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Messages - Ian Ralston

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Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) / Re: Novamill
« on: November 28, 2011, 09:00:41 AM »
John,

All three axes were Nema 23, so I didn't have any problems. If your steppers are eight lead, you might be able to seriies connect them for a lower drive current.

Ian

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General Mach Discussion / Re: loosing steps in one direction
« on: October 05, 2011, 12:32:41 PM »
That is a lot of moves! Is the error accumulative? or does it vary up and down. If accumulative, then it could be a rounding up (or down) error in the maths associated with the G code, but finding it would be time consuming. You would have to look for square roots and trig functions or something similar.

Ian

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Tangent Corner / Re: Guitar Fans?
« on: April 09, 2009, 04:02:24 PM »
Ed,Dave,

Tuners are 1/4" UNF Allen screws threaded into brass blocks holding the ends of the strings. Pickups I wound on a lathe - 5,000 turns (if I remember correctly) of very fine wire. These were mounted on threaded Alnico magnets 3/16" diameter for height adjustment. Each coil output had a  variable gain op-amp amplifier, the outputs were summed into another op-amp, then fed through a filter circuit. The total length is 40" and it weighs 7lbs. (We were imperial units back then!)

Ian

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Tangent Corner / Re: Guitar Fans?
« on: April 08, 2009, 07:07:08 PM »
Here's one I made earlier! About 25 years ago. Mostly machined on a Bridgeport clone. My eldest Daughter played double bass and wanted to try out a bass guitar but the ones that she could afford were not very user friendly or very good musically. The biggest problem was the sustain time and making one out of granite was not practical! This one has excellent sustain and hardly ever needs tuning.

Ian

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You might like to compare these two videos.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pgAdO5TLDN0

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rID_OoHl3D4

Just showing what gang tooling, gecko 203Vs and Mach3 at 75 kHz can do.

This is the job it is doing, it is 25mm long.


Ian

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Wire Alignment
« on: November 26, 2008, 04:12:31 PM »
John,

You wrote :-
"No I would not do another but learnt a lot in the process. "
But you have to do it to prove that you can. :)

This quite a practical group, have a look at the Show and Tell section. They do like pictures here. I for one would like to see your carriage grinder setup.

Ian




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General Mach Discussion / Re: Wire Alignment
« on: November 26, 2008, 05:32:00 AM »
Macka,

Don't underestimate the time needed to do this job, it may be better to find a company that does slideway grinding!

My father, who had worked for Victoria Machine Tools and Central Tool and Equipment Company (Centec) here in the UK, decided that a small Victoria horizontal mill knee slide was too far out of alignment (0.030 ins overall) and that he would correct it by rescraping the slideways on the main casting. He only had a master square, a wide straightedge and my help.
The method he adopted was to square one vertical face to the spindle axis and worked from this as a standard to refer the other faces and dovetails. The job took about two days, if I remember correctly and was a lot of hard work. He only used rehardened and ground files as hand scrapers and a lot of time was spent honeing the edges of the scraper (mostly to give his muscles a rest from the scaping action - very tiresome, I know, I tried.). The final finish, for oil retension, was very professional with precise "z" shaped impressions neatly arranged on all working surfaces. After having my efforts unceremoniously compared to the scatchings of an old hen (chicken), my contributions were mostly restricted to making the tea.

I wish you every success but at 2 meters, it is going to be a very long job. ;)

Ian

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Jeff,
(With appologies to Simpson36 for hijacking his thread)

I think we have some common ground in this discussion. :) and I thank you for your considered reply.

I agree with you that the case should never be considered as a reference point to measure circuit volts - a hangover from the days of early radio and television where the chassis was used as a common signal return path. Much confusion exists with regard to using the terms ground and earth interchangeably. One even sees the earth symbol used in automotive applications!

Your references were very interesting but I do not see the statement that under no circumstances should the 0 volt line be connected to earth. My problem is your adament statement that connecting the low voltage DC 0 volt line to earth is "absolutely wrong." Your third reference Figs.7 and 9 actually show this connection. My guru in this aspect of circuit design was a M.I.E.E and as far as I was concerned his word was law.

Practical experience, designing and building switch mode power supplies, a touch sensitve electronic piano and power audio amplifiers, taught me the advantages of star earth points and earthing the 0 volt star point from several internal power sources, but the overriding point is safety, the transformed, rectified voltage should never be allowed to float up and this is avoided by connecting it to earth. Floating secondaries are allowable where the equipment is double insulated or, as one of your references stated, the circuit is designed so that finger contact is impossible, not really practical with the circuits we construct to drive our CNC machines.

Bernard Babani publish many books in the UK for the amateur circuit builder and one their most prolific authors is R.A.Penfold. (Never sure if he actually writes all of the books attributed to him!) in his "Power Supply Projects", without exception, all transformer DC 0 volt lines are connected to earth.

You are quite correct in emphasizing the importance of correct ciruit design and the isolation of control signals from noisy wires like VFD's and even microstepping power lines to stepper motors. Metal cases and braided tubular copper shielding for control wires should be considered essential to minimise these problems.

You raised some valid points and interesting references but we really could do with an Authority or Electrical Regulation that would give people reading this thread the confidence to build circuits that are safe. (Not me, I am only a impecunious machinist!)

Ian













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Jeff,

I wrote :-

"and you connect all 0 volt lines to a star point which is earthed," and I gave my reasons for doing this and regard this as an essential safety requirement.

You wrote :-
This is absolutely wrong (not to step on anybody's toes).

I am always interested in improving my knowledge, can you give your reasons for making this statement please? ( Even at my age I am still light on toes ;D, I might be able to keep them out of the way!)

Regards,

Ian


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Simpson36,

That's good news! Now the debugging starts. I usually  put a screen over the stepper driver wires and earth them only in the control box at the star earth point.  This is because the signals in the wires are relativly high power and high frequency and can cause odd induced voltages in other control wires.
Most DC SCR speed controls have their speed pots connected to the neutral line, so unless you have opto isolation in the control or the BOB you are going to have the problems that you had.(Put it down to the learning curve.)
By the way I like your simple 4th axis solution in the other thread.
I hope to clarify earthing the 0 volts star point with Jeff see my later post.

Regards,

Iaqn

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