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G-Code, CAD, and CAM => G-Code, CAD, and CAM discussions => Topic started by: diegogoujon2 on December 06, 2014, 02:53:24 PM

Title: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on December 06, 2014, 02:53:24 PM
Hello, I am Diego, this is my firt post.

I am testing BobCAD with Mach3 plasma profile on a oxygen torch cutting table. I installed postprocessor "Mach_3_Plasma_Metric_Rev1.MillPst" from BobCAD web site. BobCAD is v24 and setting as plasma machine.

My output 1 is a reley for oxygen electrovalve. Works ok, i test writeing M03 and M05.

The problem is the gcode. when it should turn ON or OFF the reley the gcode set M05 ... always.
What i am doig wrong ? how can i set mach3 for turn ON and OFF the reley ?

Other problem. With postprocessor "Mach_3_Plasma_Metric_Rev1.MillPst" gcode has not FEEDRATE parameters ... no matter what feedrate set for plasma. But it works well with the "Mach_3_Mill_No_ATC_Metric_Rev2.MillPst"

I need help please!
Thanks.

Diego
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on December 06, 2014, 05:03:16 PM
Your problem is with BOBCAD writing junky POST processors. It is not a MACh3 problem call BOBCAD and complain to them.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on December 09, 2014, 09:21:17 AM
thanks mr BR549.

but Really ? Please I need real help.
I mean nobody has similar problems?

If this is true then nobody can use bobcad with Mach3.
All i need is some way to turn on/off a reley when gcode set M05. There is NO way to do that?

thank's
Diego



Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on December 12, 2014, 01:07:38 PM
In mach 3 you can setup M3/4/5/7/8/9 to active deactivate relays. BUT if your POST is not written correctly NOTHING is going to work correctly as the PROPER calls to the Mcodes will NOT be made. Same with Feedrates.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on December 12, 2014, 04:42:57 PM
OK, great!
so, how can setup M05 in mach 3 to active/deactive a relay ?

Thank you.

ps: sorry for my english, it's the best google translate can do :)
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on December 12, 2014, 05:03:18 PM
From the main screen, goto config, then ports and pins and there look at the lefthand side you will see where to setup the pins for the M3/4 and the M7/8 macros.

i suggest to download the Mach3 MANUAL as the best guide to setting up MACH3.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on December 13, 2014, 10:18:51 AM
Thanks BR549.
I have not problem with M3/4/7/8 .... my problem always was M5.

The Manual say M5 is to spindle off. nothing abaut setup M5 to active/deactive a relay.

Thanks anyway.
Diego
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on December 13, 2014, 10:33:40 AM
The M5 and M9 just turn OFF the relays for M3/4 and M7/8. they are NOT assigned a relay option. SO what ever pins you assign they just turn them OFF.

(;- )TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on December 14, 2014, 05:07:05 PM
I think we have not understood properly.
The following is the g-code generated using BobCAD using the PP "Mach_3_Plasma_Metric_Rev1.MillPst".

****************************************************
(BEGIN PREDATOR NC HEADER)
(MACH_FILE=3AXVMILL_MM.MCH)
(MTOOL T1 S1 D12.7 H0. DIAM_OFFSET 1 = 6.35)
(SBOX X-56.75 Y-56.75 Z-25.4 L31.35 W31.35 H0.)
(END PREDATOR NC HEADER)

%
O100
(PROGRAM NUMBER)
(PROGRAM NAME - BOBCAD1.NC)
(POST -  MACH 3 PLASMA METRIC)
(DATE - SUN. 12/14/2014)
(TIME - 06:51PM)

N01 M05
N02 G21 G40 G49 G54 G80 G90 G91.1
N03 G53 Z0.

(Trabajo 1  Contorno)
(TOOL# 1 , BEAM DIA. = 12.7)

N04 T1
N05 G00 G90 G54 X-31.35 Y-56.75
N06 Z2.54
N07 M98 P10 (SUBPROGRAM CALL)

N08 G04 P.5 (MANUALLY EDIT DWELL)
N09 M05
N10 G00 Z2.54
N11 G53 Z0.
N12 G53 Y0.
N13 M02

O10 (SUBPROGRAM OF O100)
N01 M05
N02 G04 P.5 (MANUALLY EDIT DWELL)

N03 G01 Z0.
N04 Y-31.35
N05 Y31.35
N06 X31.35
N07 Y-31.35
N08 X-31.35
N09 X-56.75
N10 M99 (SUBPROGRAM RETURN)

(END OF PROGRAM)

N14 M30
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****************************************************

does not appear M3/4/7/8 ... only M05
I need the PP set M03 to begin work and M05 to finalize.
Got that?

