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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: Overloaded on March 27, 2019, 06:23:36 PM
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:) Is my system on the fritz again ? ? ? or has someone busted the forum ?
I get unwanted videos running that I cant turn off and navigation is much more difficult than before.
Thought I was in the wrong place initially ..... (maybe I am ::) )
Thanks,
Russ
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I too was thinking about commenting on the new format but there is an old adage "If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all".
If the new format is better in some way I haven't found it yet.
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I was being nice ;D
I always try to give the benefit of doubt. ;D
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Sorry Overload, I did not intend my comment to apply to you but was explaining why I didn't comment earlier.
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:) Hey, no apology necessary.
I agree, that's a damn good rule to live by.
But some times ya just gotta be tough and nice at the same time. :)
"If the new format is better in some way I haven't found it yet."
We are clearly in the same boat.
All I did was break the ice. :D
We'll adapt .... we always do.
I just hate the automatic vids that eat up my gigs. To get ad bucks I guess, I understand.
I'm way out in the sticks with limited access.
Kind regards my friend,
Russ
:)
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Use Opera browser
In Opera settings
Block ads
Stop videos.
Easily done....
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Well, I can't take credit for it but I do like the way it looks. I have found some small issues but think they will be addressed soon. I'll see if they can add an option to disable the videos too. It's just a video from our youtube channel. I love it myself but can understand it eating up the gigs.
RC gets his interwebs through 2 cans and a string........... makes me jealous. :) But not by much, mine isn't much different.
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RC gets his interwebs through 2 cans and a string...........
;D
Actually, we recently got upgraded to dsl through the farm fencing. What an improvement ! ;)
Honestly though, what I dislike the most is all of the wasted screen space of the new layout. As screens get larger and larger, this utilizes less and less of it. Sort of like "wasted resolution" in a stepper system.
We could put one (short) line per page and invest in mouse wheel detent mechanisms. ;D
Mouse ? You might have to gugle that :D
It is pretty though. :)
Regards,
Russ
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A please
Please give us the option to remove the video, or just put a link to your YT channel
The rest looks nice and tidy ,it’s clear and concise
Stuart
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:) Hey, no apology necessary.
I agree, that's a damn good rule to live by.
But some times ya just gotta be tough and nice at the same time. :)
"If the new format is better in some way I haven't found it yet."
We are clearly in the same boat.
All I did was break the ice. :D
We'll adapt .... we always do.
I just hate the automatic vids that eat up my gigs. To get ad bucks I guess, I understand.
I'm way out in the sticks with limited access.
Kind regards my friend,
Russ
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Search what type of browser you use to turn autoplay of video off -
It will be hidden deep in the browser configs and switch it to manual -
When you find it and switch it remember that if you get a browser update it will switch it back
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Search what type of browser you use to turn autoplay of video off -
It will be hidden deep in the browser configs and switch it to manual -
When you find it and switch it remember that if you get a browser update it will switch it back
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Using FireFox, looked all through the settings and didn't see where to select that.
Will look again a little deeper, might have to ask online.
Thank you,
Russ
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Search what type of browser you use to turn autoplay of video off -
It will be hidden deep in the browser configs and switch it to manual -
When you find it and switch it remember that if you get a browser update it will switch it back
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Using FireFox, looked all through the settings and didn't see where to select that.
Will look again a little deeper, might have to ask online.
Thank you,
Russ
Here is a link for how to do it - remember if you get a update you got to do it again -
https://www.lifewire.com/stop-autoplay-video-4151927
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Search what type of browser you use to turn autoplay of video off -
It will be hidden deep in the browser configs and switch it to manual -
When you find it and switch it remember that if you get a browser update it will switch it back
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Using FireFox, looked all through the settings and didn't see where to select that.
Will look again a little deeper, might have to ask online.
Thank you,
Russ
How do I turn off video autoplay in Firefox?
