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G-Code, CAD, and CAM => LazyCam (Beta) => Topic started by: jlautomatio on June 17, 2006, 09:57:44 AM
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Question
with ver 1 no problem
with vewr 2.53
i am using milling and wiht setup in lazycam
when the milling bit go down it ok but when it go up the z move in same time with x an y this is a problem and do the have a way to set up all the layer control an keep for next dxt
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There is a new rev coming out later this weekend :)
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hi Brian
in any diffren using lazy cam with mach 3 ver 1.90.041 and ver 1.90.051
thank you
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It should be all fixed :)
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i try mach3 ver 1.90.052 with lazycam ver 2.53
it look ok but one think is buy me is every time i use lazycam we have to enter feed rate plunge rate spindle
rapid hight for each layer and so it mush have one way to keep the info for outside
inside 1 inside 2 inside 3 and so
thank you
jacques lambert
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It should keep the data that you entered the last time you used the layer.. I will look to see if it is not updating
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you should have place to download lazycam i saw there is ver 2.54 i download last ver mach and it not inside so we could do some test
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hi test on
lazycam 2.54 need info
G4 p0.0000 where we do setup for time
z plunge rare missing
and give error f word missing
(File j2 )
(File Posted in Mill Mode)
(Sunday, June 25, 2006)
G90G80G40 G90.1
G0 Z10.0000
X17.0625 Y0.0000
M3 S0
Z0.0000
G4 P0.0000
G1 X0.0000 F5000.00
Y96.4750
G2 X26.9875 Y123.4625 I26.9875 J96.4750
G1 X211.1375
G2 X238.1250 Y96.4750 I211.1375 J96.4750
G1 Y0.0000
X221.0625
G0 Z10.0000
X54.7625 Y12.0000
Z0.0000
G4 P0.0000
G1 Y60.6000
G2 X73.8125 Y79.6500 I73.8125 J60.6000
G1 X164.3125
G2 X183.3625 Y60.6000 I164.3125 J60.6000
G1 Y12.0000
G0 Z10.0000
M5 M9
X0.0 Y0.0
G40G80M30
thank you
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sorry about that it is fix and will be out latter today if I can get Art to upload it again.
Thank you
Brian
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mach 3 ver 1.090.053
lazycam ver 2.54
mach3 error
f word with inverse time arc move on line number #11
no rate plunger on z
is it some think on my side or
N1 (File j2 )
N2 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N3 (Monday, June 26, 2006)
N4 G90G80G40 G90.1
N5 M6 T2
N6 G43 H2
N7 G0 Z10.0000
N8 X54.7625 Y12.0000
N9 M3 S1000
N10 Z0.0000
N11 G1 Y60.6000 F5000.00
N12 G2 X73.8125 Y79.6500 I73.8125 J60.6000
N13 G1 X164.3125
N14 G2 X183.3625 Y60.6000 I164.3125 J60.6000
N15 G1 Y12.0000
N16 M6 T1
N17 G43 H1
N18 G0 Z10.0000
N19 X17.0625 Y0.0000
N20 Z0.0000
N21 G1 X0.0000
N22 Y96.4750
N23 G2 X26.9875 Y123.4625 I26.9875 J96.4750
N24 G1 X211.1375
N25 G2 X238.1250 Y96.4750 I211.1375 J96.4750
N26 G1 Y0.0000
N27 X221.0625
N28 G0 Z10.0000
N29 M5 M9
N30 X0.0 Y0.0
N31 G40G80M30
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The file runs here... Could you check to see that you are not in inverse time mode (G93) ? You should be in G94 UPM mode
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Hi, Brian
The code changes you made work great.
Thank's Chip
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It is about time :) I have been adding code for an OEM so there were many changes in LCAM.... I was working all the bugs out and now it is time to start back on the offset path :o That is not as much fun as I had hoped it would be ;) I have all the line to line code done! so LCAM can take a path that is all lines and offset the path and trim all the lines to the right length... This is all so the first part to get pocketing done... I need more TIME!!!!