I tried all PP for Mach3.

Thanks
Diego
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on December 14, 2014, 05:47:38 PM
AGAIN I say that your GCODE  PROBLEM is with BOBCAM writting BAD Gcode. In the post it should turn ON(M3) /OFF(M5) the torch as needed. OBVIOUSLY it is NOT writting the correct Gcode to do so.

To add to that the code you showed is some of the WORSE plasma cutting Gcode I have seen produced from a CAM package. NO ONE uses SUBs to cut with a plasma machine that I have ever seen.

It is NOT a mach3 problem.

(;-) TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on February 12, 2015, 03:18:50 PM
Hello, sorry for the delay :(
ok, i agree. The problem is with BobCAD.
Can anyone recommend any CAM for plasma cutting? Preferably free

Thanks !!
Diego
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: Overloaded on February 12, 2015, 03:23:29 PM
SheetCAM

I think the first 180 lines are free.
 The $ aint bad anyway for the full deal.
GREAT support too !
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: BR549 on February 12, 2015, 07:52:22 PM
SheetCam

(;-) TP
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: aldepoalo on February 13, 2015, 11:46:12 AM
Seeing that you already have a copy of BobCAD CAM V24, there really is not need to purchase other software.  You'll find that making changes to the post is easy enough to do yourself, but if you would like me to help I can.

Yes I would turn subs off, and yes the post processor can be setup to fire any m code you want at the start of cutting and at the end of cutting.  If you want to use a dwell you can do that aswell.

Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: aldepoalo on February 13, 2015, 11:53:51 AM
Here is some sample code based on the feed back in this thread.

( PROGRAM NUMBER: 100)
( PROGRAM NAME: BOBCAD1.NC)
( POST:  PLASMA  )
( DATE: FRI. 02/13/2015 , TIME: 11:53AM)
( T1 , DIAMETER = .06)
(JOB 1  CONTOUR)

N01 G70 G17
N02 G00 G90 G54 X.22 Y1.5
N03 M03
N04 G04 P2.
N05 G01 Y1.25 F5.
N06 G03 X.47 Y1.5 I0. J.25
N07 G01 Y2.25
N08 G02 X.75 Y2.53 I.28 J0.
N09 G01 X2.25
N10 G02 X2.53 Y2.25 I0. J-.28
N11 G01 Y.75
N12 G02 X2.25 Y.47 I-.28 J0.
N13 G01 X.75
N14 G02 X.47 Y.75 I0. J.28
N15 G01 Y1.5
N16 G03 X.22 Y1.75 I-.25 J0.
N17 G01 Y1.5
N18 M05
N19 M30
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Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: aldepoalo on February 13, 2015, 11:54:52 AM
I can email you the post, and make any other changes you might need.    Just call me and I'll take care of you.

Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: aldepoalo on February 17, 2015, 09:25:05 AM
I didn't get a call or response so I guess you are up and running?   If there is anything I can help with please let me know.
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on February 17, 2015, 01:36:57 PM
hello aldepoalo.
thank you very much for the answer.
I just email you.

i hope you can help me. Thank you very much!
Diego
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: diegogoujon2 on February 17, 2015, 04:02:55 PM
ok this is done!!
i wanna send a huge thanks to aldepoalo for his awesome help and super fast replay. And thank you so much BR549 too.

awesome work!

this post can be closed (are not how do that)
Diego.
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: metwally on October 03, 2015, 05:10:04 PM
it seems that you do not have the post processor loaded in your cam system. I faced this before and being supported by bob cad cam.com they helped me to set the post processor in my bob cam where every thing works well
Title: Re: BobCAD, Mach3, Plasma cutting
Post by: RICH on October 05, 2015, 05:38:26 AM
Can anyone recommend any CAM for plasma cutting? Preferably free

Free I don't know of.
A friend is using Lazycam ( you need the pro version for Plasma) and the gode generated is good based on the required plasma inputs. You would need to set and use the plasma parameters in Options and need a workable script for the M code used.

FWIW,

RICH