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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 06:18:34 PM

Title: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 06:18:34 PM
Hi Guys,
Please bare with me im 100% new to try this and ive read many posts but to end.
I have a MAXNC-10 ive converted over to better motors via Ebay kit, came with a break out board CCK5560 and M335 drivers plus the MACH3 software.
The PC running it is a old Dell tower case running WinXP.
Issue i have, it wont run the motors.
Ive been over the wiring many times all seems good, i have jumped the power supply 5v from one M335 to the other to which ive now added another...still no go.
The kit came with no instructions, the unit lights up no issue so i gather ive got that part right.
Now the basic settings, that seems to be a issue ive read endless settings and watched some videos and still no go, remember im a newbie so dont hate on me too much :)
I messaged Artsoft but got no reply, so what im after is some guidance please.
That being from setting the printer port up from PC to setting the Dip switches on the M335 to Config the ports & pins.
Sorry for the long rant, oh and i down loaded the latest version of Mach3 and still no go or does it mean the demo free stuff doesnt run it ?
On a side note, i plugged in the old MAXNC hardware and clicked the settings in the config for it and it ran mint, but its also imperial i want metric plus the standard stepper motors for the MAXNC are weak.
Many thanks for you time. 
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 16, 2020, 07:56:41 PM
In most cases its the breakout board that has to be enabled for outputs, pin 14 is common but it could be any of them. It could also be that the board needs a second 12/24v power supply.

A picture of the board and setup my help us.
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 08:01:20 PM
Many thanks for the reply, not sure this helps but this is what i brought
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Kit-4Axis-Nema23-Stepper-Motor-M335-Stepper-Driver-For-Mill-Router-Engraving/283024803779
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 16, 2020, 08:10:01 PM
That one is a pain,  it has to have the 12/24 volt power to enable the outputs and also the enable pin on pin 14 for the drives, you may or may not need it depending how you have the drivers wired.
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 08:13:53 PM
Yep thats the board, ive wired it as per what you have shown but im only using one power supply to feed the 12/24 for the board and the M335.
When you say enable, all ive done is wired the enable wires for all 3 drivers to the same enable on the board, is that correct ?
Or am i better off getting a better board ?
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 16, 2020, 08:24:34 PM
You need the USB connected to the PC too for the 5V logic
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 08:33:49 PM
Yes done that too, i have a spare power supply to add to it ill try that if not then whats a better board to use ?
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 08:35:39 PM
On the board it says beside the two 5v feeds PC ground, im not using that as the wiring i got doesnt show it being used
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 16, 2020, 08:53:19 PM
Try putting 5V and ground straight to the stepper drive enable, you should hear the motor(s) energise.
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 08:56:29 PM
Will do thank you.
Can you give me a run down of the basic settings so i can at least makesure thats right including the parallel PC port settings ?
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 16, 2020, 09:10:02 PM
Do not use any software that came with the package, its pirated and we know it and strange things happen when you run it.  Download from the downloads page and run it in demo mode until you are happy.  If you have a genuine licence use it.  Do NOT use any provided by the hardware supplier.
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 16, 2020, 09:12:19 PM
Will do, ill delete the current one and down load off the site
Thank you
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 18, 2020, 06:35:06 AM
Hi Mate,
oK a little progress, i reloaded the software from Artsoft.
Went through the settings and no still no go.
You mentioned the enable thing so i removed that wire from one of M335 drivers and i noticed the power supply fan stepped up likes its been unloaded.
Nothing happened, until i took the enable wire off the other two drivers and now i have 2 axis moving but regardless of +/- jolt they go the same direction.
At a guess one of the drivers is bad maybe which i have a spare, if that works why would the axis only go one direction?
Appreciate your help
Cheers
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: Graham Waterworth on April 18, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Bad wiring is my guess or the direction pin is set wrong.
Title: Re: Frustrated Newbie,
Post by: msenz on April 18, 2020, 10:08:16 PM
Ok sorted and running, seems the driver was dead
Fitted another but same wiring and we are in business, thank you for your time