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Title: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 13, 2017, 11:03:18 AM
I have a mixed background Machinist, Manufacturing Engineer, Robotics and Automation, and 27+ years of software development experience.
I now am semi retired and have a shop in my garage.

Velox CNC Router, with a CandCNC Controller (that I have converted into a Tri-Purpose machine)
   Routing ( with a precision aluminum vacuum table )
   Plasmas Cutting (including a Dual Chamber Water Table which is tucked under the router table )
   Engraver

I was disappointed with the default screens that came with Mach. I also wanted to be able to control all of my CNC support equipment from my gcode (Dust Collector, Vacuum Table, Fume Extractor, Fume Divertor, Plasma Cutter, Laser Crosshairs, etc)
So I wanted to add at least 8 relays to the setup.

Since my run times were 24+ hours I wanted to be able to email status of the system and related information.

I looked at some of the existing offerings and decided that I would create what I now call SmartScreens for Mach 3
I have created about 60% of the Core functionality and have tested it extensively. Now I will continue to finish the balance of the functionality.

My goal was to build intelligence into the screens to make it easy to use, to make them SmartScreens not just screens that look better.
I also wanted to finally have an uncluttered, organized, uniform user interface. I know that you cannot see any of the intelligence from screen shots... I am happy to answer questions, accept constructive criticism, design suggestions, Must Have Features.

Let me know what you think and what functionality is most important to you.

Thank you

I could only attach 4 screenshots so there is more to see
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: garyhlucas on May 13, 2017, 01:50:51 PM
Michael,
I have a homebuilt multi-purpose machine as well. It is a vertical and horizontal mill. with a 4th axis, a horizontal and vertical lathe, and a 3d printer. I have air blow off, mist buster coolant, and shop vac connected.

I really like what I see. It is very clean, well organized, and lots of useful functionality. I'd like learn more about your screen set and what your plans are for it.
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 14, 2017, 05:37:14 AM
Thank you, I have put a lot of time and effort into these screens.

I currently finishing some new "Smart" functionality.
The first released version (which is currently my 7th version) will have all of the "Core" functionality, with as much "Smart" functionality as I can cram into it.   
My plan is to make these screens available to a limited number of users (25 or so) at no cost. 
For those who provide the most useful feedback they will receive a license for the finished product at no cost.

What I know for sure is that how I use my equipment is not exactly how others use theirs, I want to understand what is lacking in the "Core" and "Smart" functionality before I add some very "Advanced" functionality.

Up till now my design criteria has come from my own frustration... with how things operate or don't operate.
Also reading the frustration of other users like me in posts dating back 10+ years... With no resolution in site.

I want the users who receive this to really want to provide feedback positive or negative.
For me my hobby is my passion and I want these to be the best that they can be.

Title: I have successfully replaced the Mach 3 Tool and Offset forms
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 18, 2017, 03:50:15 PM
This new feature of SmartScreens will read and Write the standard Mach 3 information.
No import or export required. Our forms read and write existing so they are 100% compatible.

We even corrected so of the "inconsistencies" with the existing forms.
I could be wrong but I do not think any other screen offerings provide this level of integration.

Take a look

Tell me your thoughts
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 18, 2017, 04:25:44 PM
Here are screensshots of both forms
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 18, 2017, 04:48:26 PM
If you notice our screen recommends that if you use our screens you don't use the standard Mach forms...
We do that because there are some "inconsistencies" that we found when we were investigating how this all works.
Like we said it is 100% compatible, we just think ours is a little better.
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 24, 2017, 12:56:19 PM
Here is the Lathe Tool Version of the replacement Tool Grid which is part of the SmartScreen System I developing

It allows me direct access to the information one row at a time or the entire table in both read and write without having to open this grid or the default Mach 3 grid.
This allows me to over come may hurdles in creating a screen set that is New and Different.

