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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: spnar on October 18, 2008, 11:39:27 AM

Title: Diplay problems
Post by: spnar on October 18, 2008, 11:39:27 AM
Hi Guys

I am getting a " Displayfile reinitialization . Error report" when i post gcode for Lazy turn
Can anyone help as to the cause

Thanks

Spnar :'(
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: spnar on October 18, 2008, 11:43:07 AM
Sorry there that should have read when posting gcode to Mach turn

Spnar ???
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 18, 2008, 10:24:56 PM
Hi Spnar,

I assume this is happening when posting gcode out of lazycam turn directly into Mach Turn.
Can you post the gcode and lcam file and I'll see what happens on my end?
Never got an error report so can't explain it.
RICH
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: spnar on October 19, 2008, 03:05:45 AM
Hi Rich

Will do

Nice Mustang is thet yours ?

Spnar
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 07:11:56 AM
Yes, just one of the toys filling the drive driveway.
Post the fiiles as i am curious.
RICH
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: spnar on October 19, 2008, 01:59:32 PM
Hi Rich

Found the cause of the problem .
My PC going nuts and making my life more interesting.
Some system file must have gone crazy.
That's fixed and have started cutting some samples
I am posting photo of finished product and relevant files.
The photo shows a slightly modified version of the files attached.
Thanks

Spnar
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 04:26:59 PM
Spnar,
Must admit how easy that was using Lazcam now that it's done. ;)
BTW did you notice that you can go into tools "Scale Drawing" thus changing the units.
Happy you found what was wrong.
RICH
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: budman68 on October 19, 2008, 05:14:01 PM
Thought I'd try to load this and I get an error "J word given for arc in xz plane line 37"

Do I have a setting setup wrong somewhere?

Thanks,
Dave
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
Dave,
Yep and be carefull. Here are just a few.
1.add a G21 so your in metric units.
2.ports & pins > no check on reversed arcs, and radius mode
3.general config>distance mode & ij mode checked for absolute

Now this is important. I assumed that the file was cleaned up by Spnar.
When the file was loaded into Mach Turn i got errors, those goofy circles, and couldn't even see it on my screen.
I changed the above settings and "magic", everything is clean and no errors. ( there is one liine which needs to be changed from an XZ move to individual moves).

Dinner is served, will get back in an hour .
RICH




Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: budman68 on October 19, 2008, 07:08:51 PM
Ok, thanks as always, Rich. I went through with the settings you showed and had "some" success. I'm still coming up with the cropcircles but at least the profile is there :D

Dave
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 07:46:10 PM
I think your in diameter mode
RICH
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: budman68 on October 19, 2008, 08:02:52 PM
I changed it and you're correct as it clears it up.

Am I not allowed to be in diameter mode? So now is this because it was the way it was drawn ?

I'm not understanding this at all. :-[

Dave
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: budman68 on October 19, 2008, 08:29:30 PM
All fixed  :)

You can spot my new exit line for the x/z that needed to be fixed as well ;)

I still have no idea what I'm doing. I'm going to have to seriously sit down for some time with this to really try to understand what it is I'm doing.

Dave

Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 08:40:18 PM
Hi all,
So here is my concern with opening the file in MachTurn. I think this is a good example of "state of confusion".

You don't know how that file was created ie; mm / inches?, diameter / radius?, incremental IJ / absolute ( Lazycam posting setting GCODE FILE OPTIONS) , what side is the toolpost ( reversed arc's in front tool post ), didn't close the file and load it back in after changing a setting in Mach ( sometimes it seems like that changed setting didn't take place), possible Distance Mode & IJ Mode combination of settings in MACH ( you'll get errors ), lathe object dosn't appear "exactly" as you would expect ( we know it may not be exact, but then suppose the tool definition in lazycam wouldn't allow for full cutting of the profile so the you get a play on the lathe object in the screen).

Now it's true that the person generating the turn part would pick up some of these. But if say a newbie, and starts
to play with code (hmm......good grief.....). "State of confusion".

I quess i don't have an answer to what is reflected by the above other then experience.
Maybe some info like "here's what can wrong"  in the manual would be worth doing.

Now when you leave Mach Turn after fooling and restart days later .......how's your memory on the settings?
Take a look at the recent ABNORMAL CONDITION THREAD.

May be getting of thread here, Spnar is forgiving  ;D
RICH

 
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: RICH on October 19, 2008, 09:32:08 PM
Dave,
Good question about the turning mode.
I get the cropcircles if it's brought in when configured for diameter mode.
If it's created using radius then you need to use radius mode.
You may be able to scale it Lazcam using the SCALING tool before posting the gcode, but ,
with out some remark in the code it can get confusing real quick.

Look at page 5-9 in the MACH III Turn Manual it talks about the modes. BTW you really can in trouble quickly as some programs only generate code in one mode or the other.

Here is my screen shot of the file in mach turn. Note where the arrows are pointing, which was a concern
in my previoius post. Don't know why its not like yours. I didn't change the xz move.
RICH
Title: Re: Diplay problems
Post by: spnar on October 20, 2008, 12:49:09 AM
Hi guys

I have been thou all of that plus a female computer with a
mind of it's own.
The J word problem is solved just as RICH described and the circle stuff
has to do with the tool parameter setting in Lazycam.
If you compare the profile you have with the actual DXF file it has
a lot of detail missing. I am assuming the tool profile and or
penetration are not right.

Spnar