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I am also very intrested in the plans or to buy a ready built unit.

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Video P*r*o*b*i*n*g / Re: Getting started with 3D scanning
« on: April 28, 2012, 03:55:23 AM »
Could anyone here please point me to any links, wiki, doc's, on how to setup and get running for video probing.

I have been looking for the last few days but seem to going around in circles.

Does the camera and laser need to be a set angle or distance from the work pice.

I am a right newbe at this.

Thanks for your time.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: motors stalling and or missing steps
« on: April 23, 2012, 03:32:57 PM »
What are the specs of the computer with the problem, and what chipset and drivers are you running?

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Mach3 under Vista / New computer build for Mach3
« on: April 08, 2012, 11:52:33 AM »
Good Day All.
 
I am looking for some advice.

I am looking at building brand new computer for use with Mach3.

My current Mach3 system, is an old Intel Pentium 4, with 1Gb Memory, 120Gb SATA Hard Drive, 32Mb Video Card, PCI Printer Port Card, running on Windows XP Home.
 
I would like to be able to run Mach3 with Windows 7.

I know the Mach3 home page shows the min specs as:
32-bit version of Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, or Windows 7 Operating System.
1Ghz CPU.
512MB RAM.
Non-integrated Video Card with 32MB RAM.

Would the small form factor motherboards like the AMD Fusion or Intel Atom be ok with Windows 7 and Mach3?

I would still be using the PCI Printer Port Card unto I upgrade to Ethernet SmoothStepper.

Thanks for your time.
 
Best Regards.

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Mach3 under Vista / Re: pulsing too fast?
« on: March 29, 2012, 03:48:16 AM »
I can't advice you with your current problem as I don't know the mach3 software that well.
 
But a number of months back I upgraded my main CNC computer with some newer 2nd hand parts, and I had nothing but problems, stalling, missing steps etc.
I tried meny version of Mach3, I tried Windows XP, and Windows 7, and still the same problem.
I gave up in the end and put the old parts back in, and it has worked fine since.

The newer mohterboard was an nvidia nForce 4 chipset, and the old motherboard was an intel chipset.

You do say that your computer is using the nvidia chipset, So I don't know if mach3 don't like nvidia chipsets.

What make and model motherboard is it you are using, my problem motherboard was a FoxConn NF4SLI7AA-8KRS2.

Best Regards.

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Thanks for your replys.
 
The driver board I made as talked about in my last post does seem to work fine, it only support full step mode and no current limiting, as said I have had the steppers working using 12v 5w bulbs to limit the current.
 
I have been able to make my stepper motors work by putting ramdom numbers in the Mach3 motor setup, the figgers seem really low.
 
As you have said it would be best for me just to go out and buy new premade controllers for my stepper motors.
 
Also has you have said even if I get my motors working nice free running I will need to retune the settings once connected to a rig.
 
So I am going to do some more designs in CAD and build the rig within the next one to two weeks I hope.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Best Regards.

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Tweakie.CNC: Thanks for you reply.
 
Due to the risk of over heating and killing one or more of my stepper motors I would like to try and build a Current Limiter for each of the stepper motors.

Quote from: http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/step/current.html
 
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Linear Current Limiters
A pair of high wattage power resistors can cost more than a pair of power transistors plus a heat sink, particularly if forced air cooling is available. Furthermore, a transistorized constant current source, as shown in Figure 4.3, will give faster rise times through the motor windings than the current limiting resistor shown in Figure 4.1. This is because a current source will deliver the full supply voltage across the motor winding until the current reaches the rated current; only then will the current source drop the voltage.



In Figure 4.3, a transistorized current source (T1 plus R1) has been substituted for the current limiting resistor R1 used in the examples in Figure 4.1. The regulated voltage supplied to the base of T1 serves to regulate the voltage across the sense resistor R1, and this, in turn, maintains a constant current through R1 so long as any current is allowed to flow through the motor winding.
Typically, R1 will have as low a resistance as possible, in order to avoid the high cost of a power resistor. For example, if the forward voltage drops across the diode in series with the base T1 and VBE for T1 are both 0.65 volts, and if a 3.3 volt zener diode is used for a reference, the voltage across R1 will be maintained at about 2.0 volts, so if R1 is 2 ohms, this circuit will limit the current to 1 amp, and R1 must be able to handle 2 watts.

R3 in Figure 4.3 must be sized in terms of the current gain of T1 so that sufficient current flows through R1 and R3 to allow T1 to conduct the full rated motor current.