Open up a new browser tab, go to about:config , and adjust these settings:
Set media.autoplay.default to 1 to disable video autoplay for all sites.
Set media.autoplay.allow-muted to false to disable video autoplay even for muted videos.
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:) Hey guys, thanks.
That worked .... sort of ::)
Restarted the browser, of course.
Now the vid is paused and muted automatically but is still loading as normal. (I can see it chomping on my gigs in the progress bar) >:(
Thanks again,
Russ :D
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;D
Actually, we recently got upgraded to dsl through the farm fencing. What an improvement ! ;)
Honestly though, what I dislike the most is all of the wasted screen space of the new layout. As screens get larger and larger, this utilizes less and less of it. Sort of like "wasted resolution" in a stepper system.
We could put one (short) line per page and invest in mouse wheel detent mechanisms. ;D
Mouse ? You might have to gugle that :D
It is pretty though. :)
Regards,
Russ
;D Well not the best internet service for living in the good land........ cheap price to pay IMO....... makes me jealous.
We may be able to set it up so that each member can choose the theme they prefer. This would allow you to choose any available theme in your profile settings.
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I keep my tabs open, and never go to the main index page, so I don't see the video.
And I always use the "Show Unread Posts", which can now be found by clicking on your name in the upper right corner.
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And if you want to use the default theme go to you profile, look and layout and the very first thing is a place to choose the theme you want to use. The previous theme was the SMF default - curve. The current theme is Mach.
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Thanks for that info
Happy bunny here now
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:)
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Ditto Bunny ;D
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And I always use the "Show Unread Posts", which can now be found by clicking on your name in the upper right corner.
I used to use that as well ! Thanks for finding it and pointing it out.
Russ
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I have reverted to the old theme (SMF default - curve) as per Chaoticone's instructions - all is right in the world now. No video, same screens as before.
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Hi MN300,
I reverted to the smf theme as well, and as much for familiarities I prefer it.
I'm not so sure that the video is still not running, or rather being loaded even if its not displayed.
When running the Mach theme on each occasion I would return to the top page of the forum the video clip
would load anew and totally unnecessarily. This is a waste of bandwidth. My request is that the video stream
be removed from the page, or perhaps able to be downloaded by clicking on a thumbnail say.
The next question I have is why the team developed the new theme at all? Clearly the same database is used
to construct two visually different pages but contain exactly the same information. Is the new theme in some
way better than the smf default? Is there a new development around the corner for which the new theme
is required?
Is there some fault or deficiency with the smf theme? If not, then why bother.....I would have thought/hoped that
updating the API.chm in Mach4, or documenting the Surface Map module would have taken preference.
Craig
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I brought up the Task manager and see the network activity go to zero when not on a page with the video.
Pausing the video stops the download too.
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Hi MN300,
I brought up the Task manager and see the network activity go to zero when not on a page with the video.
Pausing the video stops the download too.
Kool, I never thought to do that.....makes perfect sense.
What I had noted was that despite pausing the video (with the pause button) the load bar at the bottom of the
video window carried on loading, which I assumed was consuming data over my Interenet connection.
Craig
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Best is to use Opera Browser.
All ads. in sites like Youtube etc will automatically be filtered off if ad blocker is on in Opera.
Then download add-on for opera called disable HTML autoplay.
This add-on (also available for Chrome) will stop video autoplay. But you can choose to play by clicking on the video and enjoy the video without Ads.
(See attached)
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Pausing the video stops the download too.
As I said earlier, pausing does not stop anything as far as the progress bar or the Task Mgr. is concerned here.
Russ
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I tried the task manager again. When I hit pause the download stopped for about 10 seconds. Then there were spikes every 9 or 10 seconds. After a minute or so they stopped. Then the data would start and stop with pause.
If you change the theme you only are on the screen with the video until you hit Login - less than a second if you are quick.
I tried making a bookmark for the login screen so I could skip the home screen but then an error occurs when I try to log in.
