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Title: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 09, 2006, 06:36:37 PM
Hi all,

Finally after a short delay the Silver Blue Screenset for Mach3Turn is ready for test.

There has been no attempt to add extra functions to these screens. They have been done purely by request following the Mill screens we released.

Credit to the original author of the screenset interface. We have only put a wrapper around it. (We don't have lathes so cannot even test it fully !)

The DarkBlue screenset will follow shortly once I manage to bribe Mr Bean into it. :)

Please report any bugs etc but note that we don't intend to add new features.

The screenshots below give you a taster.

Again, full credit to Beano on his photoshop skills. We hope you like the look.


Team InsomniaX


Screenset can be download from :-

http://www.cnc-builder.co.uk/insomniax/ :)
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 09, 2006, 06:38:39 PM
Last 3.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: mrbean on May 09, 2006, 06:43:50 PM
Just popping in to subscribe to the new thread.

I'll get a blue version done in the next day or so.  Busy, busy, busy....

Thanks for any feedback regarding anything not working.

Beano...
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: Brian Barker on May 09, 2006, 11:17:21 PM
Good work!
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: ynneb on May 09, 2006, 11:19:20 PM
Fantastic work guys. You two are a real power team. Keep up the fantastic work.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: DAlgie on May 10, 2006, 01:21:21 AM
Very nice screenset. I ran it tonight, only thing I noticed so far is the part graphic in the 'Cycle' screen does not render properly, seems to in all the other screens though. I ran one program and it does everything the old screen did before as far as buttons, etc. Really is a nice upgrade from the original display. Thanks again to you guys!
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: marcel beaudry on May 10, 2006, 01:32:06 PM
finally a lathe screen . very well made, eye popping ,when it's fully tested i would like it to be my screen . you realy know how to make screens . fantastic work bravo to the team .
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 10, 2006, 03:21:38 PM
Thanks for the positive feedback chaps. It makes it all worthwhile.

As mentioned we are 'virgins' at MachTurn and really no very little. Saying that I don't know that much about MachMill !

From the tests here all screens are rendering correctly. Or at least I think they are.

Dalgie, if you can grab a screenshot of the problem we will try and fix it. Can you check the problem doesn't exist with the standard set also as in theory there should be no difference in the rendering.

Beano's being getting some new toys to play with. DivX player, New graphics card, G.P.S..... The list goes on. I might have to get the whip cracked on the Blue Release!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: mrbean on May 10, 2006, 05:27:23 PM


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Beano's being getting some new toys to play with. DivX player, New graphics card, G.P.S..... The list goes on. I might have to get the whip cracked on the Blue Release!


The blue set's all done Mr Santini.  Just waiting for you to login and sync your PC to pick up the files and wrap them in an installer.
Come on.....  Put some effort in.   ;D

Still waiting on more toys turning up, but having fun with the one's I got.   ;)

I'm glad some of you like the screenset we've done.  I hope you find it useful.

Cheers.
MrBean.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 10, 2006, 07:07:45 PM
Logged in, Synced up and ready for action.....

Well after more testing it seems like there is some strange rendering of the toolpath at times but from what we see it is common to the original supplied set and the silver blue set.

There's not a lot we can do on this apart from bring it to Art's attention. It's probably wiser for someone who knows the Turn module better to explain the problem.

While doing the testing Beano noticed that I had missed the skins on the DRO's for the Diagnostics and Toolpath screens. So...

The setup installer file has been updated to correct this on the InsomniaX download page if you want to re-download and get the fixed version.

Cheers...
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: DAlgie on May 10, 2006, 10:28:10 PM
I ran the silverblue screenset tonight again, never got the strange render on the cycle screen again, all was well. Like you just posted, it is a random thing somehow. One thing, the flyout jog screen that pops up on the right side of the screen when you hit shift, it has no background at all, just black, but you don't really use it that much for a lathe, well, at least i haven't used it that much yet....! The whole screen is so nice, I never seem to get tired of looking at it, i'll never be able to go back to a Fanuc screen ever again, even the newest colour one on our new $150k 5 axis lathe, Fanuc should be so lucky!
                        Dave.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 12, 2006, 05:01:36 AM
Oh Oh.....

Dave, I'm afraid our lack of knowledge with the Turn module is now clearly obvious !

We totally forgot about the MPG flyout screen. Well totally forgot it existed :)

Beano is working a 'suicide' shift this weekend (Sounds Nasty !) so I doubt if we will get the MPG screen completed but we will ASAP.

If you see any other weirdo's just shout. The Toolpath rendering is a strange one.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on May 14, 2006, 05:45:22 PM
A quicky.....

Beano survived his 'Suicide' shift but is sounding real strange on MSN........

So the Main installer file has been updated to inlclude the new MPG screen.

(You will need to re-download the installer again)

Sorry about that.... Totally amateurs with the Lathe stuff.

Screenshot attached......

Any bugs or errors please shout up.....
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: ART on June 29, 2006, 10:14:11 AM
Hi Guys:
 
  These screens look amazing. I really like the fact that they duplicate the main Mach3 turn screens almost to a tee..
(The Tab screen is amazing..). Have these been used by anyone as yet to verify functionallity? Im thinking this woudl make a great
general release screen for Turn. A much needed facelift for the turn section.

  Is there anythign I can help with in terms of any problems that may exist in them? Im a bit embarassed that I hadnt seen them as yet,
if it wernt for Benny pointing them out to me I may have missed them for awhile. I dont get here too oftend, Bennt and Brian keep this
forum running so msooth I rarely get my head out of the yahoo group and the code.