The transistor T1 used as a current regulator in Figure 4.3 is run in linear mode, and therfore, it must dissapate quite a bit of power. For example, if the motor windings have a resistance of 5 ohms and a rated current of 1 amp, and a 25 volt power supply is used, T1 plus R1 will dissapate, between them, 20 watts! The circuits discussed in the following sections avoid this waste of power while retaining the performance advantages of the circuit given here.

When an H-bridge bipolar drive is used with a resistive current limiter, as shown in Figure 4.1, the resistor R2 was not needed because current could flow backwards through R1. When a transistorized current limiter is used, current cannot flow backwards through T1, so a separate current path back to the positive supply must be provided to handle the decaying current through the motor windings when the switches are opened. R2 serves this purpose here, but a zener diode may be substituted to provide even faster turn-off.

The performance of a motor run with a current limited power supply is noticably better than the performance of the same motor run with a resistively limited supply, as illustrated in Figure 4.4:



With either a current limited supply or a resistive current limiter, the initial rate of increase of the current through the inductive motor winding when the power is turned on depends only on the inductance of the winding and the supply voltage. As the current increases, the voltage drop across a resistive current limiter will increase, dropping the voltage applied to the motor winding, and therefore, dropping the rate of increase of the current through the winding. As a result, the current will only approach the rated current of the motor winding asymptotically
In contrast, with a pure current limiter, the current through the motor winding will increase almost linearly until the current limiter cuts in, allowing the current to reach the limit value quite quickly. In fact, the current rise is not linear; rather, the current rises asymptotically towards a limit established by the resistance of the motor winding and the resistance of the sense resistor in the current limiter. This maximum is usually well above the rated current for the motor winding.

 
Can anyone help me work out a working design for my setup.
 
My power supply is rated at 20volts @ 7.5amps.
My steppor motors are rated at 6.2volts @ 1amp.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Best Regards.

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Good Day All.
 
I have been reading the Mach3 CNC Controller Software Installation and Configuration manual to try and setup my stepper motors.
 
I need someone to please dumb it down for me as my brain is not working today.
 
I have four new Astrosyn MY103H702, 200 step, 6.2volt, 1amp, stepper motors wired as Unipolar.
I have read you can run a stepper motor at 2 or 3 times the rated voltage happly, I have also seen pepole running low voltage stepper motors anything upto 48volts.
I contacted astrosyn and they said I can run at any voltage aslong as I don't go over the motors rated current of 1amp.
 
I am looking at running my stepper motors at 18-20volts.
 
I have been looking at ways to limit the current to the stepper motors, I have tried 5w 12v bulbs, and heavy duty resistors I had spare.
The resistors seem to work better and give the stepper motors more starting torque.
I am now looking at building a simple linear current limiter, like the one found at: http://www.cs.uiowa.edu/~jones/step/current.html Figure 4.3.
 
The controllor I am using only supports full step mode.
 
These stepper motors are not yet connected to a CNC unit they are just free running.
 
Can someone please explain to me how I setup my stepper motors for the max Speed and Torque.
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Best Regards.

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I have fixed the X Axis, I had a dry solder join on one of the outputs.
 
Can anyone now advice me on how I go about setting up the stepper motors?
 
Thanks for your time.
 
Best Regards.

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I have now build the full board with all three axis.
 
When the interface port is disconected from the computer it still acts strange, but once it's connected to the computer it stops acting strange.
 
I have found out that you do have to use the Enable pin on the 4028 chip, and this needs to be pulled high for the steppers to work.
 
I now have my PM55L-048, PM35L-048, and a unknown 6 wire stepper connected to the new board.
 
LPT Pin 2 - X Axis Step.
LPT Pin 3 - X Axis Dir.
LPT Pin 4 - X Axis Enable.
LPT Pin 5 - Y Axis Step.
LPT Pin 6 - Y Axis Dir.
LPT Pin 7 - Y Axis Enable.
LPT Pin 8 - Z Axis Step.
LPT Pin 9 - Z Axis Dir.
LPT Pin 14 - Z Axis Enable.
LPT Pin 18-25 - Ground.

I have noted with the PM55L-048, PM35L-048 that if they are left enabled for a few mins they get to hot to touch.
 
I am still using my bench power supply rated at 10amps and running at 12volts.
 
As thease are getting way to hot very quicky even, at 12volts  but at 10 amps, I guess I will need to use current limters, what is best to use bulbs or resistors, and how do I work out what I would need.
 
I am not sure how to setup or tune my stepper motors or if they should just plug in and work.
 
But if I go into Motor Tuning, and enter 2000 steps, Velcity 6, I can then get my stepper motors on Axis Y & Z to turn.
 
I am sure I have a problem on my X Axis as the just vibrates and does not turn at all.
 
Thanks for your time.

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