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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 14, 2017, 12:12:51 AM »
Hi Mike. Emailed the company about the servo drives.  http://www.trminternational.com/
Not sure if that will work as a link,so you might need to google the name.  Very helpful. Plan on using two of their 20A drivers coupled to a csmio ipa.Long and the short of it is,that 99v is the maximum you can run as the overvoltage protection will shut the drive down at 101v. Being a local manufacturer does help.  Also had a chat to one of the old boys at work. He explained one of the quirks of our power supply grid. Here in the Uk we run 240v ,50hz. Most houses are single phase,the street lights are normally on a different phase,and industrial is three phase. I am pretty rural,down in the South East of England,not far from Rye and Hastings. Two of the phases when measured are over 240v and the third phase is quite along way down. At home it measures out at 248v. At the shop two phases measure out at 248v, with the third being down at 231v.  Because of this,the psu outputs about 104v which isn't any good for my needs.  Everyday a school day!

So,the plan is to get a 2kva toroidal transformer with two windings of 70v. Run the two windings in parallel to double up the amperage,use a 50A bridge rectifier ,a bleed resistor and a smoothing capacitor. This should result in a voltage between 94-98v, dependant on the capacitor used.  Psu will be able to supply 28A which will be more than enough.Not sure about re using the old capacitor,have been told to be wary of big electrolitic capacitors that have stood unused for many years.  Apparently they should be reformed with a lower voltage before reuse? So, I might go down the route of using a bank of new,smaller capacitors connected in parallel for the smoothing part of it.

Well, I haven't gotten very far. Still haven't decided whether or not to convert this lathe,but it is looking more likely as I work my way through some of the issues I already know about. Learning a lot,and I haven't even started

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 13, 2017, 12:47:48 AM »
Hi Mike
Thanks for your reply

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 12, 2017, 03:38:23 PM »
Not sold on that Gecko drive idea ,seeing as the SEM servo motors are rated at 140v and the Gecko drive can only handle 80v. Would need to sort out another power supply and then the servos are still running  roughly 40% down on power,so speed and torque would be down too.

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 12, 2017, 07:37:48 AM »
Not sold on that Gecko drive idea ,seeing as the SEM servo motors are rated at 140v and the Gecko drive can only handle 80v. Would need to sort out another power supply and then the servos are still running  roughly 40% down on power,so speed and torque would be down too.

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 11, 2017, 11:27:35 PM »
Hi Mike. No,I hadn't seen that,will look now

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 11, 2017, 01:04:28 AM »
Last ditch attempt this weekend to see if I can get this up and running with its original controller. Being based in the Uk, these Bridgeport Romi lathes are few and far between,, and parts availability pretty much zero. I am loathe to spend any money on spares for it from the states, given its reputation for being plagued with electrical gremlins from the start.  So, its decisions time.

It's basically a low mileage 16,5x40" engine lathe,fitted with ballscrews anda pc based controller from Bridgeport.140v dc servo motors,the one on the x axis showing signs of being rebuilt at some point,( rebuilding company's sticker embedded in a thick coat of paint).  Given it's unreliable status,and showing signs that the previous owner had thrown a fair amount of money at it,coupled to me not being able to test if the servo drivers and servo boards are any good,makes me think he best way forward would be to rip it all out and start again. Financially ,at this point,it would make sense to use a controller that would drive these existing servos,hence my thinking of using a csmio IPA.  If it turns out that the servo or drivers are shot, I need a cost effective solution.  I do like the look of the ac servos,they would make fir a very clean and tidy installation.Here in lies the problem...

Being totally new to this and having never done anything like this,how do I size the ac servos? I want to use servos,not stepper motors. These most likely will be sourced from China.Having read up a bit,there are calculators out there, but not knowing the weight of the saddle ,etc, they seem pretty useless

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO-IP/S or CSMIO-IP/A for a servo controlled router
« on: March 09, 2017, 08:38:19 AM »
I think it was this one...

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/New-Servo-motor-and-driver-2-39N-M-0-75KW-3000RPM-80ST-AC-Servo-Motor-80ST/314742_760392877.html?spm=2114.12010615.0.0.JnQTI9

Good supplier.
Thanks for the link Dave. You say they are analog and work with the IPA? I haven't managed to get my lathe running on the old controller, so was a bit wary going for an IPA, only because I want to use the existing brushes servos that I haven't managed to test. At least if they are shagged, or, if the servo drivers are shot, the ac servos would be an option.  Sorry for the thread hijack

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CS-Lab / Re: CSMIO-IP/S or CSMIO-IP/A for a servo controlled router
« on: March 08, 2017, 01:23:07 PM »
I did my bridgeport mill with an IP/A - a very nice robust unit.

I used AC servo's from China and they were all analogue 10-0-10v control.

Definitely go for AC servo - no power supplies to buy or build and a nice compact unit :)

Servo tuning is a difficult step but not impossible, the CSMIO comes with a basic tuning screen which is good.

What ac servos are they,if I may ask?  Looking at retrofitting a Bridgeport Romi lathe that has 140v brushed servos. Just not sure if it's a good idea to use the old brushed servos and servo drivers. Haven't made my mind up between Csmio ipa or ips.

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 07, 2017, 12:06:23 AM »
Will do. Thanks Mike .

Chaosengineering' s build thread is in "The General Mach Discussion", section,under the heading of ,"Novice to Mach3,may be asking too much??"

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CS-Lab / Re: Bridgeport Romi lathe retrofit with csmio ipa
« on: March 06, 2017, 01:31:13 AM »
Thanks Mike

I have a decent Fluke digital multimeter. Have a wiring diagram and have sussed out pretty much what would need to stay and what's redundant.  Whilst the wiring diagram isn't the greatest, it's a copy of a folded original, at least the fold isn't through the bit I would need to keep

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