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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 27, 2009, 06:04:04 PM »

Success,          I had a chance to try out the new version today, and although I only had time to cut two threads they both came out great.  I am using the P. Port, and I am not sure if anyone else had had success using the PP, but it worked great for me.  I cut a 1/2-13 in delrin, and a 1/4-20 in cheap alum, and both are beautifull.  Thanks to Art, Brian, and everyone else who had a part in finding, and fixing the problem.  If nothing else it will  make us all appreciate threading a little more than we would have otherwise.  I know I just stood in amazement watching while a thread was cut in a dozen passes just as I had hoped, and with no extra funny moves in between!  Thanks!!!

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 17, 2009, 11:22:56 AM »

Sure, I will wait for the fix from art, this is all for fun for me anyway, I did just have a thought though, Art, would a reduction of 50 rpm do it?  I am still curious about the box under turning Diag showing a percentage label on it.  As I have said before if I have a reduction of 20 RPM it says 20% on the box.  Is this just a label that the program doesn't even care about, or is it actually seeing it a a 20% reduction, if so I could see a 50rpm loss being seen as a 50% loss.  I am probably grasping at straws, but I just don't think that all of us could be experiencing an "actual" real world loss of 50% of our set RPM.  One of us would have noticed that by now as there is a big diffirence between 200 and 400 rpm even with a puny lathe like some of us have.  I am excited though as I bet that you are close to a solution!!

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 17, 2009, 11:01:57 AM »

Art, I am being pretty bold in kinda disagreeing with you since you are now doubt "the man", and I mean no offence, so let me appologize in advance, but there is absolutely no way that I am loosing 50% of my rpm.   The problem occurs for me with a much smaller loss of rpm as I have said before.  I feel very confident about this, but i will try to see if I can get time later today to test it one last time to make myself feel better about my standpoint.  If I am wrong I will be more than willing to admit it, but I am sure that I am not going from 400rpm down to 200 rpm while threading..........

Trevor

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 16, 2009, 09:21:05 PM »

Art, Yes that is exactly what I believe several of us are describing, I can say that for me the variation in spindle speed has to be over 10rpm.  The lathe diag screen says variation percentage, but I think that it is showing a variation in rpm, not a percentage, for example 400 rpm set point dipping to 380 rpm shows a 20% spindle speed error which is actually more like 5% I think.  Thanks

Trevor

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 16, 2009, 11:00:15 AM »

Art, are you doing some testing, or would you like one of us to do some testing for  you?  Is constant V something that I can switch off during threading, as I do recall I do have my config set to constant v, not exact stop, am I thinking of the same thing, or way off.  If you would like something tried out let us know and I am sure that one of us can do it within less than a day, and I am sure willing to try whatever you might suggest.  Thanks

Trevor

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 15, 2009, 03:23:56 PM »

Rich, Thanks for the research.  It is interesting just how little HP may be required to cut threads.  I guess that leads me to believe that what in fact may be more important is the torque required to deliver the mentioned HP at a relatively low, and very steady RPM.  My motor is rated at 1hp, but at 2500 RPM,much higher than the 5-600  that it is turning when threading.  Thanks again for the input

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 03, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »

Ok Thanks Art, I am glad that you are working on it!

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 03, 2009, 08:24:09 PM »

It has been a couple of days, is everyone out of Ideas, or just busy with life outside of CNC?

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 01, 2009, 07:53:30 PM »

Here is another related, but dangerously general question.  Just how much hp do I need to cut a 1/2-13 thread in 6061 at 400 rpm in lets say 20 passes or less.  Assuming that everthing else such as tool geometry/ rigidy and such are assumed to be ideal?  I am considering the purchase of a VFD and motor, so I would like some opinions.  Do I need 1hp, 2hp, 3-5hp?  Let me know as if I am going to buy one I would only like to do it once.  I realize that I have asked a question whose answer could be dependent on alot of variables, but some educated guesses, or better yet pieces of practical experience would make my descision easier.  Thanks.

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General Mach Discussion / Re: Problems threading on the lathe

« on: March 01, 2009, 07:27:44 PM »

 Art, can the problem be seen while running the code one line at a time, The simple answer is yes, but only if you do it just right.  I tried to run the exact same g32 routine that I have been working wit one Line at a time, and at first I thought the problem was not present.  I could it the single button, then the cycle start button over and over watching one move at a time.  I would manually change the spindle speed during the cutting pass, and at first I would wait a couple of seconds in between moves, and the problem did not appear.  Then I tried again this time clicking the mouse button over and over as quickly as I could again while varying the spindle speed, and to my suprise the problem appeared again.  I did this a few times since I found it quite interesting.  All of this was done while just cutting air, maybee I should try it while actually cutting?  Let us know if you want some other specific tests done, and I am sure that one of us can do it for you.  Thanks for the help.