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Pausing the video stops the download too.
As I said earlier, pausing does not stop anything as far as the progress bar or the Task Mgr. is concerned here.
Russ
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YOU are right.
If using MACH theme,
Video even when paused is still being downloaded in background. HTM5 autoplay diabled only reduce the CPU utilization but not the video download.
When Theme changed back to (SMF default - curve)
CPU utilization is low & Network (downloading of Video) are stopped.
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Hi reuelt,
I have found the same thing, if I use the new theme the video downloads whether I pause it or not, whereas if I use
the SMF theme the video does not download.
I don't really care which theme I use but I don't want to be unnecessarily downloading a video all the time. Ergo I will
use the previous (SMF) theme.
Craig
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The next question I have is why the team developed the new theme at all?
why bother.....I would have thought/hoped that updating the API.chm in Mach4, or documenting the Surface Map module would have taken preference.
I was pleasantly surprised by the new format and didn't find it to be all that disruptive, although I will concede that the autoplay on the video can be problematic for some. I have mentioned that to the members of our team who can address that issue. You can rest assured that those efforts are not at all impacting development or documentation, as this is not a one man operation.
As you have pointed out in other threads, OEM accounts are important and necessary to our operations. It is my personal opinion that having a layout that complements our main website is an example of good branding and will only help attract new OEMs and distributors. I wasn't involved in making this change, but I do wholeheartedly support it. If we wish to continue growing as a company (and we do!), having a cohesive and professional interface is certainly a step in the right direction.
Please know that I do read through the majority of posts (on the Mach4 side of the forum at least) and do my best to advocate for you, our customers, whenever possible. I can't and won't always chime in, but you are being heard.
-Bryanna
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Bryanna
Thanks for the update
Yes as I posted the layout is clean but it’s that video that I disliked , it’s to distracting
As to bandwidth usage i have no problem with it running in the background a unlimited 350mbs internet takes it in its stride
Stuart
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Is smf theme gone for good?
I hate the youtube video which is, even paused, downloading in background. It's annoying.
Here are forum users that are not so lucky as Stuart with 350mbps unlimited bandwidth.
If users prefer to watch youtube videos, they will visit tube directly.
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Is smf theme gone for good?
I hate the youtube video which is, even paused, downloading in background. It's annoying.
Here are forum users that are not so lucky as Stuart with 350mbps unlimited bandwidth.
If users prefer to watch youtube videos, they will visit tube directly.
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https://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=39758.msg266672#msg266672
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I have mentioned that to the members of our team who can address that issue.
-Bryanna
Hello Bryanna
If you talk to the team improving the forum, why not tell them to at least make displaying
"I am USING MACH3"
or
"I am USING MACH4"
Compulsory in every NEW user's profile signature (to be always displayed).
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https://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=39758.msg266672#msg266672
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Thanks :)
Had to digg again through options.
I prefer "old look".
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Hello Bryanna
If you talk to the team improving the forum, why not tell them to at least make displaying
"I am USING MACH3"
or
"I am USING MACH4"
Compulsory in every NEW user's profile signature (to be always displayed).
What if I use both?
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Hello Bryanna
If you talk to the team improving the forum, why not tell them to at least make displaying
"I am USING MACH3"
or
"I am USING MACH4"
Compulsory in every NEW user's profile signature (to be always displayed).
What if I use both?
Then please say "I am using MACH4"
then add MACH3 and your hardware in Optional signature
Idea is, answers to new users questions must be different if they are using MACH4 instead of MACH3.
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That's why there are both Mach3 and Mach4 sections.
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That's why there are both Mach3 and Mach4 sections.
MACH4 users may be asking questions in GENERAL MACH DISCUSSIONS or "Introduce yourself" forum too.
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That's why there are both Mach3 and Mach4 sections.
MACH4 users may be asking questions in GENERAL MACH DISCUSSIONS or "Introduce yourself" forum too.
