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Mach Discussion => Mach4 General Discussion => Topic started by: MikeSibley on February 05, 2021, 12:44:50 PM

Title: Need your help please
Post by: MikeSibley on February 05, 2021, 12:44:50 PM
I have something strange going on and want to reach out to see if any of you have any ideas.

I'm using Mach 4 on an Avid Pro 4848 and generating G-Code with Vectric Aspire.  On a 3-D model, something is outputting a phantom box as if it were added to the model on all of the 3-D carvings.  I went back and looked at the Aspire software preview and there is nothing on there showing any additional z-height at all, so the box that is being carved into the model is non-existent (as far as I can tell) from the CAD/CAM software.

Could there be a setting or something that I am doing with Mach 4 that could be causing this?  It is not just on one model, but on everything I carve in 3D. 

My Mach 4 is standard but with the settings provided by the machine manufacturer.

If you have any ideas, I would certainly appreciate them.

Mike
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: ZASto on February 05, 2021, 12:56:27 PM
It is not Mach, it is something in your machine, backlash perhaps.
BTW change your finishing strategy from Offset to Raster and at an angle of 45 degrees.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: MikeSibley on February 05, 2021, 01:22:16 PM
I will go out and recut today using those parameters and we will see how it works.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: MikeSibley on February 06, 2021, 08:28:37 PM
It is not Mach, it is something in your machine, backlash perhaps.
BTW change your finishing strategy from Offset to Raster and at an angle of 45 degrees.

I'm not overly impressed with Mach 4.  I use a lot of highly detailed GIS and other software for work, and both Mach 4 and Vectric are amateur type software.  Maybe because it is such a limited user base, but it is not well written.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: Brian Barker on February 06, 2021, 09:01:04 PM
Lol , what part seems to be an issue?  Many things can make something like that happen that are not software related. Vectric was originally done by another Brian.. he invented ArtCam for Delcam . Next time I see him I will be sure to tell him the software industry (artistic CNC software) he invented is no good... actually last time I talked to him he was getting ready to retire.. way smarter than me.

Sorry I am just having a little fun. This stuff can be a bit of a pain. Zoom in on the toolpath and see if you can see the height change. I have had that happen.  Coming out and throwing stones will not get you help.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: MikeSibley on February 06, 2021, 09:27:28 PM
Lol , what part seems to be an issue?  Many things can make something like that happen that are not software related. Vectric was originally done by another Brian.. he invented ArtCam for Delcam . Next time I see him I will be sure to tell him the software industry (artistic CNC software) he invented is no good... actually last time I talked to him he was getting ready to retire.. way smarter than me.

Sorry I am just having a little fun. This stuff can be a bit of a pain. Zoom in on the toolpath and see if you can see the height change. I have had that happen.  Coming out and throwing stones will not get you help.

Al Capone retired wealthy, kind of like these folks.  This software is amateurish.  I'm used to using extremely well written software, this isn't that well written, I cannot help he's ripped off everyone previously.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: MikeSibley on February 06, 2021, 09:31:17 PM
Lol , what part seems to be an issue?  Many things can make something like that happen that are not software related. Vectric was originally done by another Brian.. he invented ArtCam for Delcam . Next time I see him I will be sure to tell him the software industry (artistic CNC software) he invented is no good... actually last time I talked to him he was getting ready to retire.. way smarter than me.

Sorry I am just having a little fun. This stuff can be a bit of a pain. Zoom in on the toolpath and see if you can see the height change. I have had that happen.  Coming out and throwing stones will not get you help.

I have a few software engineers that work with me.  I'm going to propose that we write a well engineered software suite and release it open source.  That will make up for this junk.
Title: Re: Need your help please
Post by: Brian Barker on February 07, 2021, 06:43:15 AM
Wow, you really are aggressive. I would like to help you figure out your issue. But for some reason you are very upset and seem to like confrontation.

I worked with many PHD’s and engineers of all types (Worked for a University) . They where all great people that wanted to solve problems and make the wolf a better place.  You should take a deep breath and relax, take some guidance from your software engineers. I am sure we can find the issue and you can make your sign.  I understand 100% that the software many not be the best and I never claimed to be all that intelligent. But I am here to help and we have 100’s of thousands of units making good parts. So I am sure we can figure it out. But we are not going to get anywhere if your going to be name calling.

All the best man and I am sorry life has made you so angry.