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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: jediking on January 23, 2008, 09:07:27 PM

Title: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 23, 2008, 09:07:27 PM
have a kent mill with servo II cnc conversion have had no luck gettin the mach 3 program to work any suggestions or tricks that could help? ty ::)
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: DennisCNC on January 23, 2008, 11:12:12 PM
The servo motors are DC brushless,  do the drives take step/direction signals?  If not are you using a step/dir to +/- 10volt converter board?  What breakout board do you have?

Or did you just load Mach3 on a pc and pluged it in to the Servo II controller?  IF yes, that will not work.
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 24, 2008, 12:14:34 AM
yea i just loaded it on a laptop and was goin from there so yea need some help here
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: DennisCNC on January 24, 2008, 10:21:42 AM
Well you have a road a head,  but don't fear it can be done.  Put up some pictures of the motor controllers or are they inside each of the motors?  Also a picture of inside the control box to get a idea of their setup.
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: Hood on January 24, 2008, 10:27:27 AM
First thing I would suggest you do, especially as it is on a laptop, is look in your Mach3 folder, you will see "DriverTest.exe"  Double click on it and a test will be done to see if your computer will run Mach ok. Also make sure you have shut Mach down before running the test.
Hood
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 24, 2008, 11:09:15 PM
well i guess my pics didnt get posted i will try again tomorrow is there a better way to post pics as when i tried earlier it woildnt let me attach the whole file so i just attached 4 pics as it allowed i apologize as i im somewhat of a noob @ forums and a super noob at mach 3
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: DennisCNC on January 25, 2008, 02:47:07 PM
I often use this site for pics, http://imageshack.us/  just remember to copy the URL after it uploads the picture so you can find it again.
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 25, 2008, 07:11:19 PM

k i wiil try that when i get home. i have been going through the tutorial videos and i think my problem may be in the pin set up as i have no documentation on the machine i need to get the pin information i know that the motors are working because i can controll them through the pendant.that is another question will i need to remove the pendant? i really appreciate all of you gus input and hel i just wanna get my machine up .excited and frustrated all at the same time lol. i will continue with the vidios as well as try and get the pics up so u guys can see kinda what ive got,as well as try and get more info on my equipment thanks again
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 25, 2008, 07:16:09 PM
i did run the test on the laptop and have come to the conclusion that the laptop will not work dunno if its a cpu issue or what but i just looked like barcode across the test window so i will use my desktop tha ran an exceptional test .just wanted to use laptop to keep it out of the dirty environment owell cant win them all.
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 28, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
been doing a little research and this is what the guy from servo II said "The Servo II does not use step and direction inputs it is a full closed loop
servo system with the Positioning commands coming from a PC with the
Servosource CNC program via an RS232 high speed connection." not real sure what all of this means but am i stuck or will i be able to run mach 3 on this machine?
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: Hood on January 28, 2008, 06:16:27 PM
Sounds like it uses analogue signal (plus minus 10v) so unless you get converters or different drives you cant use Mach.
Hood
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 29, 2008, 03:43:17 PM
well here is a link to the pics dunno if these may help me it just doesnt seem like it should be as complicated as mabe im making it to be. http://profile.imageshack.us/user/jediking/
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: DennisCNC on January 30, 2008, 03:13:20 PM
The control box looks nice and compact but it will not work with Mach directly, you will need different motor drives that take step/dir signals or get 3 DC servo motors and 3 drives and go this route.

Like the motors here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-DC-Servo-Motors-with-Encoders-1340-Oz-in-CNC-Router_W0QQitemZ290200887361QQihZ019QQcategoryZ78195QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Drives:
I'm using these:
http://www.larkencnc.com/viper/v100.htm

or these for less:
http://www.geckodrive.com/product.cfm?pid=13

You can probably get good money on eBay for the Servo II stuff. 

Did you ask the Servo people what it will cost to get the system going if you were to buy what ever is needed from them?
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on January 30, 2008, 03:44:06 PM
i am in contact with the servo guys an waiting on a quote for the dongle which is the key to the software that i do have but it seems quite antiquated and even then dont really know how user friendly their system is. ill have to wait and see what the dongles gonna cost then weigh out my options. so if i were to get a driver would i need to get some one who knows how to hooke it all up or would i need to totally redo my box? im ordering the manual for the SII today hopefully theres some more info there be a few days before i get it.
Title: Re: mach3 on kent mill
Post by: jediking on February 01, 2008, 12:25:12 PM
well got my manual today so imma read up on it so ill let u guys know what i come up with