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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: Notoriousnorm on May 04, 2018, 01:57:55 PM
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Hi everyone....first post!
I'm a Manufacturing Teacher that was giving a Redcam CNC GR-Series table and Router. The problem I'm having is the CNC machine is not recognizing the Mach 3 software or computer. I can fire up the CNC, but there is no manual movement and/or movement from the Mach 3 software and/or the computer.
Also, just to add....the computer that runs the CNC machine was replaced about 2 months ago, and hasn't been used since then.
I've emailed Redcam and no response back yet.
Just wondering if anyone has any help, advice or tips on how to get the CNC up and running like it use to :)
Thanks in advance for all your help.
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Hi,
what PC is it? What version OS is it using?
What type of controller is fitted to the machine?
Craig
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Hi,
what PC is it? What version OS is it using?
What type of controller is fitted to the machine?
Craig
Hi Craig, much thanks for helping a newbie!
We are using a desktop computer that's running windows 7. We are using Mach 3 with a porter cable router. The cable that's hooked up is like an older printer cable?
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Hi,
so the controller is a parallel port?
Is the Windows7 OS 32 bit or 64 bit?
Craig
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I've attached some photos to this post.
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Hi,
so the controller is a parallel port?
Is the Windows7 OS 32 bit or 64 bit?
Craig
Yes, its a parallel port and its 32 bit (pretty sure)
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Hi,
pretty sure is not enough, use the control panel to positively identify the OS.
Run DriverTest.exe and post a screen shot of the result.
Craig
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Hi,
you need to work through a list...it helps to have a plan and keep on track.
1) Can the PC run Mach?
2) Can the PC load and run Machs Parallel Port Driver, ie is it 32 bit OS and does DriverTest.exe run with minimum jitter?
3) Does the BoB signal the parallel port? ie does the Estop work? Is there a Charge Pump and does it work? Do you require a charge pump?
4) Can the parallel port signal outputs to the BoB? ie can you get a change in output level at a DIR pin.
5) Does Machs Diagnostics reflect an input to the BoB?
6) Do you want Home switches and/or limit switches?
7) Do you really want to combine Limits and Homes? ie advantages/disadvantages
So as you can see there is a method to asking these questions. It is important that each be answered accurately and completely otherwise it is possible to proceed on a mistaken
assumption and thereby waste an inordinate amount of time.
Craig
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Thanks for all that info! I will look into all the points on your list tomorrow in class. I will also try the software.
This list is great, but a lot of the things you have mentioned are stuff I have lack of knowledge with. Sorry, I'm new to this....but eager to learn.
For now, I know the following......
1) Can the PC run Mach?
*Yes it can
2) Can the PC load and run Machs Parallel Port Driver, ie is it 32 bit OS and does DriverTest.exe run with minimum jitter?
*I will try this tomorrow.
3) Does the BoB signal the parallel port? ie does the Estop work? Is there a Charge Pump and does it work? Do you require a charge pump?
*Not sure what a BoB signal is, the EStop does work, and not sure what a charge pump is>
4) Can the parallel port signal outputs to the BoB? ie can you get a change in output level at a DIR pin.
*Not sure what both point mean....sorry.
5) Does Machs Diagnostics reflect an input to the BoB?
*Again, unsure what this means...sorry again :(
6) Do you want Home switches and/or limit switches?
*Not sure what the limit switches are or the home switches
7) Do you really want to combine Limits and Homes? ie advantages/disadvantages
*sorry again.
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Hi,
kool, we'll work through the questions one by one.
Need to determine if the parallel port driver is working well, run DriverTest.exe
Craig
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I tried to find and run drivertest.exe. I couldn't find it after a computer search. Is drivertest.exe part of Mach 3?
I was able to confirm it's 32 bit and it's windows 7.
Also, I emailed Redcam about this issue and this was the response.......not sure what USB means? I emailed them back, but haven't gotten back to me yet.
"If it is on win 7 or 10 it would need to be changed over to USB as win 7 or 10 do not support parallel ports".
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Hi,
yes DriverTest.exe should be in the Mach3 folder. Given that to OS is 32 bit it should run.
There is no point trying further experiments until you can positivley confirm that the parallel
port driver is running. Look again through the Mach3 folder. If its not there download a fresh
copy and try again.
You would need a different controller connected via USB or Ethernet IF you have either a laptop
or a 64 bit OS, but that is not a concern here.
Craig
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BTW do you have an Manual of this router ?
a screenshot of the Motor Outputs would be interesting.
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Hi,
yeah a manual would be great!
May well need to take the top off the control box so we can get a look inside, its a really useful test to put a multimeter on a Dir(ection) output and observe that its level changes.
You never know, the manufacturer may have been kind enough to put LEDs on the outputs and you wouldn't even need a multimeter.
A couple of well focused and composed photos of the inside of the box would be good.
Craig
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Notoriousnorm,
Could you attach <your profile> .xml file (typically Mach3.xml) found in your Mach3 folder. The Redcam setup.exe only configures Ports & Pins in the Lathe version not the Mill version so looking at your .xml may help diagnose the problem.
Tweakie.
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Hi Tweakie, thanks for your help!!
I've tried to post that file to the forum. I'm having issues posting it for some reason. Is it possible to email you the file? I had to split into two separate posts...as it's too large for one post.
Here it all is below....
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