Thank you (Just wanted to tell you what I was working on next)
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where we change g93 to g94 in settup
thank you
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ok now it working i put in pre-amble to code output
G94 an it change the mode on mach3 this is ok
one more think
if i load dxf file and keep layer info. it work ok but i have to enter all the info for layer control
like feed plunger hight ext. take time to enter
if i load dxf and ignore layer inf. the layer control all the info are there if i put outside off
in the inside if i have dot it show the dot and if i generate the gcode all the dot it say Radius to end of arc differ from radius to start on line number #17
N1 (File cut22 )
N2 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N3 (Wednesday, June 28, 2006)
N4 G90G80G40G94 G90.1
N5 G0 Z10.0000
N6 X37.0742 Y19.0897
N7 M3
N8 Z9.5000
N9 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N10 G0G98 Z10.0000
N11 G81 X37.0742 Y19.0897 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F500.00
N12 G0 X197.8373 Y25.6922
N13 Z9.5000
N14 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N15 G80
N16 X189.7125 F500.00
N17 Y74.2922
N18 G3 X170.6625 Y93.3422 I170.6625 J74.2922
N19 G1 X67.4625
N20 G3 X48.4125 Y74.2922 I67.4625 J74.2922
N21 G1 Y25.6922
N22 X40.2878
N23 G0 Z10.0000
N24 X203.8787 Y21.1578
N25 Z9.5000
N26 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N27 G98 Z10.0000
N28 G81 X203.8787 Y21.1578 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F500.00
N29 G0 X221.0625 Y0.0000
N30 Z9.5000
N31 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N32 G80
N33 Y13.6922 F500.00
N34 X238.1250
N35 Y110.1672
N36 G3 X211.1375 Y137.1547 I211.1375 J110.1672
N37 G1 X26.9875 Y137.1547
N38 G3 X0.0000 Y110.1672 I26.9875 J110.1672
N39 G1 Y13.6922
N40 X17.0625 Y13.6922
N41 X17.0625 Y0.0000
N42 G0 Z10.0000
N43 M5 M9
N44 X0.0 Y0.0
N45 G40G80M30
thank you
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There is an error that I can't seem to get to happen here.. I can see the problem in the Gcode file I just don't know how you are getting it to do it :(
I will look at it again
Thank you
Brian
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I found it and it is now fixed :)
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if it fix send to me
thank you
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well done
good work
one think funny
check line n8 z go down
n9 go up
n10 go down again
it make the hole 2 times
same think 21 22 23
1 (File cut22 )
N2 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N3 (Wednesday, June 28, 2006)
N4 G90G40G80G94 G91.1
N5 G0 Z10.0000
N6 X37.0742 Y19.0897
N7 M3
N8 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N9 G0 G98 Z10.0000
N10 G81 X37.0742 Y19.0897 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F500.00
N11 G80
N12 G0 X189.7125 Y25.6922
N13 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N14 Y74.2922 F500.00
N15 G3 X170.6625 Y93.3422 I-19.0500 J0.0000
N16 G1 X67.4625
N17 G3 X48.4125 Y74.2922 I-0.0000 J-19.0500
N18 G1 Y25.6922
N19 G0 Z10.0000
N20 X203.8787 Y21.1578
N21 G1 Z0.0000 F300.00
N22 G98 Z10.0000
N23 G81 X203.8787 Y21.1578 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F500.00
N24 G80
N25 G0 Z10.0000
N26 M5 M9
N27 X0.0 Y0.0
N28 G40M30G80
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Hi Brian
did you find solution for the dot the reason it making 2 time the hole
thank you
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I will have a look at it... Didn't know it was doing that!
Thanks Brian
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any new developement on lazycam last problem
thank
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It is fixed for the next rev... :)
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if it fix send to me
thank you
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There will be a release out today :) I just sent it to Art...
Thanks
Brian
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Hi, Brian
Would / could you please comment on the changes you've made from one rev. to another.
I now are busy, maybe (LasyCam Revision Note's) just short comment's.
Thank's Chip
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The Gcode output is fixed so it will not drill the first hole two times in the first drill cycle.
