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Mach Discussion => Mach SDK plugin questions and answers. => Topic started by: krw125 on April 01, 2015, 06:35:36 AM

Title: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 01, 2015, 06:35:36 AM
http://top-eb.fr/mach3fiveaxis/
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 02, 2015, 05:31:35 AM
Very impressive  :o

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: stirling on April 02, 2015, 05:54:59 AM
Hmmmm - April the first for this and your last post - I wonder  ::)
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 02, 2015, 07:06:13 AM
Hmmmm - April the first for this and your last post - I wonder  ::)

Ahh no - don't tell me I have been duped ( didn't notice the date  :-[ )

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 02, 2015, 08:03:32 AM
Hey, just found out it doesn't count if you fall for it the day after  ;)

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 02, 2015, 10:10:46 AM
Hi,
I am making the tutorial, i think it will be good for the week end!
 :)
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 02, 2015, 06:35:07 PM
Mach3 cannot do the Kinematics math (;-) How are you going to pull this one off?

Buyer Beware, (;-) TP

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 02, 2015, 09:21:07 PM
Yes, i'm agree with you, Mach3 cannot do the kinematics math, and i found it a pity.
This is the reason why i'm written this plugin.
So just for you, i posted a new video !!!
Have fun  ;)
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 03, 2015, 06:08:00 AM
Yes, i'm agree with you, Mach3 cannot do the kinematics math, and i found it a pity.
This is the reason why i'm written this plugin.
So just for you, i posted a new video !!!
Have fun  ;)


Just a question...
Do you plan on releasing your plugin for our community to try / use or are you planning to keep it to yourself ??

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 03, 2015, 07:18:38 AM
A demo version will be available with some limitations:
-no editor
-no aligning on B axis
-no parameters saving
People will be able to use with all others functions:
-probe center
-probe middle
-aligning on A axis
-probe x/y/z
-all mdi commands

A full version will be available for sale
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 03, 2015, 07:24:23 AM
Thank you for the information - I look forward to seeing the demo version.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: RICH on April 03, 2015, 07:31:20 AM
Reflection,
Not much for free exploration anymore......sometimes so much given but empty on the recieve.  :D

RICH
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 04, 2015, 10:45:03 AM
What format is the video I cannot play it.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 04, 2015, 10:59:45 AM
Mp4
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: ger21 on April 04, 2015, 11:38:21 AM
What format is the video I cannot play it.

(;-) TP

If you see the "spinning hourglass" after hitting the play button, click "pause" and wait about 10 minutes. I found the page to be incredibly slow loading.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: stirling on April 04, 2015, 11:48:57 AM
@krw125 - I see you've painted out the bit you missed. How's the purchase going?
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 04, 2015, 12:20:26 PM
it will be ok for  me on monday !

i'm going to change the player for Less slowness
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 04, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
OK are you running the sequence in Gcode or are you jogging ? I did not see anything that could not be done from Gcode  programmed from a 3d CAM.

NOW if you can world point jog you may have kinematics if you cannot world point jog you do not have kinematics.

Just a thought, (;-) TP
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 04, 2015, 02:13:24 PM
Gcode is not programmed from a 3d cam.
three way to have kinematics :
  -with mdi commands for a single move
  -jogging
  -with the editor to create sequence : the plugin calcul the toolpath and load them in mach3

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 04, 2015, 02:32:08 PM
the fisrt video was effectively with a cad cam software to show the virtualisation of my machine, it was before i got the idea to writte le plugin. The idea came when in my work, my boss bought a 5 axis machine the DMU 75 MONOBLOCK
It was so  fun to program directly, I was not able to resist to have the same moves whitout a cad cam sofware
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 04, 2015, 02:46:37 PM
i know a lot of people think it's not possible to have 5 axis kinematics with mach3, but wait the demo version and you could judge it ( two month an half of working to create the plugin)

thanks
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 09, 2015, 01:22:15 AM
Hi,
Sorry for the delay, the plugin will be available tomorrow.
Some changes since, you will have now the possibility to test the editor but with a limited lines numbers.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: dude1 on April 09, 2015, 01:56:43 AM
dude that really cool you just need to do it for M4 now
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 09, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
KRW, I did check and it IS theoretically possible to do it . But doing kinematics in Mach3 really ONLY has an advantage when working with rotary jointed arms such as robotic arms.  The only advantage it serves that I can see in normal CNC work is you can world point jog.

