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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: DonMarkey on January 01, 2020, 08:04:01 PM

Title: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 01, 2020, 08:04:01 PM
Is it just me or do I just buy junk but computers don’t seem to last me. I have the computer mounted in the control cabinet. There is an intake and a servo amp fan. Most the time my machines sit, most the time for 3-4 month at a time. The shop is heated but not air conditioned, but it seldom gets over 85 degs here. I usually buy used high end cpu that come off lease from large companies. I am running Mach3 on Windows 7. I just lost another one. Should I be doing things differently? Maybe get a laptop and just run the Ethernet cord to the machine and bring the laptop in the house with not it use? My mill has an Ethernet smooth stepper, any problems with Windows 10? The computer in my lathe I think still works but I haven’t fired it up in 2 years so who knows. So you get an idea of the time frame between uses. Any suggestions?
Thanks
Don
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: BR549 on January 02, 2020, 01:14:58 PM
When you say "I lost another one". WHAT failed on teh PC ? Power supply ? Capacitors on teh Motherboard ? Hard Drive?

Just a thought (;-) TP
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 02, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
Mother board this time according to the computer guy. One of these days I’ll learn to save my files.
Don
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: Guntruck1776 on January 03, 2020, 06:36:23 AM
Why can't you retrieve files off the hard drive? actually just pull hard drive and install it another computer, with similar setup
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 03, 2020, 10:19:14 AM
I’m getting that done. Just adds to the fees from the repair shop.
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: BR549 on January 03, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
I find with older PCS is to leave teh PC ON all teh time. With older PCs the power cycling tends to fail the capacitors more often than not.

Just a thought, (;-) TP
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: ZASto on January 03, 2020, 05:14:32 PM
Like older audio equipment (cca 20-30 years old) , older motherboards are in need for recaping (changing electrolytic capacitors). I have an old IBM Pentium II/III motherboard still in working condition.

Are you beeing charged for copying data from old HDD?
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 03, 2020, 05:29:00 PM
Yes $39-$149 depending on the amount. I should be in the lower amount. I did have them put a solid state drive in the new one. Hopefully that eliminates one potential problem. 4000 lb mill but I’m sure there is still some vibration. Enclosure is filtered and I’ll probably add another fan to help with heat.
Don
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 04, 2020, 07:40:35 PM
Wow this is frustrating. Now my laptop is acting up. This is what I write Mach3 code on and program plcs with. Running Windows 7 pro. I ran Windows security and found a Trojan. It supposedly fixed that but now if I connect to the internet any page redirects to webhostisd.com or something like that. I don’t use a computer often as I use my iPhone for day to day stuff. I haven’t even turned it on on about 3 months. The internet at the house is iffy and generally I turn the WiFi off on my phone since cellular data is faster and I have unlimited. I’m about to the point I want to sell the cnc mill and lathe and just get manual machines again. When it rains it pours.
Don
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on January 05, 2020, 01:13:26 AM
Quote
When it rains it pours.

I know the feeling well  :'(

Tweakie.
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: ZASto on January 05, 2020, 04:26:11 AM
Don,
download Kaspersky Rescue Disk: https://support.kaspersky.com/viruses/krd18 , create bootable USB flash and boot your infected computer from it. The infected computer should be connected to Internet for krd to be able to download latest virus signatures and start scanning.
Krd runs Linux and it will clean your machine.

After that, you should install some good antivirus software before you connect to internet. I would suggest you ESET NOD32: https://www.eset.com/us/

Another thing: your computer which is dedicated for CNC machine, should NEVER be connected to Internet. It can be connected to your local LAN and set only one folder as shared where you can save your jobs that you will run on your CNC. Windows update turned off, and no antivirus software installed.

BTW, when it pours, use one of these: https://bluntumbrellas.co.nz/collections/umbrellas :D
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: DonMarkey on January 05, 2020, 08:46:50 AM
I probably should order a few umbrellas!  I have 3 cnc machines. 1 lathe running Mach3, I mill on Mach3, and another mill still on hurco bx control. Both Mach units have dedicated PCs in each control panel. Lathe on win xp, parallel port and steppers. It needs spindle bearing. It’s been down 2 years so I don’t know it that pc is ok. The first mill has the pc I originally posted about. Running win7 ess, and servos.  Both those are in the shop and don’t ever see the internet. The only other pc I have is this laptop that I write cnc programs on the move them to the machines via a usb drive. The plan is to up grade the mill to Mach4 and maybe the lathe after repair and replacing the steppers with servos and adding a motion controller. Hence my original question, what are the thoughts behind getting a new laptop and using it for both writing programs and running the machines. It would never be used for anything else other than maybe the servo tuning software or the plc software and wouldn’t be connected to the internet while running cnc and only Mach4 not 3. Or am I creating an eggs in one basket scenario?  Can I get away only buying one Mach4 license that way and create different profiles? Or can I use a Mach4 license on 2 PCs and demo mode on the programing pc like I do now with Mach3?
Title: Re: Losing computers
Post by: joeaverage on January 05, 2020, 01:39:17 PM
Hi,
I have a dedicated PC for my Mach4 machine but also I have run it via the ESS with my laptop, so yes it is possible to
run a machine with a laptop which can and does get used for CAD/CAM and general srfing...and writing on forums.

Mach4Hobby allows you up to five licensed PC's for each Mach4Hobby purchase, so you could have different machines
with different PC's no trouble. You can also have multiple profiles, say one for your mill and one for your lathe and just
use the one laptop to run both.

Craig