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General CNC Chat => Show"N"Tell ( Your Machines) => Topic started by: Double S on June 29, 2007, 05:09:53 AM
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This is our new KX1-PC testing by the China develpoed CNC control system.
Later on it will be equiped by C11 ( from CNC4PC ) and Mach3 ( from ARTSOFT ).?Thank you for big support! :)
Let's see how it's work.
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Double S,
Nice! So, is it now official that KX1-PC will be out in the market soon and will be using Mach3 and C11 board?
Great job.
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Dear CNCwt,
Definitely KX1-PC with Mach 3 version will come soon.
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You have a very nice looking mill :) It would be nice if the Mill could run off USB ;D
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Did you get te configure all the functions? Spinlde Control, Safety Charge Pump, Coolant Pump?
Thanks,
Arturo Duncan
http://cnc4pc.com
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Looking at the pictures, I think it is working off the ethernet card of the PC. And if I am not mistaken, the KX1-PC is using the same size of the X1. Maybe, we can have additional details.
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Question for Double S ?
Yiping, what is that in your left hand ?
By the way whats with the Double S sign on name?
Sturmbahnfurher Sparkling ? ;D
Sieg Sparkling ? ;D
P Riedie.
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Sparkling,
How are you doing? P Riedie blew your cover :)
Arturo Duncan
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Interesting time indeed.
P Riedie (ArcEuro?) - I think that is an MPG in the left hand of Double S. See picture below. And btw, Manila is in the Philippines and not Indonesia :)
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Interesting time indeed.
P Riedie (ArcEuro?) - I think that is an MPG in the left hand of Double S. See picture below. And btw, Manila is in the Philippines and not Indonesia :)
Sorry Weedy for the geographical error and no, not ArcEuro, as far as I know both Ketan and John S post under their own names.
I don't sell machines, I run 5 machines commercially.
PR.
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Hi P Riedie,
No problem with the geographical error. It happens to the best of us even.
Maybe it is best you take a vacation here in Manila so that you will remember its beautiful beaches and sceneries :)
Nice to know you are running 5 machines commercially. I believe I can learn a lot from you as I am a rank amateur when it comes to machining. I may bother you in the future when I run into problems especially doing 3D CAD drawing of irregular shape moulds. That is, if you will allow me ;D
Also, amazingly, you do know a lot about Double S and the recent Manila exhibit ;)
Weedy
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Sparkling,
How are you doing? P Riedie blew your cover :)
Arturo Duncan
Dear Mr.Duncan
Nice to see you here. I guess " Double S " is well know, because everyone knows.
Regards,
Double S
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The spindle speed is controlled by the PC, so no need to change the spindle speed manually.
At the back of the column, you will see the PCB which control the spindle speed.
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The Z axis step motor and the Y axis step motor have been installed in the back of the column.
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Question for Double S ?
Yiping, what is that in your left hand ?
By the way whats with the Double S sign on name?
Sturmbahnfurher Sparkling ? ;D
Sieg Sparkling ? ;D
P Riedie.
Dear P Riedie,
You must be one of my friend. How could you know it's me ???
Interesting.
Double S
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Hello Weedy,
Saw my name mentioned earlier so just registered now to say that I always post under my own name.
Thanks, Ketan at ARC.
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Sparkling,
Hi, Nice layout of the machine.
I like the way you have copied the free design service from Arc and myself 8)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/stevenson.engineers/lsteve/X3/x%20axis2.jpg)
Does this one have angular contact bearings inside ?
John S.
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Hello Ketan,
Nice to see you here. I apologized if it seems to appear that I am insinuating anyone is posting under a different name. No intention of that sort as I do not know everyone and I am trying to know who is who :)
Anyhow, have a good day and I am enjoying the pictures posted by Double S.
Best regards,
Weedy
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Greetings all,
Have you noticed how only one question gets answered out of three ?
Arturo asked if it used the charge pump circuit for safety and I'd like to ask if this machine and the SX3 CNC is being offered to Syil for resale as they infer in there posts on CNC Zone that they will be carrying these ?
P Riedie.
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Sparkling,
Is that the DOS based controller that I saw on Red Bull's stand at the China export show recently.
If not can you share what operating system it runs on DOS, Linux or Windows ?
Thanks
John S.
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Hello Ladies & Gentlemen (have to be politically correct :),
If you don't mind, may I be allowed to answer some of the questions posted here as I know some of the details as it pertains to the CNCed X3 and X1.
1) Arturo Duncan's questions - specifically, I know Arturo was asking if this KX1-PC was implementing the safety charge pump, spindle control and coolant pump using his C11 board. The answer is no (as it pertains to the C11 board) as this KX1-PC is presently being tested under the Chinese developed cnc software controller using the ethernet interface. Whether the Chinese cnc controller implements these functions (SCHP, spindle control & coolant pump), I have no idea as I still have to play with one. Double S - maybe it's time to send me one so that I can play with it :)
2) John S' question - The Red Bull controller is indeed using the DOS OS while the Sieg Chinese developed cnc controller is running under Windows XP/2000 using the ethernet interface. To add to that, as far as I know, the Chinese developed cnc controller is intended for the China market while the rest of the world will have the Mach3 software controller. Double S, kindly correct me if I am wrong.
3) P Riedie's questions - this, indeed, is a very political loaded question :) What Syil supposedly infers may be a language communication perception or mis-perception. I can understand the underlying Chinese language idiosyncrasies but I can not represent Sieg to give a definitive answer. Sorry!
Thanks and have a good day all,
Weedy
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Oops, it is rather stupid of me not to notice that Double S had clearly indicated in one of the pictures posted that the Spindle is controlled by the software controller. Also, Estop is implemented and GCode implementation is Fanuc compatible.
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3) P Riedie's questions - this, indeed, is a very political loaded question :) What Syil supposedly infers may be a language communication perception or mis-perception. I can understand the underlying Chinese language idiosyncrasies but I can not represent Sieg to give a definitive answer. Sorry!
Thanks and have a good day all,
Weedy
I think the word you are looking for is not perception or mis-perception but mis - direction ;D
One can't help but see the added value they are getting linking to Sieg's name.
Thanks for the reply on the controller.
John S.
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John S.
I think you are being very, very perceptive over Syil's marketing , possibly missed by Sieg because of translation or other differences.
When they advertise their current machine it's advertised as an X3 converted to CNC, note the X3 term. Now Syil don't make the X3, Sieg does. Now when they sell this converted machine they even list it on their web site as being approved by Sieg.
" We have been become SIEG products CNC update support manufact-ure. We also provide original SIEG parts to equip your machines."
Whilst things are going right that's fine but look on CNC Zone at all the bad press they get, no documentation, slow to follow up, poor service and what stands out?
Not Syil but that it's a Sieg X3
Do a Google on Syil and the second hit says price increase for the X3. No the X3 hasn't increased in price but the Syil equipped machine has but Sieg are getting the blame.
Now if they buy the CNC ready machine they have to do even less, in fact they will become resellers and their lack of support will reflect worse.
If the machine shown is only available in he Chinese market then OK it won't affect the west but if a Mach 3 machine is released here then it could affect Siegs sales on both manual and CNC machines.
PR.
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Dear All,
The Chinese control system could be operated by windows.
The control board will use ethernet to connect the PC and the control box since almost every laptop has this port.
Double S
( Sparkling )
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So, this has been over 6 months now. Is this machine available retail anywhere in the USA yet? Looks like a good alternative to Sherline and Taig systems, so I am investigating. Thanks!