 At any rate, first rate screens. I think th eonly question is, do they function well engouh for a general release? Im thinking theyd be real popular,
though I may need to shrink their size of the grpahics a bit to keep the releasepackage from etting bloated..

Regards,
Art
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: mrbean on June 29, 2006, 04:43:31 PM
Hi Art.  Neither Santini or myself have a lathe, so cannot test the functionality of the screens ourselves.
We've been relying on others to "shout" if they've had any issues.
So far nothing's come to light that we could pin down to the screenset.
There have been around 100 downloads.  So far no complaints.

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I think the only question is, do they function well engouh for a general release?

Hmmmm.  Suck it and see I guess.

We'd love to be able to thouroughly test the screenset, but with no lathe it's not so easy.
How about putting the screenset on the main Mach website as an optional download,
with a screen shot maybe, so people can see roughly what they're going to get.

It's free.  If peolple don't get on with it, they can use the original .set
Nothing lost really.

It's really cool to think you like our screens enough to want to include them in the release package.
I'm sure I speak for both of us when I say, we'd be honoured.

Cheers.
MrBean.

Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: marcel beaudry on June 29, 2006, 04:49:54 PM
yes Art the  the silver one is my main screen i have been using it since it was made i did not try all the functions but they sure look good they are a little jagged on the radius but work just fine thank you again guy's  when i use the turning wizzard they look a little dull       (not being modified)
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: ART on June 29, 2006, 05:33:58 PM
Thanks Guys. I'll give it a good run before switching things over, but I really think this screen is heads and shoulders above all other Lathe work Ive seen.
Very impressive. Look for your names in the Matrix help/about in the next version.. Anythign I can do, just yell..

Regards,
Art
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: DAlgie on June 29, 2006, 06:18:18 PM
I've tested this screen a bit, I'm not really ready to do production runs, but the only thing I can find is that, on the Jog flyout screen, the direction arrows seem to be for a mill setup. lathes are typically in X and Z axis, and the jog arrows don't follow along with that here. Z negative should be travelling left, towards the chuck, and X positive should be towards you, away from the centerline. Other than that, all thumbs up!
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on July 07, 2006, 07:58:35 PM
:)

After some time away It's great to see movements on the screenset front.

Art, seeing our names in the About box in Mach makes it all worthwhile ! Thanks very much.

(On a seperate note, is the code for that About box available on the net or is it something you wrote. It's impressive. I'm on the hunt for something similar)

Thanks again.....

The sun's out in the UK at the moment so not much p.c activity !
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: ART on July 07, 2006, 09:14:21 PM
Hi Santiniuk:

  The code is public domain. Do a search for "Matrix C++ class" . If you cant find it yell, and Ill cull it out and send it to you..

Thanks
Art
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on July 08, 2006, 10:17:18 AM
Art,

Many thanks. I appreciate the offer.

I'm afraid my search for the code has been in vain. A zillion screensavers but not example code that I can find.

If you wouldnt mind hunting it out some time I would be grateful.

Thanks
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: ART on July 08, 2006, 12:36:32 PM
Hi Santiniuk:

  Least I can do..

Attached here..

Art
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on July 14, 2006, 02:47:19 AM
Art,

Many thanks. It's a cool piece of code.

(Some heavy maths in there !)

Regards
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: njwtech on October 18, 2007, 11:52:53 AM
I just tried out this screen and it looks VERY cool, but I found a couple of problems.  When you go into the cycle mode where you actually start cutting, the LED's on the far right side are not in the correct place.  There is no Tool Change LED, and the one that is actually beside the Tool Change nameplate is actually connected to the coolant function.  I don't know what it is connected to, but I don't think the LED beside the Coolant nameplate is functional.  At least I have not seen it come on...

Great looking screen though...

..
Norm
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: santiniuk on October 24, 2007, 04:52:16 AM
Norm,

Apologies for the delay. For some reason any mail from the site gets put in my BT spam filter. Even my Google account has started doing the same  >:( So I don't get the alerts unless I visit and notice.

As far as I can check, the operation of the Silverblue set was the same as the supplied Turn screen.

I'm off work now for a few days so let me install the programs again and take a look. It will be good to blow the cobwebs away and do something 'useful' on these dark, miserable, cold, gloomy, damp, UK nights  ::)

Cheers
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: njwtech on November 05, 2007, 05:22:52 PM
I used Screen4 to go in and repair my copy of the screen, but just so you have the information there are three leds that are wrong...  On Page 3, right hand side:

Text  --------->  LED
Tool Change  ------------> Coolant LED
Coolant  ----------------> Front LED
Paused  ---------------> Rear LED

It looks like the leds were just copied from Page 2 to Page 3 with the intention to change their functions but it got missed and the functions remained as they were on Page 2.

..
Norm
Title: Re: Mach3Turn - 1st 'Beta' release of the SilverBlue Screenset for lathes
Post by: panaceabeachbum on September 09, 2008, 10:29:51 PM
I have been using this screenset for about 6 months now and really like it , is there anyway i can easily add an MDI line to the automatic/cycle screen? There is an unused black bar right below the tool path that looks ideal , would save a few steps when i need to type in a tool change command .

Also i notice the arrow keys on my keyboard work fine for jogging the machine when I am in the manual screen but are disabled when on the automatic screen