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Should've known anybody that could spell voilá correctly would have the answer!;D

Comes with living in France and having an AZERTY keyboard...

Glad to help someone else, usually I'm the one asking but on this occasion I hit and solved the same problem just in advance of you


General Mach Discussion / Re: DROs randomly changing in Turn
« on: July 21, 2013, 07:16:13 AM »
Thanks for your thoughts, I confirmed this morning that 057 had the same effect which seemed to appear at the end of running a wizard.
I appear to have traced the problem to the General Config page related to the actions at the end of a program - the tickbox in "remove all offsets" was set. Removing that seems to have cured the issue.

I suspect you have the same problem as I have - go to the General Config page and on the lower left there is a block regarding the actions after a M30. Uncheck the 'remove offsets on program end' tick box and voilá....well, worked for me anyway!

General Mach Discussion / Re: DROs randomly changing in Turn
« on: July 20, 2013, 05:39:54 PM »
Thanks for your response.

So far I have gone back to 062 with exactly the same results. Any suggestion which version might be be considered stable for turn?


General Mach Discussion / DROs randomly changing in Turn
« on: July 17, 2013, 11:39:36 AM »
Hi All,

Proceeding slooooooowly up the learning curve with Turn, I have now arrived at the next problem which I am hoping someone will instantly point a finger at the solution....

Turn is installed at 066 (full licence) operating a Compact5 PC on a dedicated PC running XP SP3.

The problems seem to have materialised since I started using the tool tables.
I always start with a 'ref all' to move the carriage (with reference Tool no. 0) to my machine reference point, referenced with opto-switches.

The symptoms are that I use Turn with one of the turn wizards to carry out some piece of work and at some apparently random point, the X and Z axes change - not so far in mid program, but either after the end or when I have stopped the program in the middle to measure or to stop.

Is this a known bug somewhere?

Hoping that someone will know what my issue is, if not I will have to delve deeper into the apparently random nature of the problem.

Thanks in advance,


PS, I would have checked the bug list but "http://www.machsupport.com/knownbug.php" now terminates on the Newfangled site with a 404 error.

General Mach Discussion / Re: MSM Turn tool tables - need a primer!
« on: July 05, 2013, 08:09:11 AM »
Good point, copy/pasted there as well.
However I thought that I had seen something on the Mach3 forum...


General Mach Discussion / MSM Turn tool tables - need a primer!
« on: July 05, 2013, 05:08:57 AM »
Hi All,

I am being very dim at the moment trying to setup a set of 5 interchangeable toolholders on my lathe running MSM Turn (not mill-turn) and I seem to be going around in circles.
mach3 is at 067, MSM version is 2.09

Can anyone give me a step by step sequence, ideally using the reference point as the Master tool, otherwise using a defined tool as the Master, all based on the MSM screens?

I thought that something existed but I cannot find any links.



General Mach Discussion / Re: G76 threading issues - any thougts?
« on: June 19, 2013, 02:16:54 PM »
I really wish I could offer a detailed breakdown of the problem for everyone's benefit but I have lost the enthusiasm for debugging elderly Win XP PCs - if I ever had any!
Hopefully no-one else will suffer similar problems, or if they do, they will consider trying another PC as part of their investigation.

Thanks again to you and the others for your help and efforts.

General Mach Discussion / Re: G76 threading issues - any thougts?
« on: June 18, 2013, 04:21:09 PM »

Now that I have deeply investigated my problem and have found a solution, I want to share it with you all in the hope that it may help others in a similar situation as well as as a sort of 'thank you' to everyone who read and contributed to the apparently never ending saga.

Briefly, the problem was that I was unable to cut threads reliably without the lathe deciding at some point to not start a particular pass of the thread. All electronics looked fine and the problem was intermittent. I tried many tests and solutions proposed here as well as my own, none being successful

Finally I resurrected the ancient PC that came with the lathe complete with the original Emco software and installed Mach on top of the French Windows 2000 OS. This proceeded to work perfectly...I have since installed Win XP and reinstalled both Mach3 and the updated screens from Calypso and it continues to work perfectly. Meanwhile the PC that I was using for both the lathe and my mill (not simultaneously!) continues to work perfectly too...
Thus the conclusion that I draw is that that particular PC has some bizarre timing issue that causes problems on time critical items like screwcutting but allows perfect function on the less critical mill. Who knows what, I no longer care!

The moral of the story and the 5 pages of forum space is that if you see an odd problem, try another PC.

Thanks to you all


General Mach Discussion / Re: G76 threading issues - any thougts?
« on: April 04, 2013, 12:49:32 PM »
Art, Alex,

Let me try and deal with each point in turn since this problem has evolved since my original plea for help:
  • Alex is right, the ''chirp' is not visible on the lathe - I have had a DTI on both axes and the error consistently manifests itself as a stop during or after the G32 with the Z axis usually showing about 27 (Z runs from 30 to zero) and there is no movement of either axis. If you have the chance, you can see it happen on one of the first runs on each of the YouTube vids I posted
  • double G32 - this is the output from the Simple Threading Wizard (v1.17 I think) after I set the test=true flag. That was what initially confused me and my poor lathe was valiantly trying to do what it said. I suggest this is simply a separate issue that presumably needs addressing as well.
  • Use actual spindle speed checked - Hood and others have validated my xml
  • Alex's comments about needing a G4P0 explains why I see the G0 feedrate less than the expected, thanks - and I guess that is also why the G1 is also running slowly
  • Feedrate <75% of max feedrate is fine, albeit close - but I have seen the problem on finer threads as well when I tried to cut a 0.8mm pitchl
  • Unclean index pulse - my thoughts as well, however it looks very clean and sharp on my digital storage scope as viewed at the parallel port connector on the PC
  • hardware conflict - also had similar thoughts so I swapped the external PCI card PP over to the onboard one in case it was related to that but no changes occurred
  • Mach seems to write to LastErrors all of the time but with less information than if the debug flag is set

I will return to PC and index pulse debug I think - I did test using the Driver Test which seemed ok, is there anything else that I can apply or am I now deep into the workings of my PC and the world of XP?


PS how do you stop bullets taking bold italic fonts??

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