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Title: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ZASto on April 09, 2019, 03:07:39 AM
As per subject.
Captcha should be more complicated one. I just logged off, tried to register a couple of times, just to see how easy is to create an account. It was enough to click on "I'm not a robot" and ... spamer goes through.
Hope that someone will fix this problem (NFS)

 >:(
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Overloaded on April 09, 2019, 10:23:13 AM
Also wish there was a better filtering process.
Russ
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: joeaverage on April 15, 2019, 10:48:40 PM
Hi Russ,
on other forums a new members first post must be approved by a moderator before its posted. That would filter out
some spam but also put the pressure on very few moderators.

There are by my count 14 Global Moderators of which perhaps three or four are active.

Craig
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Overloaded on April 16, 2019, 07:46:56 AM
Hi Craig.
 I've seen that as well. Sometimes have to wait  too long IMO.
I'd hate to risk blocking a legitimate need for support just to catch the occasional slice of spam ... even for a short time.
 As long as it doesn't any worse that it has been recently, I suppose we can handle it as is.
If it gets out of hand, I'm sure the administrators will make the necessary changes.
And maybe even enlist new recruits.
 :)
 
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ger21 on April 16, 2019, 08:57:26 AM
Hi Russ,
on other forums a new members first post must be approved by a moderator before its posted.


I have my own small forum, and spammers are a huge problem. I had to set new users to be inactive until approved, as I get about 100 spammers signing up every day.
A few days ago I had to delete 40,000 accounts.
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Overloaded on April 20, 2019, 09:57:28 PM
WOW Gerry !
There has been an explosion here lately.
I deleted over 60, then 50 more just popped in.
Looks like "collusion".  ;D
I can't keep up.
Squashing one makes two !
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: joeaverage on April 21, 2019, 09:11:25 PM
Hi,
presume the rash of spam on the Downloads/Others board are some organized setup where a machine establishes a new
account and then posts spam mail. If the other posts, about 15 of them by my count, were moved could the 'Others' board be
closed and thwart the spammer?

Craig
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Overloaded on April 21, 2019, 10:30:50 PM
bet I've removed 200 or more from there recently.   :P
Something automatic going on there for sure.
No real harm if that is the only board being hit ?
If closed, they might show up in a more popular place ?
They're relentless !
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: joeaverage on April 21, 2019, 11:53:08 PM
Hi Russ,

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No real harm if that is the only board being hit ?
If closed, they might show up in a more popular place ?
They're relentless !

Your right, that board has seen that little traffic that it doesn't really matter, and yes there is a possibility that if the board
were removed they might find another more annoying lace to post.

They really piss me off.....I would still like to see all new members first post be moderated, at least it would give
moderators/administrators an IP address.

Craig
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ZASto on April 25, 2019, 05:50:44 PM
In a matter of minutes in https://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0 a "shower" of spam :D

Soo... Captcha SUCKS!
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 26, 2019, 02:52:11 AM
In a matter of minutes in https://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?board=11.0 a "shower" of spam :D

Soo... Captcha SUCKS!

It took him (I assume it is just one guy) a little longer than minutes to register the new members and place the spam postings but I agree...  Captcha SUCKS!


I have requested that the registration Captcha be changed from the basic to the complex - maybe it will help.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 26, 2019, 02:59:02 AM

They really piss me off.....I would still like to see all new members first post be moderated, at least it would give
moderators/administrators an IP address.

Craig

Hi Craig,

All new member's and contributor's IP addresses are already logged but when (as in this case) a VPN is being used the IP address is worthless.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ZASto on April 26, 2019, 03:07:41 AM
With such weak Captcha, it is easy to write a python script to flood a forum.
Indication to me that this method was used is thet user NameSurname were concatenated :)
Of course, for this kind of flooding VPN is necessity.
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ger21 on April 26, 2019, 07:46:43 AM
The only way to stop the spammers is to manually approve new users
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Overloaded on April 26, 2019, 08:17:07 AM
The only way to stop the spammers is to manually approve new users

Is that entirely out of the question ?
Would the approval be by administration ? or moderators ?
What would prevent a spammer from flooding the New Member request bay ?
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ZASto on April 26, 2019, 10:40:10 AM
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What would prevent a spammer from flooding the New Member request bay ?
Nothing, but the spammer will stay in "noman's land" :)
It is quite easy ti spot the spammer. There are a lot of YT videos how to make a script that will flood New Member request bay.

Watch this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtNYzv8gLbs

One of the things that is visible is NameSurname (without space) user name combination, name with a couple of numbers attached as username, ...
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: ZASto on May 14, 2019, 03:11:42 PM
I like new system of approval :)
A bit of work for mods but spam free.

;)
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: joeaverage on May 15, 2019, 02:43:09 AM
Hi,
I agree.

Craig
Title: Re: Registering to forum Captcha sucks
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on May 15, 2019, 03:39:15 AM
 :)