I am currently adding the ability to save the Work Offset, Tool and Lathe Tool information to a delimited CSV, or Printable Text file formats

Any thoughts or comments are welcome
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: RICH on May 24, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
Never mix front and rear tooling in Mach....Rear uses work offset G55.
Also note that the table axis offsets are in radii values irrelevant of the mode you will be operating.

Just some additional comments on lathe geometry outside of the Mach enviroment.
Most CNC programs require additional information for the tooling via a drawing of the tool or providing additional info to avoid gouging when
generating the toolpaths. The programs are similar but different.

Tip orientation is required in Mach3 when using compensation ( not for this dude as manual coding is not done).But the direction can be used to help populate another table for later use if so desired.

Turret orientation and associated angle in degrees.
Tip compensation depending on how touched off tip center or precompenstaed code based on cutting edge.Then you need to cover basic inserts types along with tolerance diameter, etc. Manual sharpened tooling needs to be measured.

Major "to do" in populating the table are x and z offsets, but depending on how touched off / probed, require an easy way to just modify the offsets for drills, reamers, etc.

Thoughts for later on ....., ;)

RICH
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: RICH on May 24, 2017, 03:56:30 PM
Quote
adding the ability to save the Work Offset
Consider what for or why?

Are you meaning tool offset?
Work Offset ( G54, G5...... ) is distance from controlled point ( home / referenced ) to stock and have yet to ever need more than 6 offsets. The work offset is used for multiple turning using the same code and offsets for using live tooling when drilling off center or whatever.
Simple one here, my home is always the same as machine coordinate x and z=0 and conveniently also tool change position.
Switches on a lathe are like things on a bull. ;D  But I work different...others may differ in opinion. ::)

RICH
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on May 24, 2017, 10:09:23 PM
I agree on the work offset...
I never use more than 3 but...

Mach has the ability to do 253 so I do not want to take away functionality
Besides  writing code for 6 rows is not really different that writing for 253 rows.

I created the spreadsheet screens to make the first 6 or so of everything readily available and with a consistent, uncluttered, easy to use interface. The grids will only be used if you need something more than that.

My setups vary a lot. I am constantly jogging the machine here or there... So I made positions I need ( and I have seen on other posts and screen sets ) they are all in one spot, easy to create, modify, verify and use.
I also have MCodes for the predefined positions so I just post process them out when I do my GCode

Because I have such long run times my parts typically finish in the middle of the night.
So I have a 2 HP Dust Collector, a 7 HP Compressor, a 1 HP Vacuum Table Pump, and a Hypertherm 85 Plasma cutter etc... Running so my electric bill was through the roof. this way I can turn something on when its needed, turn it off when its not. and shut everything down including the virtual computer running Mach and the host computer. Its saving me $55 a month on my electric bill.

An Example of one of my projects
http://mygarageshop.com/projects/3d-sculpture/customer-as-the-hulk/

Honestly  I appreciate the information about how differently you use your equipment. That is EXACTLY what I am looking for.
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: RICH on May 24, 2017, 10:22:53 PM
EMAIL sent to you with comments for YOUR use.

BTW, Some in my family  believe  electric is free as the meter just measures how much they are giving away.
Maybe you should look into getting one of the  new meters.  ::)

RICH
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on January 13, 2018, 11:59:50 AM
Its ready

http://ngeneyes.com/smartscreen/licensing/
Title: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on January 14, 2019, 09:37:17 AM
https://ngeneyes.com/smartscreens-for-mach-3/

MyGarageShop
SmartScreens Screenset
https://ngeneyes.com/smartscreens-for-mach-3/
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: stampro01 on January 27, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
I was looking for auto probing ! and i found smart screens60 days trial! that included the edge finder!  i have surprise with the screens ! (!)  very very very good job !
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on January 27, 2019, 06:40:03 PM
Thank you for the compliment.

