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Title: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on June 17, 2007, 12:38:58 AM
Hello Galil people...
I have been working for a router OEM on a galil for the past few days and I must say that I have it working better now then EVER!!!! I am running 3 axis and a tool changer (wine rack) .I will release a new plugin after I get back home, I think it will get everyone all fixed up :) .
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: panga on August 03, 2007, 05:45:05 PM
Hi Brian I have a router using an older galil DMC-1040 card.  can I use mach3? ???
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on August 04, 2007, 09:07:53 AM
You are welcome to install it and try... Tell me if the card works for you :)
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: gromit68 on October 17, 2007, 10:38:54 AM
I have installed a DMC 1760, established communication with galil's smart term, sent commands, downloaded a program, verified encoder movement.
fantastic. I installed mach3, and mach3 shows communication established with the dmc 1760.
great. I can't seem to find any info on how to configure mach3 specific to galil products.
This project is urgent :)
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: dmerrll on October 18, 2007, 05:57:00 PM
gromit68 I have installed both dmc1730optima- isa non-pnp and dmc1842 econo pci. Currently have no IO enabled because I needed to run some parts. So far everyting works okay exept the DRO screen in the curren config with the 1842. Of course this is a different Comp. I wanted to use something ffaster than my old isa bus machine which was 378 socket 1.3 Ghz.
As fars as getting to cutting speeds accurately with my old analog amps, running in velocity mode, I seem to be at 50ipm limit to be within a thou. My spindle is only capable of 3500rpm so 35ipm is max for me anyway in Alum. This is an old Kent mill (BP clone just heavier). So for right now I am using Alibrecam( watered down visualmill5) with Mach2 post. Mach3 post does not work from mechsoft! I do have to check the code and remove a few inconsistent lines "G43 0" "M3 53000" then runit! Works much better thatn Wingcnc and Camsoft CNClite out of the box. Also in Motor tuning seems my encoder counts have to be increased (linear scales 2540 ppi) to 2546 to be accurate in 4.000" to the thou.  Somehow this works but I do not know why. I'll post more as I add IO's
Anybody know why greyed out DRO screen?
David in Hillsborough
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: gromit68 on October 19, 2007, 09:08:56 AM
dmerrll -- thanks for the response! I have searched for very basic info and have been unable to find online. I have posted on multiple bulletin boards with limited success. I do not know how to specify to mach3 details of the dmc 1760. For example, the port address: is it one of the adresses in the range that appears in the setup page where I defined the IRQ for the card? I don't know how the printer port pin assignments relate to my ICM-2900 breakout box terminals. Galil has no info on how mach3 interacts, and from the mach3 side, well, there's no documentation yet. In other words, I am missing the very basic fundamentals of the setup. I can do the servo tuning, but I need to get to that point. Is there any chance you can call?
Thanks for the help.

-Jon --- cell 724-986-4726
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on October 19, 2007, 09:07:50 PM
You need to have the Galil registered on your system before you can use Mach3 to move the device...
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: bratvold on November 02, 2007, 12:01:58 AM
Brian, what Galil servo product would you say your current plung-in development is best suited to? What was that router OEM using that you mentioned at the top of the post?  Greg
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on November 02, 2007, 08:17:28 AM
Wehave been working with the 18xx and the 21xx
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: gromit68 on November 05, 2007, 04:38:09 PM
Hi Brian

Any news on the solution for my DMC1760? The urgency has somewhat passed, but this is still a need I have.

thanks, Jon
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: bratvold on November 05, 2007, 05:05:24 PM
Hey Panga, See you're dabling with the DMC1040. I did a mill retrofit with a DMC 1040 back in 94! I picked up a low dollar DMC 630 and I'd be interested in chatting with ya about what you learn in trying Mach 3 with the DMC1040. Email me some time. Greg.
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on November 05, 2007, 07:26:03 PM
There is a user on the group that would like to have a look at the code so as soon as he gets VS2003 we are going to start back in on the code... I have had to much work! I get an OEM done that is about 800 Mach3's per year! I have told them that I will not do anymore work for them for the rest of the year! I owe you guys about 3 months of work on Galil and Lcam. So that is my plan No new WORK!