The other thing that I added is rotoation :) you can rotate the part X amount of degrees and it will re calculate the stock size that you need to get the part :)
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problem 2.56
check
at the beagening line n5 it shoul put z to 10 and afetr move x an y break the tool on z
line 16 same think after finish cutting the part z sould be up beafore x an y move
on ver 2.55 it was ok only the 2 time hole was the problem
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N2 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N3 (Thursday, July 06, 2006)
N4 G90G40G80 G91.1
N5 G0 X37.0742 Y5.3976 Z10.0000
N6 G0 G98 Z10.0000
N7 G81 X37.0742 Y5.3976 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F3000.00
N8 G80
N9 G0 X189.7125 Y12.0000
N10 G1 Z0.0000 F1000.00
N11 Y60.6000 F3000.00
N12 G3 X170.6625 Y79.6500 I-19.0500 J0.0000
N13 G1 X67.4625
N14 G3 X48.4125 Y60.6000 I-0.0000 J-19.0500
N15 G1 Y12.0000
N16 G0 X203.8787 Y7.4656 Z10.0000
N17 G98 Z10.0000
N18 G81 X203.8787 Y7.4656 Z0.0000 R10.0000 F3000.00
N19 G80
N20 G0 Z10.0000
N21 M5 M9
N22 X0.0 Y0.0
N23 G40M30G80
tahak you
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Looking into it :)
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find any solution
jacques
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It is fixed and will be out with the next Mach3 release... I could put it on the ftp server if you like
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It is on the FTP server ;D
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it look better
one more think
line n8
line n20
the speed z go trow it sould be f1000 like line 11
on line n8 n20 the r12.0000 where this is come from it look like from rapid hight
1 (File cut232 )
N2 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N3 (Sunday, July 09, 2006)
N4 G90G40G80 G91.1
N5 G0 Z12.0000
N6 X37.0742 Y5.3976
N7 G0 G98 Z12.0000
N8 G81 X37.0742 Y5.3976 Z0.0000 R12.0000 F3000.00
N9 G80
N10 G0 X189.7125 Y12.0000
N11 G1 Z0.0000 F1000.00
N12 Y60.6000 F3000.00
N13 G3 X170.6625 Y79.6500 I-19.0500 J0.0000
N14 G1 X67.4625
N15 G3 X48.4125 Y60.6000 I-0.0000 J-19.0500
N16 G1 Y12.0000
N17 G0 Z12.0000
N18 X203.8787 Y7.4656
N19 G98 Z12.0000
N20 G81 X203.8787 Y7.4656 Z0.0000 R12.0000 F3000.00
N21 G80
N22 G0 Z12.0000
N23 M5 M9
N24 X0.0 Y0.0
N25 G40M30G80
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let me know when you put on ftp server it important the i made was on last download from ftp
thank you
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let me know when you put on ftp server it important
the last nc file was made on last download from ftp
thank you
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I don't see a problem with the Gcode file... If you would like the feedrate changed, you can do that by clicking on the chain and changing it on right hand side. The R is at the rapid hight .. Did you want it at some other height?
Thanks
Brian
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i anderstand your point but i think when the z axe go down it should be going down at the plunge rate set up to reach z0.00
it could be change on chain but we have to enter every time an if we forget z go down to fast
thank you
jacques
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All Z- moves are done at a feedrate. I still can't see the trouble even after test running it (it was a late night).
Thanks
Brian
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the last lazycam is ok
could you put option for milling machine when we use drill g81 z will be plunge rate speed
jacques
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okay, I will it for the next release
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it will be very nice
soon it ready let me know
thank you
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Hi, Brian
Thing's are getting pretty nice hear with LaxyCam. Could you put on your list to add to Plasma, Dot/Point/G81 Function.
It would also be nice to have a default setting's for Layer Control Window to save, Startup Value's across the board and add a (None) Option to Leadin Type box.
On a liter note, I have several Compact 5's It's a nice little lathe.
The tool changer's default's with rev. lower voltage to hold in last change pos. when selected it times a move to just beyond next tool pos. and rev. lower voltage to lock.
It's really no deferent than relying on stepper's to move with no feedback, It's a little slow but automatic work's nice.
Thank's Chip
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any idea when the new update with my modification
thank
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I think I is done... I just checked the code and the output uses the FeedCut :
Block.Format("G%.d X%.4f Y%.4f Z%.4f R%.4f F%.2f",Cycle,ent->startx,ent->starty,Depth,RapidHeight,FeedCut);
Thanks
Brian
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i think is not i chech and the one i donwload is 2.56 ver
thank you
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Block.Format("G%.d X%.4f Y%.4f Z%.4f R%.4f F%.2f",Cycle,ent->startx,ent->starty,Depth,RapidHeight,FeedCut);
feedcut i ask for milling when we use g81 feed cut will be plunger rate
in lazycam
in layer control the set up i made was
feedrate 3000
plunger was 1000
---------N11 G1 Z0.0000 F1000.00
---------N20 G81 X203.8787 Y7.4656 Z0.0000 R12.0000 F3000.00
the reason i ask this i cut plastic using the same router 1/8 bit
the feed to cut the part is good at 3000
but when the z axe go trow the plastif it as to be 1000 to make nice job
in the dxf file we will have is lot of drill hole and line curve etch.
tell me if it could be done it will be very nice to have done
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I was thinking the wrong one ;D It is now as follows:
Block.Format("G%.d X%.4f Y%.4f Z%.4f R%.4f F%.2f",Cycle,ent->startx,ent->starty,Depth,RapidHeight,FeedPlunge);
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i just download mach 1.90.64
and lazycam is ver 2.56
any mistaque or
thank you
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I will uplaod it to the FTP server later tonight
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i when to ftp tis morning 7 am and still ver 2.56
jacques
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Darn I knew there was somthing that I didn't do... I think it is time to start a new list ???
