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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: ozwes007 on April 25, 2015, 09:02:31 PM

Title: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 25, 2015, 09:02:31 PM
Im having an issue with copycat and probing a circle.
I have Mach3 .3.043.066 and when doing 3d PROBE from the menu of Mach3 it works at the speed that i set probing in CopyCat(this is good, so i can alter it for large circle and small circle probing)
This works fine. ;D
However, if i go to probe in Copycat (circle centre probe) it moves exactly 4mm then stops and reverses etc etc. On looking at the code in the Copycat screen it says
Code "G91 G31Y 4 F" &ProbeFeed
which should move in the y + direction for 4 seconds or until it hits the wall of the circle.

Thats bad :-\
Any one have ideas, is it a bug?, have I missed a setup config. setting? Am i just missing something entirely? Or does the G91(set Distance mode) turn the G31Y4 into a pure distance operation?

I will investigate G31 as soon as I find some info on it. First time I've used/seen it
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: RICH on April 25, 2015, 09:22:56 PM
Haven't used CopyCat in some time but don't remember having any problems  with it as you described.
May be a .066 version issue...I don't know.

May want to review what is in the manual.

RICH
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 25, 2015, 10:17:09 PM
hi Rich.
Just tried it on my .067 build demo machine(one i use for Writing code) and I get the same error/inconsistency.
However .067 doesn't have 3D Probe on the menu.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: BR549 on April 25, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
Code "G91 G31Y 4 F" &ProbeFeed

That does NOT mean travel for 4 seconds it means travel for 4 units (mm or Inch) unless it trips then stop.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 25, 2015, 11:10:44 PM
I'm just catching up, on the G31 command, first reference I looked at wasn't Mach specific. Sorry about that.
So back to the original problem, how do we alter the 4mm reference in the Copycat without altering the code each time? Or is this a programming error/bug ? And do we need to put in a user input that asks for a dimension that is a little bigger then were probing for? Eg. I do holes from 10mm to 104mm in size and probing is fast and efficient at locating the centre of them., so putting in (for example) 60mm to probe 104mm therefore allowing for the probe to be off centre by 8mm in any direction?(or 110mm for diameter )
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: BR549 on April 26, 2015, 12:10:35 AM
What version of copycat are you using ? Last I new Copycats code was password protected. Did you crack the password ??

(;-) TP
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 26, 2015, 01:00:34 AM
Im using CopyCat 1.10, and i just opened it in MachScreen to view the macro on the start button. definitely not locked that I can see. If this is an issue I will contact German Bravo or NFS direct I guess. I have played with it and have it working with Mods, however I never post without getting Designers OK beforehand, and always after they have checked it is up to there standards.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: RICH on April 26, 2015, 08:02:00 AM
Are you using a video camera to probe the inside of the circle?

I have a big red note on the instructions given on page 14 of the CopyCat v1.1 NFS User Manual.
See also page 12. The circle is used with  VIDEO. The other is used with a probe.

RICH
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 26, 2015, 08:29:22 AM
No, the probe section is the one I'm  using. The one on the left hand side.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: BR549 on April 26, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
You are correct (;-)  Mach Screen WILL open the button codes. HUMMM , so much for password protection.

It used to give a message about being protected code.

OH well,  it is what it is I guess.

You can make the  G31 travel distance a variable then add a simple DRO to the screen so that you can set the distance. You could change the value to the Max distance you would ever use BUT if it missed the hit it could crash the probe. Best to have it as a safeguard for overtravel.

Also IF you were just using the wizard code to find the center of a circle there are Mcodes around that can do that as well. They are also programable as to travel distance.

(;-) TP

Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozwes007 on April 26, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
So what I did was altered the button code slightly to take the hole diameter from the first page and add 20% to it , if there was no Diameter it will set it to 8mm(4mm Travel in all directions) and pop up an information message advising of such.
The 20% should allow you to have the probe near to centre! If some one from NFS wants to contact me I'll send through the altered screenset and they can chuck, change or use it if they want.
And yes I have buggered a probe or two over the years TP, usually from not raising the Z axis after probing:-)
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: mikemach on June 03, 2016, 05:30:53 AM
Are there any instruction manuals for CopyCat as I can't find any. I am unable to make sense of the drill function I just get the message

 "Must make a feed or rapid move to hole"

I have tried every possible combination but I just keep getting this, rapid move and feeds record perfectly but can't get the drill function to work, any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on June 03, 2016, 06:41:06 AM
Are there any instruction manuals for CopyCat as I can't find any. I am unable to make sense of the drill function I just get the message

 "Must make a feed or rapid move to hole"

I have tried every possible combination but I just keep getting this, rapid move and feeds record perfectly but can't get the drill function to work, any help would be appreciated.

Do you have a valid Mach3 license and a valid Wizard license ?

Tweakie.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: ozymax on June 03, 2016, 06:50:21 AM
Rich has written a manual for Copycat. You can find it in the "Members Docs" section of the forum.
Title: Re: CopyCat Latest Version Probe issue
Post by: mikemach on June 03, 2016, 07:23:00 AM
Yes I have both licences. Thanks ozymax thats just what I needed, cheers.