Even a simple question about "my gcode file cannot run" in GENERAL MACH DISCUSSIONS may simply be because MACH4 and MACH3 has different sets of Gcode and Mcode.
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Hi,
Even a simple question about "my gcode file cannot run" in GENERAL MACH DISCUSSIONS may simply be because MACH4 and MACH3 has different sets of Gcode and Mcode.
I've used both Mach3 and Mach4 and they use the same Gcode and Mcodes. Some of my oldest files from when I was using
Mach3 and parallel ports run perfectly under Mach4 and ESS five years later.
Many newcomers fail to provide the information that is required to guess at or otherwise answer their problem,
things like whether they are using a parallel port vs an external controller. That's OK we can ask them.
There have been circumstances where posts have ended up in the wrong board. Tweakie is pretty proactive at shifting
them to the correct location. I'm not aware that its become such a problem that actions you are talking about
are strictly necessary.
Craig
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"they use the same Gcode and Mcodes"
Many of them are common.
But
MACH4 and MACH3 do have some gcodes and mcodes that are different.
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Hi,
MACH4 and MACH3 do have some gcodes and mcodes that are different.
What ones? There are a couple (m161 and m162) that get used for laser ops but as far as I know all the rest are the same.
Craig
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I vaguely remember some time ago there was actually a discussion, or at least mention, that maybe there should be two totally separate forums. One for Mac3 and its associated goodies, and one for Mach4. There were pros and cons but one point was to start nice and fresh with Mach4 and not have it cluttered up with the gads of antiquated subs and boards that this one has. Some still relevant and useful, and some not so much.
The Mach3 forum would support its followers and be preserved for posterity while the new Mach4 venue would be a fresh and inviting experience for fan base and the aspiring newcomers.
The worst of it would be our good friend Craig would then (hopefully ;) be compelled to monitor 2 forums to provide continued support. ;D
:)
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Hi,
MACH4 and MACH3 do have some gcodes and mcodes that are different.
What ones? There are a couple (m161 and m162) that get used for laser ops but as far as I know all the rest are the same.
Craig
There are some more:-
You cannot repeat the cycle G code on every line like you could in Mach3.
Mach3 would allow:
G83 X.. Y.. Z.. R.. Q..
G83 X.. Y.. Z.. R.. Q..
G83 X.. Y.. Z.. R.. Q..
G80
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Mach 4 requires:
G83 X.. Y.. Z.. R.. Q..
X.. Y
X.. Y
G80
Threading on the lathe (G76) is Fanuc compatible and Mach3 threading code will just not run in Mach4.
M10 and M11 for THC not supported in Mach4
There are others which I haven't listed yet
(i have both MACH 4 and Mach3 reference guides).
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Hi,
You cannot repeat the cycle G code on every line like you could in Mach3.
That is correct, in fact Mach4 adheres closer to ANSI Gcode and requires Gcode which complies. The G83
example is one that I have come across when making circuit boards, I have a macro that recasts
the Gcode on the fly.
M10 and M11 for THC not supported in Mach4
m10 and m11 are deprecated in favour of m162 and m163.
I've never used either. I have used mill toolpaths extensively and the only difference I have found is
the repeated g83 anomaly, and Mach3 is non-compliant whereas Mach4 is, either way it doesn't stop me.
Cannot comment on g76, never used it. I mill threads rather than turn them.
Craig
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Hi,
g76 is covered in the LatheGcodeProgramming.pdf quite extensively, pages 41 through 43
Mach4 does support g76 lathe threading after all.
Craig
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Hi,
Mach4 Lathe supports g32 threading as well, LatheGcodeProgramming.pdf pages 31 and 32
and g34 variable pitch (lead) threading on page 33.
Rather more threading options than I had supposed!
Craig
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M4 Gcodes closer to Fanuc is a good thing.
People using MACH4 as a hobby may find employment in big organizations one day.
MACH4 Industrial version even better since you can create/customize Gcode to match a big Branded machine.