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so let me know when it will be there
thank you
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Just uploaded it...
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yes yes yes yes sir
thank you
i will contact you next week
good job
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Hi, Brian
Congratulations, hope all is well, change the any chance to when thing's settle down.
Any chance this could get fixed in LC and posted to FTP site.
Plasma post. We useley set the Pierce Hight to 0 and Initial Hight to 0 In thye code below the M3's after line N155, N170, N185, N200 and N215 are missing.
If the Pierce Hight and Initial Hight are at default values I think there is an extra G4 P1.000 generated.
Pierce Hight and Initial Hight=0
N5 (File test55Dotpolyline )
N10 (File Posted in Plasma Mode)
N15 (Friday, July 14, 2006)
N20 G90 G80 G40 G91.1
N25 G0 X0.0000 Y0.5020 Z0.0000
N30 M3
N35 G4 P1.0000
N40 G1 Y1.0040 F22.00
N45 X1.0000
N50 Y0.0000
N55 X0.0000
N60 Y0.5020
N65 G4 P1.0000
N70 M5
N75 G0 X1.6996 Y1.6058
N80 M3
N85 G4 P1.0000
N90 G2 X2.5020 Y2.0080 I0.3004 J0.4022
N95 X1.6996 Y1.6058 I-0.5020 J0.0000
N100 G4 P1.0000
N105 M5
N110 G0 X3.0000 Y1.0040
N115 M3
N120 G4 P1.0000
N125 G1 X4.0000 Y2.0080
N130 Y0.0000
N135 X2.0000
N140 X3.0000 Y1.0040
N145 G4 P1.0000
N150 M5
N155 G0 X3.0000 Y1.2500
M3------------------------------------------------------------------
N160 G4 P1.0000
N165 M5
N170 X3.7500 Y2.0000
M3------------------------------------------------------------------
N175 G4 P1.0000
N180 M5
N185 Y2.7500
M3-------------------------------------------------------------------
N190 G4 P1.0000
N195 M5
N200 X0.2500
M3--------------------------------------------------------------------
N205 G4 P1.0000
N210 M5
N215 Y1.5000
M3--------------------------------------------------------------------
N220 G4 P1.0000
N225 M5
N230 X4.0000 Y2.2500
N235 M3
N240 G4 P1.0000
N245 G1 Y2.7500
N250 G3 X3.7500 Y3.0000 I-0.2500 J0.0000
N255 G1 X0.2500
N260 G3 X0.0000 Y2.7500 I-0.0000 J-0.2500
N265 G1 Y1.5000
N270 G3 X0.2500 Y1.2500 I0.2500 J-0.0000
N275 G1 X2.7500
N280 G4 P1.0000
N285 M5
N290 G0 Z0.0000
N295 M5 M9
N300 X0.0 Y0.0
N305 G40 G80
M30
Pierce Hight and Initial Hight set to default values.
I don't now which G4 should be removed probley the first one as I havent used it with a plasma cutter. Mabey It's proper just dosen't make sence to me ?, and shouldent there be a Z move from Pierce Hight to Initial Hight. ?
