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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: klmark on August 11, 2007, 09:56:56 AM
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Hi Everone
Has any one els had that problem the computor crashing when running Mach 3 I can have the computor running all day without Mach running with no problem but when I run Mach sometimes it crasher half way throug the job some times it crashes as soon as I EXE Mach I seem it crash with even no power to the drives the testdrive I have talk with Art witch he thinks is not bad I have optimisation the system but no luck any Help would be apprecatied
Thank you klmark
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Here is my Wild guess > Look for a bad wiring connection in conjunction with parrallel ports ! Namely i'd suspect a ground loop ! my guess is that when mach configures the ports on powerup there is a grounded circuit which shocks pc off line.
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Hi
It dose not do it right away yesterday I EXE Mach in about 1/2 minute it crashed and most of the time it happens when I run a part
Thank you
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I've been using Mach3 for about a year now and I have found that the only time my computer crashes is when I use the edit g-code and click save when I'm done. It crashes as I click on save. This only happens now and then, sometimes it will go for days without incidence and then I could have a whole day of problems. I put it down to using a 1200Mhz computer which I'm told is a bit slow for a happy Mach3.
You never mentioned what computer you are running, Could it be that you are using a slow computor?
Perhaps someone could tell me whether this matters or not to the crashing problems?
Cheers
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My Computer is AMD Processor 1.47GHz 512 MB of Ram
klmark
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Do you have a wireless network on this PC? If so, disable it and see if it happens any more.
Brett
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No wireless network on the computor
klmark
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What type of files are you cutting??? Are you doing large 3D files??
Thanks
Brian
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No 3D just 2D on a Flamecutting machine
klmark
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Can you tell us which operating system you have, and have you got any parallel port devices like printers, scanners etc. installed? Even though the devices might not be connected, the drivers might still load at start up. Even reinstalling windows could cure your problem. Do you get any error messages when your system crashes? Or does it just freeze? If you have XP loaded, when you get a crash, try and leave the system for a while before you reboot, sometimes the OS will recover and give you more info. Also check your BIOS settings, if you are overclocking it can be a problem. Have you got a Machine debugger running in the background? Another option is to disconnect the parallel ports and modbus if you have one, and run Mach3 in simulator mode, and check if you still have a problem.
Whacko
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I am using XP no parallel port devices installed or in us no error messages it it crashes all the way out and start loading XP no freezing no machine debugger running Also can you gave me more info on the BIOS setting if the computor is overclocking
klmark
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The best is to start eliminating potential problems. Have you got any other software problems, or is it only MACH3?
Have you run MACH3 without any hardware connected? You might have to reconfigure some inputs/outputs etc. to enable MACH3 to run virtual depending on your current hardware configuration. If you dont get any crashes when running virtual, the next step would be to check your parallel interface. If you don't get any crashes with other software on your system then let's first leave the BIOS. We can go there later.
Some points to check for, is your hardrive very busy while you run MACH3? This can tell me something.
Also, when last did you do a defrag on your system?
What does the graph look like when you run ART's DriverTest.exe?
Whacko
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Hi the only software on the system is Mach and Lazycam how do I check the hardrive to see how busy. The test DriveTest exe Art said it looks not bad
klmark
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I think there is a problem with the computer :( It sounds like there is something that is getting in and reseting the driver... I hate to say it but there may not be much that you can do at this time ... is the Video on board??? I have had problems with onboard video and a nice new video card has fixed the problem in the past... Other times the problem is still there and I just have to use the computer for the kids ;)
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Check for hardrive activety, i.e. hardrive status led in front of your PC or somewhere on a laptop. Sounds like you have a Sempron, should be fine for Mach3. If your hardrive is very busy, check your pagefile size and memory usage. You can do that by pressing "Ctrl+Alt+Del" simultaneously, to access the task manager whilst in Mach3 is running, and obviously before it crashes.
You have not come back to me about running Mach3 without any hardware connected, with other words in open loop virtual mode. If you do that it can help in establishing wether you have internal or external problems. Did you optimise your OS WinXP as per the "Optimization for WinXP file"?
Whacko
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Hi
Memory is good. But running without hardware connected like I said on the first post I seem it happen with no power to the drive just EXE Mach I seem it happen .
Yes I did optimise OS But here is what I did I formated the computer I saw cutting parts today he seemed to work alright without crashing But I don't want to talk to loud I afraid it will happen again What do you mean with no hardware ? As of now Thank you all for your help I will see what will happen I hope the problem is solved Thank you again klmark
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I read on you previous post you do flame cutting. Do you have auto ignitors on the torch/es? If so, the hf hv noise could induce a crash, or a reset. Do you have a plasma system connected? By without hardware, i mean that you must unplug the parallel ports and serial ports (all) connected to your cncmachine. Disconnect them on the computer side, and note that serial and parallel is not hot swap friendly, so you have to shut down, switch off power, and then unplug the cables. Then run a few programs just on the pc, and check for crashes.
Whacko
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Hi
Know auto ignitors no plasma system conneted I will try unplug the hardware won't it show up again Thank you for your help I will let you know how it went
klmark