Point is when a user ask for help, it is quicker to give them the correct answer if we know which Program they are using without having to ask.
I am a member of the ORGANFORUM - every member MUST list their hardware and software & version# in their signature. Same with some Astronomy Forums.
Asking just MACH4 or MACH3 is NOT so drastic when compared with some other forums.
it is just my opinion.
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Hi All
How do you sign out of the forum while reading "all unread topics", have a cup of tea, then sign in again and continue from where you left off as all unread topics have gone?
How do you mark all unread topics as read without reading them?
Graham
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Brett,
Thanks for the info on the theme setting, all is good again.
FWIW
Change is a good thing ,BUT , most of the time just find it to be a real PITA! :)
RICH
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i can certainly live with the new forum style and changes, but what troubles me is watching the video they feature at the top. my eye says the material they are milling at the start is aluminum. after a long wait I am still hoping to retro my knee mill with mach, but when I watch that video I cringe. I could have machined that job at 3x, 4x or more feed and speed and doc from whats shown, and watching this job running so inefficiently makes me hesitiate on using mach. I know its capable of more, ive seen it carve great 3d art in soft material, so the software and computer stuff seems capable. I think if the folk are going to promote mach as a dependable capable system, they should analyze what they are showing, make it look like it can do serious cutting, and stop posting vids of tooling sticking out 8 times further than it needs to, and drilling with full jobber length drills that walk all over the place because there is no spot or center drill. if youre showing off your new lathe conversion, theres no excuse for not having the tailstock in line with the chuck, or having your tooling .030 above or below centerline. jmho, ymmv. comments welcome.
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i can certainly live with the new forum style and changes, but what troubles me is watching the video they feature at the top. my eye says the material they are milling at the start is aluminum. after a long wait I am still hoping to retro my knee mill with mach, but when I watch that video I cringe. I could have machined that job at 3x, 4x or more feed and speed and doc from whats shown, and watching this job running so inefficiently makes me hesitiate on using mach. I know its capable of more, ive seen it carve great 3d art in soft material, so the software and computer stuff seems capable. I think if the folk are going to promote mach as a dependable capable system, they should analyze what they are showing, make it look like it can do serious cutting, and stop posting vids of tooling sticking out 8 times further than it needs to, and drilling with full jobber length drills that walk all over the place because there is no spot or center drill. if youre showing off your new lathe conversion, theres no excuse for not having the tailstock in line with the chuck, or having your tooling .030 above or below centerline. jmho, ymmv. comments welcome.
I agree. The video certainly does not demonstrate good machining / engineering practice or show the potential capabilities of Mach4. I am sure it will be changed for something more suitable.
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Hi,
I think the general consensus is to get rid of the video altogether.
Craig
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there are a group of folk who post here, that I make sure to read all of their posts because they are the best here, and two have been kind to respond to my comment. I think a video is a good idea, but using good machining technique, id guess 8 minutes could be trimmed from that machining operation, even on my knee mill if it was running, likely more with what appears to be an older matsuura maybe 500 series? then the vid would make folk say "wow" rather than "eww". practical machinist is one of the larger commercial machining forums, and they take pleasure in damning anything mach, even though they still think mach is the same thing it was decades? ago running from the parallel port. artsoft needs to have people see their work performing at best capacity and capability, or the "Hobby" level will continue to define them. and theres nothing wrong with hobby, but this is a hobby video of a machine that I suspect is much more capable than it is shown to be. I don't expect mach to be the million dollar jet blade surfacing machine I used to run, but across the shop was a matsuura 500 in oem shape, and with 2 vises and 2 stops per vise id be expected to yield 20 of these parts shown in the vid per hour likely more. dry milling alum, spending time machining air, and generating paper thin chips does not show off what I think mach can do. perhaps im wrong?
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I too have reverted to the SMF layout as I find the Mach layout harsh and the video is annoying.