N5 (File test55Dotpolyline )
N10 (File Posted in Plasma Mode)
N15 (Friday, July 14, 2006)
N20 G90 G80 G40 G91.1
N25 G0 X0.0000 Y0.5020 Z0.0000
N30 M3
N35 G4 P1.0000
N40 G1 Z0.1500 F2.00
N45 Y1.0040 F22.00
N50 X1.0000
N55 Y0.0000
N60 X0.0000
N65 Y0.5020
N70 G4 P1.0000
N75 M5
N80 G0 X1.6996 Y1.6058 Z0.0000
N85 M3
N90 G4 P1.0000
N95 G1 Z0.1500 F2.00
N100 G2 X2.5020 Y2.0080 I0.3004 J0.4022 F22.00
N105 X1.6996 Y1.6058 I-0.5020 J0.0000
N110 G4 P1.0000
N115 M5
N120 G0 X3.0000 Y1.0040 Z0.0000
N125 M3
N130 G4 P1.0000
N135 G1 Z0.1500 F2.00
N140 X4.0000 Y2.0080 F22.00
N145 Y0.0000
N150 X2.0000
N155 X3.0000 Y1.0040
N160 G4 P1.0000
N165 M5
N170 G0 Z0.0000
N175 X3.0000 Y1.2500
N180 M3
N185 G4 P1.0000
N190 G1 Z0.1500 F2.00
N195 G4 P1.0000
N200 M5
N205 G0 Z0.0000
N210 X3.7500 Y2.0000
N215 M3
N220 G4 P1.0000-------------------------------------------------------------
N225 G1 Z0.1500
N230 G4 P1.0000------------------------------------------------------------
N235 M5
N240 G0 Z0.0000
N245 Y2.7500
N250 M3
N255 G4 P1.0000---------------------------------------------------------------
N260 G1 Z0.1500
N265 G4 P1.0000---------------------------------------------------------------
N270 M5
N275 G0 Z0.0000
N280 X0.2500
N285 M3
N290 G4 P1.0000----------------------------------------------------------------
N295 G1 Z0.1500
N300 G4 P1.0000----------------------------------------------------------------
N305 M5
N310 G0 Z0.0000
N315 Y1.5000
N320 M3
N325 G4 P1.0000-----------------------------------------------------------------
N330 G1 Z0.1500
N335 G4 P1.0000----------------------------------------------------------------
N340 M5
N345 G0 X4.0000 Y2.2500 Z0.0000
N350 M3
N355 G4 P1.0000
N360 G1 Z0.1500
N365 Y2.7500 F22.00
N370 G3 X3.7500 Y3.0000 I-0.2500 J0.0000
N375 G1 X0.2500
N380 G3 X0.0000 Y2.7500 I-0.0000 J-0.2500
N385 G1 Y1.5000
N390 G3 X0.2500 Y1.2500 I0.2500 J-0.0000
N395 G1 X2.7500
N400 G4 P1.0000
N405 M5
N410 G0 Z0.0000
N415 M5 M9
N420 X0.0 Y0.0
N425 G40 G80
M30
Thank's Chip
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Chip, If there is time today I will have a look at it :)
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Hi, Brian
Any chance on fixing the dot/plasma post problem, my last post hear.
Thank's Chip
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Nope :( The new baby has been taking my time...
It is on the list :)
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Hi, Brian and All
Hear's the DXF for my prev. post test55Dotpolyline.DXF.
The second one is Test55Dot. DXF is there a way to have LC sort with a close enough feature to consider the lines and arcs as one group without
joineing them. I think there start and stops are the same.
Thank's Chip
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Lcam looks to see that the ends are with in about .0001 ... I can't set this any higher..
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Brian, check out Mytmill by acumotion. Not nearly as good as your LZ but a few interesting features in the G code output. One option allowes the user to select allowed mismatch in line ending for "blending" . Another is segmenting toolpaths in the output with labels to improve understanding. LZ is much better already but MyTmill has a few neat feature to look at.
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Thank you :)
I am about to redo the output class in Lcam.. This is a big job and will make it so I can do some cool work with the Gcode that is coming out. I am going to add in tangential knife controle to Lcam! This will also make it simpler for me to make OEM versions of the software.. There is interest in having Lcam do foam cutting as well as lathe. So I think it is time to add the tools to output the code a bit better :)
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lazy cam ver 2.62
mill make error
N1 (File F02 LS )
N2 (Default Mill Post)
N3 (File Posted in Mill Mode)
N4 (Monday, August 21, 2006)
N5 G90G40G80 G91.1
N6 G0 Z10.0000
N7 X56.3495 Y12.7498
N8 Z8.0001
=======================
N9 [{SPINDLE}] it should be N9 M3 S1000
=======================
N10 G1 Z0.0000 F350.00
N11 Y60.6000 F500.00
thank you
Jacques
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Hi, Jacques
Go to the FTP site download Ver. 2.625 there are some changes to turn on Spindle is [{SPINDLEON}] it posts S-speed's.
Hope this helps, Chip
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Sorry about that ;D I was working on the code and didn't setup the mill post.. .625 should work for you and if you guys are happy I will have it added to the download of Mach3
Thanks
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Hi, Brian
Ran the ver. 2.625 Plasma Example made several changes noted in file below.
Eliminates some dup. Z Gcode generation, let me now what you think.
Thank's Chip
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Very Good! You are going to have this running the water jet in no time!
Keep up the good work
Brian
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Hi, Brian
The waterjet has been up and running just needed the Peirce / dot function this new LC seam's great.
Is there a list of post option's G Mode and so-on that can be used in the post's.
Thank's Chip
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There is a doc in the zip file on the web... IF you need more info then that please tell me and I will work on writing it :)