is, the reply IT WORKS, you didnt do this, you need to do this, had you done this it would work, i keep asking myself, if it worked today, for 6 hours why at hour 7 did it just stop? why does it take 3 hours of messing with it to get it working again, why do i need to delete my m6, your m6 copy and paste the same originals back in then it works again? why do the first 2 tool changes seem to be on time the 3 takes 1-2 minutes to complete. why would the 6 one come back with the master macro error, my point is my atc macro is proven to work, most people here on mach using a rotating turret are using the same macro, 10 tool changes it worked 10 times, done your way, either its accepted by your master macros or its not, 10 changes right off it worked 10 times, day 2 right out of the gate it worked, 3 tool change it sat there, sat there, then tried to move the turrent backwards. changing nothing but hitting e stop, clearing it, it worked correctly, off running, next tool change, worked, next one, nope done, sat there, then gave me the master marco error. yes people write your forum ask questions get the it works answer, then they go away, poll them, i have asked a few, they dont stop asking cuz they have it running, they stop cuz they gave up, removed it and went another way.........

my last comment, bitch, gripe and i can care less about the install this that or uninstall, YOUR MSM has no right to shut down a licensed version of mach, period!, you dont not own or hold the copyright to mach, and even if you did, it being licensed it has a right to run,, whether i installed your msm correctly in your eyes, or not, whether i uninstalled it correctly or not, it shutting down my licensed copy of mach 3, for any reason is the gripe that got me here. it was not my selected screen set nor control, hadnt been for months, yet i had to dick around waste my time, deal with a customer who was waiting for his part, while your msm wouldnt allow me to run my machine. creating a new profile, didnt work, i expect to see standard answers and reply, the fact remains, built it assemble it, create and uninstaller that works, put it on the one computer to the one machine you really care about the most, install it and uninstall it then use revo or someother program to hunt for any strings left over, make sure it works then release it. and by all means remove the calls to shut down mach3 if its is licensed. at the most it should default back to the 1024 screen. and then who gives a SH** if it is licensed? if its not being called for or used?
poll those who tried it, and dont use it, find them its the biggest gripe, you tried to build your own mach3 within mach3 and makes a headache for anyone who uses mach3 for anything more than a hobby. its a night mare to add things later to the machine, its just suppose to be a simple screenset. a user interface. its built to control

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CVI MachStdMill (MSM) / Re: Uninstalling MSM
« on: April 27, 2013, 08:12:41 PM »
i am posting her because its the only place it has been listed, been covered, comes up in any search engine, it would be nice if it actually did UN install. i have down loaded this just to try, its listed as being able to "try", it seems neat, but for me its full of flaws, not fully functional. i followed along here on the forum, m6 start, that works great on my lathe atc causes nothing but crashes. yes i followed every you must do this that and the other. my take on support is "its great, it works, we just program it wrong. on my lathe atc it would work 3 days then hang up on a tool change on the 4th then kick out some abstract standard "MACHSTDMILL******error".,,, try running mach3 normal screen sets by choosing one after you install this screen, you cant now you are reqiuired to get a machstdmill license to even run a licensed version of mach3,,,,,,cuz machstdmill is shutting down, what eats me up is this, i installed it for a week, tested it, didnt like it, uninstalled it exactly as posted here. i still face days when i fire up my lathe, during opening screens i get a dll error, machstdmill licensing errors, and mach closes..this is MONTHS after it has been uninstalled. i tried it, decided cant rely on its twisted ways of being so tied up into every file mach3 runs on. go back to my normal lathe screen and ask for a toold change from my atc and get machstdmill telling me i dont have a correct m6start macro cuz its not looped thru machstdmill masters anymore. wipe out my mach3 folder, reinstall mach3 and still i face error messages from machstdmill, now due to its length of time from my TRIAL, it wants to be licensed? WT****??? my take is this, most tech issues i see from guys who were able to design, build wire, program a lathe atc, who had issues with the way it would behave or not work on a working atc, i saw so many standard answers, my mind see this, hey my program works fine your doing this wrong. lets spend at much time developing a true working unistall, because paid, trial either, or none, this screenset has no right to shut down my licensed verson of mach3, during trial or after! let along MONTHS after its been so called uninstalled.   it was removed from my computer no more than a week after it was installed, that would now have been 7 months ago. a day of messing around trying to get mach3 to work correctly after..today months later its back shutting me down insisting it isnt licensed!. before you tie software so far inside someone elses, that is licensed what gives you the right to shut down a licensed program? sure deactivate your pride and joy. you have taken windows loopholes and issues to a whole new level. until today i had been still thinking maybe its just lathe related, maybe i will try it on my mill, hey its been running trouble free for over two years, not one hiccup. seeing how many issues i had just thinking id check this screen out, then trying to rid my self of it, i wouldnt consider it for free or if i was paid to try it

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