Normally the CAM does all the kinematics calculations and applies it to the Gcode output. SO to do most 5axis work you will still have to Cam it.

Waiting to see the demo, (;-) TP

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 10, 2015, 03:35:29 AM
Hi BR549,
Thanks for your interest but i'm sorry to say you that, but i think you dit not understand the aim of my plugin. I wrote this plugin to use kinematics moves to help us to position tools in differents plans with goods coordinates for precision milling like a real 5 axis milling machines without cad-cam software using (positionned milling,  not continuous milling). Not just for simple kinematics moves. A video will watch a real use of the plugin in the end of tutorial.
Best regards
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 10, 2015, 10:04:31 AM
You are correct(;-) I have no idea what you are planning. Without seeing the mach3 screen when the machine is in motion to see what code you are running it all looks the same from here.

(;-) TP

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 14, 2015, 06:18:40 AM
Hi,
the tutorial is online http://mach3fiveaxis.top-eb.fr/ (http://mach3fiveaxis.top-eb.fr/)

the download will be available this night.

thanks
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 14, 2015, 08:01:28 AM
Excellent tutorial and video's Krw125, my congratulations on your work.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 14, 2015, 10:23:11 PM
Hi,

The download is now available

top-eb.fr/mach3fiveaxis (http://top-eb.fr/mach3fiveaxis)

Have fun  :)
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: BR549 on April 14, 2015, 10:36:33 PM
Tweakie can you translate to me what he is doing ? I don't read French.

(;-)TP
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on April 15, 2015, 06:43:03 AM
Tweakie can you translate to me what he is doing ? I don't read French.

(;-)TP

Hi Terry,

I think you must have missed out during your school days  ;D

Just a suggestion but if you use Google Chrome then Google Translate will convert all the pages to English for you.



Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: stirling on April 15, 2015, 07:28:35 AM
or even if you don't use chrome, just copy the url into google translate and then click on the translated url et voila... tout sera révélé.  ;)
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on April 15, 2015, 10:15:33 AM
Oh! It's interesting, i will see if i can integrate the translator in my page.

Otherwise, in the next tutorial i will show you how we can integrate a gcode generated by the mach3 wizard in our plugin for making pocket cycle, drill cycle etc.. :)

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on November 15, 2015, 02:27:43 PM
hi,
new update of my 5 axis plugin in progressing,
Coming soon, demo version
this is the firt video

thanks

http://mach3fiveaxis.top-eb.fr/?page_id=575 (http://mach3fiveaxis.top-eb.fr/?page_id=575)

Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on November 16, 2015, 02:08:14 AM
Hi Krw125,

Excellent video - I am pleased to see you back here again.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on November 16, 2015, 08:56:30 AM
Hi Tweakie,
Thank you. I was not very far,  :D
My plugin was not complete, it's the reason why i've decided to incorporate a simulator.
Some people do not need a 5 axis that requires additionnal calculations, so for readons of optimizations two versions will be available, a 3 axis and 5 axis version.
There is still some works but i'm working on it.
I would add other videos as.

krw125.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on December 09, 2015, 09:32:12 PM
Hi,

new videos available

http://top-eb.fr/mach3fiveaxis/?page_id=575 (http://top-eb.fr/mach3fiveaxis/?page_id=575)

thanks
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on December 10, 2015, 01:49:28 AM
Video links not working (at least not for me).  :'(

Tweakie.
Title: Re: 5 axis kinematics coming soon !!!
Post by: krw125 on December 10, 2015, 03:12:29 AM
hi,
 sorry

http://mach3fiveaxis.top-eb.fr/?page_id=575