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Mach Discussion => Mach4 General Discussion => Topic started by: armature on April 09, 2016, 04:47:10 AM

Title: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: armature on April 09, 2016, 04:47:10 AM
please i need your help

 I'm building small CNC router and trying to run the motors before start building the machine

my hardware as follow:
-  ESS- Ethernet_Smoothstepper
- C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1,
-  BL-TB6600-V1.2, stepper motor driver module
- 3 stepper motor 1.5A, NEMA17, KL17H248-15-4A
- Power supply 24VDC, 10A

i'm using Mach4 demo version. i have connected the hardware and configured Mach4 and ESS for 2 motors only  

I start using G-code file which include in Mach4 but there is no action happen in the motors

 attached hardware connection and configuration
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: dude1 on April 09, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
you need a E stop to start with ESS needs it
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 09, 2016, 06:28:01 AM
I hope you don't mind a suggestion but just an observation regarding wiring...

When you come to wiring-up the actual machine, it would be best if you don't 'daisy-chain' the power connections to your stepper drivers (each driver should be wired directly back to the PSU terminals).

Tweakie.
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: cncman172 on April 09, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
Armature,
I can not tell from the picture but the C25 board actually needs power, and it can be down two different ways.   If you move the jumps on the ESS to allow the power to flow through P1 and P2 then the C25 does get the required power, you can verify by using a meter between the Ground Terminals and the 5V terminal on the C25 board.  If you forgot to adjust the ESS jumpers to allow that power to flow the motors will not move.  Blockhead also mentioned you need to define the ESTOP, for testing you can just use a wire jumper from ground to the ESTOP pin, i defined mine as P15, you had to declare this inside of MACH4 under inputs.  The second way to provide 5V power to the C25 board is to run the power directly into the GND and 5V terminals.

Russ
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: DazTheGas on April 10, 2016, 03:52:13 AM
Mach4 or ESS does not require an estop configured to function, i dont have one configured myself, my estop is between 24v - tokill all motors regardless of what mach4 says.
The c25 can be powered from the ESS but then you have to remember what current you draw through the c25 comes from the ESS.
I have never yet connected the enable pins on a driver yet they seem to be ok without it.

with this I would look at first makin sure the c25 has power and trying without the enable wires connected.

DazTheGas
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: dude1 on April 10, 2016, 04:20:16 AM
Daz haveing a kill power on the stepper power can blow your stepper drivers it needs to be on the control enable disable.

also some BOBS need a Estop and a some stepper driver require a enable

all mine do
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: DazTheGas on April 10, 2016, 05:06:28 AM
Sorry didnt sound right, my estop is on the neutral 230v so hitting estop discharges the 24v psu.

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BOBS need a Estop and a some stepper driver require a enable
yes suppose I was just thinkin of my own setup, however the c25 has no mention of needin estop to run.

Double checked the TB6600HG ic and your right it does req a high signal to enable the driver ;-)

DazTheGas
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: dude1 on April 10, 2016, 05:31:02 AM
that's better Daz its something that surprised me, I did not think you put it correct, and the TB6600HG ic can be 50/50 depending on who made them, armature they may be Dead if the C25 enable does not get them going if the C25 only needs a enable, I will look at the manual my self
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: armature on April 10, 2016, 06:14:50 AM
I have tried to active E-stop but still same problem
but i think i got the reason but i don't know how can i solved
there is no 5V coming from port#1 in C25 terminal board to supply the stepper drive board (Tb6600)
once i supply 5V to the stepper drive board (Tb6600) from ESS the motor running.
So please How can active this 5V in port#1 in C25 terminal board?
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: DazTheGas on April 10, 2016, 06:19:33 AM
You need JP2 enabled on the ESS

DazTheGas
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: armature on April 10, 2016, 06:42:59 AM
 :) once i enabled JP2 on the ESS the motors run
thanks guys for your support
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: dude1 on April 10, 2016, 06:43:54 AM
good stuff
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: cncman172 on April 10, 2016, 09:48:36 AM
Armature,

Like I said in Post #3, you are most likely missing the 5V power to the C25 board.  This can be done two ways, either by changing jumpers on the ESS to allow the 5V to flow out LPT1 and LPT2 on the ESS board so the breakout board is powered.  OR, you can wire the power directly to the breakout board.  The last is probably the better way because the ESS is limited by the amount of current it can supply, but in a normal setting there is not much power consumed by the C25, but if you attached items to the C25 that draw power that could add to the load so it is best to just wire the 5V directly to the C25 board as DaZ mentioned as well.

Russ
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: Christine88 on August 28, 2016, 03:52:09 PM
Armature,
I can not tell from the picture but the C25 board actually needs power, and it can be down two different ways.   If you move the jumps on the ESS to allow the power to flow through P1 and P2 then the C25 does get the required power, you can verify by using a meter between the Ground Terminals and the 5V terminal on the C25 board.  If you forgot to adjust the ESS jumpers to allow that power to flow the motors will not move.  Blockhead also mentioned you need to define the ESTOP, for testing you can just use a wire jumper from ground to the ESTOP pin, i defined mine as P15, you had to declare this inside of MACH4 under inputs.  The second way to provide 5V power to the C25 board is to run the power directly into the GND and 5V terminals.

Russ


Which jumpers on the ESS smoothstepper need to be set?
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on August 29, 2016, 01:39:33 AM
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Which jumpers on the ESS smoothstepper need to be set?

The pin26, 5V jumpers - but it depends on how you are powering the BoB please read the ESS documentation here; http://www.warp9td.com/index.php/documentation/doc-ess

Tweakie.
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: Christine88 on August 29, 2016, 06:10:40 AM
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Which jumpers on the ESS smoothstepper need to be set?

The pin26, 5V jumpers - but it depends on how you are powering the BoB please read the ESS documentation here; http://www.warp9td.com/index.php/documentation/doc-ess

Tweakie.

I'm powering the BOB off the Smoothstepper.  I think everything is setup right but I'm having problems configuring Mach4.  I have the latest version of Smoothstepper plugin but the manual is for the earlier version which shows completely different screens than what the latest plugin provides.  So I'm left to guessing which is getting me no where. 
Title: Re: MACH4, ESS, C25 smoth stepper terminal board V3.1, AND BL-TB6600-V1.2 problem
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on August 29, 2016, 06:39:16 AM
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I'm powering the BOB off the Smoothstepper.  I think everything is setup right but I'm having problems configuring Mach4.  I have the latest version of Smoothstepper plugin but the manual is for the earlier version which shows completely different screens than what the latest plugin provides.  So I'm left to guessing which is getting me no where.  

The reply given in this thread should answer your question. http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,33180.msg230397.html#msg230397

Tweakie.