If you are interested you can see some useful videos about SmartScreens for Mach3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlXikOPHbw&list=PLWsUrsslLzpzUndi-ln5mgWUnmVP8dAbw
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on January 27, 2019, 07:01:12 PM
I made this for me, I use it everyday. https://mygarageshop.com/ I have a mixed background software development and robotics / automation. I felt like I needed more that what was available. So I created it. It is so much more than just a ScreenSet. It is and Extension to Mach3 (or whatever other environment I connect it to, Mach4 is next on the list) The SmartScreen Utilities as a separate executable that communicates with Mach3 using a Windows COM Interface.
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on June 24, 2019, 05:01:21 PM
Finally our ScreenSet... SmartScreens for Mach3 is on Newfangled's website.  Its free for 60 days, then just $10 to $30 dollars depending on what version fits you best.
This is not new it has been around for 2 years, but it took a long time to make it available from here.

Download it here:
https://www.machsupport.com/downloads-updates/screensets/

If you already own it: Get the latest version here...
We are always updating and improving this.
https://ngeneyes.com/download/smartscreens/SmartScreens-Installation.zip

Helpful Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MyGarageShopChannel/playlists?reload=9

We use this ourselves, everyday, see what we make:
 https://mygarageshop.com/
Title: Finally our ScreenSet... SmartScreens for Mach3 is on Newfangled's website.
Post by: MyGarageShop on June 24, 2019, 05:02:18 PM
Finally our ScreenSet... SmartScreens for Mach3 is on Newfangled's website.  Its free for 60 days, then just $10 to $30 dollars depending on what version fits you best.
This is not new it has been around for 2 years, but it took a long time to make it available from here.

Download it here:
https://www.machsupport.com/downloads-updates/screensets/

If you already own it: Get the latest version here...
We are always updating and improving this.
https://ngeneyes.com/download/smartscreens/SmartScreens-Installation.zip

Helpful Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/user/MyGarageShopChannel/playlists?reload=9

We use this ourselves, everyday, see what we make:
 https://mygarageshop.com/
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on August 13, 2019, 06:59:37 PM
Some helpful videos about SmartScreens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlXikOPHbw&list=PLWsUrsslLzpzUndi-ln5mgWUnmVP8dAbw
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: marky68 on March 01, 2020, 05:45:50 PM
Hi,

After using the triple edge finder and starting your program can the Smartscreens complete a manual tool change during the program and set auto tool height using a fixed probe in a position away from the job.

I understand one or two older versions of other screens had this built in and wondered if yours does, I couldn't see any mention of this in the helpful videos.



Some helpful videos about SmartScreens.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUlXikOPHbw&list=PLWsUrsslLzpzUndi-ln5mgWUnmVP8dAbw
Title: Re: Mach3 SmartScreens Screenset - Now Available
Post by: MyGarageShop on March 02, 2020, 07:39:25 AM
This is a standard AutoTool Setting function which is located on the settings page. (see attachment) This is there only till the next release of the product which includes a complete set of Conventional Probing functions. (see second attachment) If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact use at Support@nGeneYes.com
Title: Re: SmartScreens for Mach 3
Post by: MyGarageShop on July 03, 2021, 03:26:35 AM
This is more than a ScreenSet, it is an extension to Mach3 Functionality
We are always improving and adding new functionality

Fully Automated Triple Edge Finder Probing / Homing
https://youtu.be/FUlXikOPHbw

Smart WiFi relay control from GCode or the User Interface
You can even use our advanced features WITHOUT changing your current ScreenSet
https://youtu.be/CDJU-4Wi5y0

Download it here:
https://www.machsupport.com/downloads-updates/screensets/

If you already own it: Get the latest version here...
We are always updating and improving this.
https://ngeneyes.com/download/smartscreens/SmartScreens-Installation.zip

Helpful Videos:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWsUrsslLzpzUndi-ln5mgWUnmVP8dAbw

We use this ourselves, everyday, see what we make:
 https://mygarageshop.com/