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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: July 22, 2009, 09:03:28 AM »
Steve,

   I agree with what you have just stated. Thank you for the input. First I think I want to get new controller software into the machine before we mess with the back end of the machine.

   Why pins 8-13? I was told by Pacific Scientific to use pins 8,9,10,11,12, & 16. Believe it or not pins 8-10 are wired on the PC800 J2 pin connector BUT the wires dead end next to the ICM2900. They are simply cut. Obviously someone wanted to go another route but chose the simplest for some unknown reason. As they have achieved the lowest possible resolution that the machine is capable of. I'm told that by using 8-11 I can emulate an optical encoder. Providing around 1900ppr of resolution......with the Galil doubling that. Plus more accuracy and speed as well.

  We were actually wrong that the machine was running an early version of Camsoft. It was an educated guess based on screen shot comparisons. However since my first post we managed to hack the password and the machine is running a private label or privately designed controller software. It works but is very primitive to say the least.

   I have no comparisons between Mach and the newest release from Camsoft. Like the earlier posting from MOTU I don't seem to get any feedback on one vs the other. Like a real world comparison. Just rants on how kick butt one is vs the other. I tend to like less bias in my reviews of products. However when I ask for details it seems like all I hear are crickets. Even if the person supposedly has experience with both. I do know that Camsoft offers support if I run into problems. The old software gives us access to some of the machine perimeters but there are several files in the set up that we can not read or copy.

   We do have a wine styled tool changer rack. I like the idea of a rotary rack slaved to the X access and being able to change tools while the X moves but the price vs. complexity just does not pay off. Perhaps if my machine was running 8 hours a day 5 days a week there would be a gain in production but this is not the case. Spindle is a 10HP HSD  and the machine has a true 12' X 6' cutting area. The Y axis actually has 8 ' of travel and the X 14'. The Y is able to park the spindle to the left or right side of the spoil board completely. The X has 14'  of travel as the wine rack is located at approx 13' and the X axis has a park mode at 14' to allow the gantry to fully be out of the way for clearing the spoilboard or for set up of the next project.

   Yes, the current set up is using the resolver as a simple positioning device.

   How much more flexible is Mach over Camsoft? Camsoft actually does include a lot more than whats written on their website. They do have files, plug ins and so on available if needed. Do you have first hand experience with Camsoft as well?

Thank you once again! You have been a big help for this specific project. Both adding to our knowledge base and confirming many things we thought to be true.

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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: July 22, 2009, 12:58:22 AM »
Both Galil and Pacific Scientific are both top rate companies. You can call for support and get a tech guy or engineer that will work you through anything. No matter when you bought it!

I'm retrofitting a machine with an older controller.

I have Pacific Scientific PMA24C-10100-00 servos with resolvers of course. Imagine this the servo drives are Pacific Scientific PC800's.....they are the PC833-001-N to be more specific. The Galil is a DMC-1842 with an ICM-2900.

Everything works......well worked. Original computer has a few leaky caps and the touchscreen is just about shot. New PC and a 17" 3M touchscreen added. Plus a new enclosure for all the electronics.

A little confused on how our machine is set up. As on the J2 pin connector for the PC-800 we were hoping to see pins 9,10,11, 12 or 13,14 used. The drives can emulate an encoder signal. These pins would be used to do so.

However the only pins connected are 17,19,24,25,30,31,37,38, & 42. Confused on why the original engineer took this route.

In case you want to know what the pins are the codes are found here on page 2-10 

http://www.pacsci.com/support/documents/pc800/ma830.pdf

Thank you for any input.


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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: July 21, 2009, 10:57:00 PM »
I have PC drives and PC AC brushless servos....didn't think you could hook the reolvers up directly. The PC drives allow for several wiring varations though.

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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: July 21, 2009, 01:20:47 PM »
I was told that the Mach, Galil, Resolver combo would not work. I'm trying to find the source to post more info to help elaborate but can't find it at this moment.

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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: July 20, 2009, 10:31:26 PM »
What version of Camsoft were you using? How long ago was that? What do you like about Camsoft vs. Mach? I always hate hearing one is better than another with out hearing the details. What does your set up look like? Are you using Mach in an industrial setting or is it for private use? Were you the original owner of the Camsoft software?

I have heard people say they like one vs the other and the other vs that one but with little information to go with the opinion. The comparison of a Porsche to a Model T is perplexing. As I have heard close to the opposite as well yet little deatails to go with the metaphor.

I'd really like to know direct comparisons, Pros and Cons from a first persons point of view who has spent time with both products.

Thank you for any information.

I think I will have to use Camsoft as my Pacific Scientific PMA24C servos use resolvers and it looks like Mach will not support them. I find the Camsoft software to be a great value. As it seems they offer a lot of support, product details, and extensive manuals. Invaluable if you are in an industrial setting where time lost on a machine could mean thousands and even tens of thousands of dollars in lost time and product.

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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: June 26, 2009, 04:54:31 PM »
Believe it or not version 1. It is from 2001 and has never been upgraded.

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Galil / Re: Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: June 26, 2009, 01:39:10 AM »
Have you any experience with upgrading the firmware on the 1842?

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Galil / Galil HELP DMC-1842
« on: June 24, 2009, 09:25:56 PM »
Ahhhh the age old debate. Camsoft or Mach 3. We currently have a 3 axis 6'X12' router using a Galil DMC-1842 card. We are running a private labeled version of Camsoft but want to upgrade our machine.

Should we use the DMC-1842 with Mach 3 or scrap the card and use a different card all together? If so what card??? The next step up from the DMC-1842 is nearly twice the price.Thank you for any input.  ;D

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