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VB and the development of wizards / Re: key cutting

« on: December 04, 2010, 03:48:03 AM »

Dan, ok, 20 years of Locksmithing condensed into a couple of sentences... 

1st and easiest is to get the code from either the dealer or some other source.   The code is then converted using code software into the actual cuts in the key. eg. code may be R3428 cuts are 44387653.

2nd if no code is available you could pull out a lock (door lock) and decode the wafers of the lock (work out if their depths), then either cut a key straight from these numbers or decode the wafers you have and try to determine the correct code for the car.

Once you have the cuts you use the wizard to cut the key.


Ya-Nvr-No,
Standard house type keys can be done the same way, but the wizards are more for cutting to code.  eg. you have probably got a filing cabinet or letter box with a number stamped on it.  This no is a code no that can be converted into the cuts of the key.  Use a wizard to cut the key.
Yes you are right every type of lock/manufacturer has different spacing and depth for their keys.  The wizard for house type keys allows you to create and save a file for each different type of key.  You have to load the correct file to cut the specific type of key.
Same with the Milled type of car keys.  there is a wizard called "Key Profile Maker" that allows you to set the space and depth for each type of car.  Then it makes a code for the button.  It dosent quite get it right as the start and end of each key usually has to be altered for a specific key type.

Locksmiths cut ALOT of keys to code rather then to sample. for eg imagine a Master Key System in a school or hospital, etc.  Each key has to be cut to the exact code (cuts).  They cant be cut to a sample.

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: key cutting

« on: December 03, 2010, 07:23:48 PM »

Dan, I use it mainly for producing new keys when all keys have been lost.  So if you loose your key to your car you can use the wizard to cut a new key.   The only trick is you need to work out the code of the key.

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: key cutting

« on: December 02, 2010, 05:51:01 PM »

You can use it for both reproduction and producing new ones.

It has evolved a bit over the years.  I first made wizards using the probe to decode the key, work out the factory depths and reproduce an accurate key. Doing this would allow for wear in the key and an inaccurately duplicated key.  But using it in practice where time is money, It is much faster to visually decode the key(look at it and say the cuts are 3551276 eg and check it with code software if needed)

But the primary function is for it to cut to code or to tell it what the depths are and for it to cut a key to those depths.
There is some more info at our Brisbane Locksmith sitehttp://www.24hourlocksmith.com.au/ with some links to videos etc.

I use the probe mainly to align the key blank in the vice, using a macro.

ar

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VB and the development of wizards / key cutting

« on: December 02, 2010, 08:12:43 AM »

Anyone interested in cutting keys (key and lock type keys) here's a wizard for cutting them http://keycut.webs.com/.
Mainly for cutting them to code (originating) and mainly for milled type of keys, but I have a wizard for cylindrical(normal) type of keys too.
Also have made a wizard for making a Button code. It is called the 'profile maker'  you enter the key parameters and it produces the code to add to a button. The button produces the code to cut the key...
code is in the download section of above web site.

ar

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: Spindle Macro Question

« on: April 01, 2010, 06:54:09 PM »

Maybe use an Led to control it?

Use OEM code 821 -824  (Input 1 - 4 active LED)

eg. Set the pin as input 1
When input 1 is active LED 1 is On.

Trig = GetOEMLED(821)
While Trig <> 1
Wend


If you wanted to monitor it during a gcode operation maybe use BRAINS.  Set up Brains to monitor the LED.

AR

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: Is it possible to have an "Open File" box with the VB Script?

« on: April 01, 2010, 08:11:13 AM »

ok, more issues on the same subject.

Made the open file and save file combo box and all works well on desktop computer.
Moved code to laptop (eeepc) & the DIR command wont work.

for eg.

count=3
Dim x() As String
ReDim x(count)
x(0) = Dir( "c:\Windows\*" )
For i = 1 To count
x(i) = Dir
MsgBox x(i) '3 files from c:\Windows
Next i


This works fine on the desktop, but on laptop it wont return any value.  I have checked that the directory path is correct. Even reloaded Mach3. 

Could there be an issue with eeepc?  everything else works fine on it.

Thanks

Ar

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VB and the development of wizards / Re: Is it possible to have an "Open File" box with the VB Script?

« on: March 31, 2010, 08:38:07 AM »

Thanks ArcEye for reply.
The code you posted was exactly what i was looking for.
But I have tried for hours to get the return value of the box.  For some reason i keep getting characters returned that are the right length of the file name, but not correct letters?? Just jumbled characters.

In the end I used the Mach VB combo box and DIR and Open commands to get it to do what i needed. 

Thanks Again.

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VB and the development of wizards / Licencing a wizard

« on: March 27, 2010, 10:38:15 AM »

How would you go about licensing a wizard for Mach?  Similar to the NFS wizards? 

Is it possible to have a trial wizard which you could activate if it were purchased?

Anybody done this before?
 
Thanks for any replies...

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VB and the development of wizards / Is it possible to have an "Open File" box with the VB Script?

« on: March 27, 2010, 10:21:25 AM »

Hi,
If I wanted to open a text file with data in it to load into a wizard. (not a gcode file) Is it possible to have an "Open File" dialog box?

Problem is that I need to select the file to open from a list.  Not just a preset file.  Is there some sort of open file box?

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Works in progress / Re: Key cutting wizard

« on: May 20, 2009, 04:04:50 AM »

Rich.
Copying a key wasnt really what it is designed to do, although it will copy the key.
It cuts the key to code, using preset spacing and depths.
So this is what you would use if you had no key to copy from, or wanted a perfect original key.

I am using the key vice from a cheap Chinese key copying machine to hold the key on the Mill.