I am so sorry I have been working non stop for to long :(
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on November 11, 2007, 09:12:20 AM
The First Update to the Galil code is on the Web (Rev 2.058.0)... Please download the new plugin and I think it should fix many of the problems that you my be having at this time. There is a bit more work that needs to be done with useing Step and Direction with the Galil and the Extended IO, I have to wire up the mill to test that section of code and that is going to take me a bit to get that done :( I hope to get to it very soon.

thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: gromit68 on April 30, 2008, 03:31:03 PM
I never did get my galil to work with mach3. If anyone is interested, I can supply the pc with galil card, and icm module. Ship the mess to you, you configure so that mach 3 controls analog servos and i/o through the ICM. Return to me. I write check. Sweet. If interested, quote me a price, and we go from there. Email me at grimm_machine@verizon.net. thanks. Jon
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: kcrouch on May 01, 2008, 05:50:20 PM
You can get in touch with me at 978 683 3256 or e-mail me at the address in my profile. I have Galil running OK. Can probably help You out too. I'm in Massachusetts. Where are You located?
Kenny
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: sivaraj on June 20, 2008, 08:05:54 AM
Hi Brain,
We have Galil-1850 with Camsoft on a Gantry type 3-axis mill.
X-axis having Master/slave (X/U) configuration.
Spindle with 256ppr encoder.No ATC.
Five encoder feedbacks- X,Y,Z,U & S + one Handwheel 100ppr
Eager to know whether Mach3-galilĀ  plugin work on this configuration mainly the master/slave configuration .Of course galil card supports this function .
Thanks
sivaraj

Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on June 21, 2008, 01:00:28 AM
Hello,
The only thing that I have not added is the support for the MPG.. I have an MPG about 10" away form getting connected ;)

The master slave should work like a champ...

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: sivaraj on June 21, 2008, 01:25:53 AM
Thank you.
In download section there two vesion available for download Mach3 R2.63 & Mach3Mach3 Dev. Update R3.041.
Which version should I try for galil setup.
Is there any document which explain Mach-3/Galil-18xx setup/configuration
Sivaraj
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on June 21, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
Hello,
I would just use Rev 2.063 to test.. You also need to get the Galil plugin from the plugins page. To install the plugin you need to download and double click the m3p file. Once you have that all installed you will need to setup the slaving and restart Mach3. As soon as you have done that you should be all set for some jogging tests :)

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: sivaraj on April 28, 2009, 07:55:26 AM
Hello Brain,
I installed the latest Mach3 and Galil plug in.
Galil's Smart terminal could communicates and Mach3 shows "Galil communication begun!!".
I am getting the "Galil error 46 Gear axis both Master and follower" .But no clue on what is wrong.
I have have selected X-axis as master for the 4th axis(slave)  from config .

Our card type is Galil pci 1850.
5-Main encoder inputs and 5- Aux encoder inputs.
All main encoders are connected for XYZ4 & S.
Now 100ppr MPG is connected to 5th auxilary encoder.Will this work or should I move to MPG connection to aux.encoder 1,2 or 3
Thanks
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on April 28, 2009, 08:11:24 AM
Sounds like a problem with the gearing in the slave axis section of code.. I will see if I can look at it at some point..
Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: smurph on April 28, 2009, 11:25:20 AM
In the Plugin Configuration, do you have the auxiliary encoder checked?  e.g.  MPG1 = A and the aux check box.

Also, try running the plugin without the MPG configured.  Set MPG1, MPG2, and MPG3 to -1.  And uncheck any aux check boxes.  This should disable any MPG code and then we can see if you are still getting the "Galil error 46 Gear axis both Master and follower" error.

And while you are in the Plugin config, enable the debug output check box.  This creates a GalilDebug.txt file in the PlugIns directory.  Then restart Mach and try to connect.  If you get the error 46, exit mach and send me the GalilDebug.txt file at smurph@smcomp.com

Steve


Steve
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: Brian Barker on April 28, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
<G> Steve... I was thinking that I would look at that for you :) You are the man!
Thank you again for all you have done on this.. you truly are the Galil master at this point  ;D

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: kcrouch on April 28, 2009, 11:41:14 AM
The error that you are getting is normal when the MPG input axis is selected as an output axis in either the Tab-out screen or by a brain file. The error is just a notification that the input and output are currently configured to the same axis, and does not cause an operational problem. Try setting the controlled axis in the tabout screen to something other than the mpg input and everything should work OK. The error message will appear again if you are toggling through the controlled axes with the tab-out screen, when you get to the output axes that is specified for the MPG input. Disabling the MPG will make the message go away, but you will then have no MPG function. The MPG jumps over any mapped axes.
Kenny
Title: Re: Mach3 and Galil ... Getting better
Post by: sivaraj on April 29, 2009, 08:27:23 AM
Thank you Mr.Steve.
After disabling handwheel the error disappeared.
Now I am trying to understand Mach/Galil IO interface before posting more question
Sivaraj