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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: Truman on February 23, 2006, 01:44:01 AM

Title: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on February 23, 2006, 01:44:01 AM
Hi I have installed mach3 and watched the videos but when I go to configure mach to run my motors the computer reboots usually when I try to drag the scroll button this is really confusing can anyone help me?

thank you

Rob  ???
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: ynneb on February 23, 2006, 04:52:06 AM
Thats an odd one. Never heard of it b4.
Some areas that can cause problems is background running services and programs.
Also get rid of Quick time if you have that installed on the computer.
If you look in www.machsupport.com you will see a button for "optimise file". If you follow it, this should also help with setting up XP for running Mach.

You may be thinking Mach should run like any other program on windows without these problem. If you think about it, Mach is designed to run dangerous machinery, you need to make you computer as Mach friendly as possible, even if this does mean doing all the things that the optimise page suggests.

If after doing all this, please let us know if it helped or not.
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Art on February 23, 2006, 08:03:44 AM
If Mach reboots, there are usually two things causing it, either its too slow a CPU (if this is less than 500Mhz, then thats why..) or you need the special driver.
If you need the special driver, then running DriverTest.exe form the mach3 folder will reboot. If running that program reboots you, runt he batch file called specialdriver.bat and try again.
  If drivertest.exe doesnt reboot, then run the optimising file as Benny suggested..

Art
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on February 23, 2006, 11:48:28 AM
the computer is a 1.13ghz dell the driver test does not reboot the system its when I try to do all the settings in particular when I try to scroll the page it is very strange to say the least I even tried the special driver with no change
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Art on February 23, 2006, 12:56:09 PM
Hi:

   I think Bennys correct, run the optimising routines in the optmimisation.txtx file fromthe www.machsupport.com website, it sounds liek a conflilcting process..


Thanks
Art
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on March 27, 2006, 12:56:10 AM
Well I have run all or the optimising things on the list when I run a driver test it is great just like on video, when I try to do things within mach the computer reboots especially in motor tuning this has me stumped I even upgraded mach to the newest version thinking that a file might have been corrupted or something like that I really don't know what to do?

Rob
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Brian Barker on March 27, 2006, 06:53:12 AM
Did you reboot after the first install?
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on March 27, 2006, 12:01:05 PM
I am pretty sure but say I didn't how would I remove everything to try again?

thank you

Rob
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Brian Barker on March 27, 2006, 07:12:49 PM
There is a section in the manual that tells you how to take the driver out
You can download it from the download page here http://www.artofcnc.ca/Mach2.6.11.pdf It is the Mach2 manual but it will help you...
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on March 28, 2006, 01:32:05 AM
Ok I have removed everything reinstalled rebooted ran the driver test which was ok and still it is rebooting man this is getting frustrating! just out of curiousity I installed mach on my old amd650 and it worked no rebooting lots of interference when I tried the driver test though but I expected that due to the fact that I did not run the optomizing procedures on it.  I am thinking this might be a hardware or OS problem with the computer the only problem is they did not give me a copy of the OS when I bought the computer they said it was a licensed copy and the key is on a sticker on the side but that doesn't help me reinstall so I have no idea what to do heeeeelp!

Rob
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Prolightman on March 28, 2006, 02:04:59 AM
try downloading same version of xp and install that again use your key on side of machine you should be OK
I sell M$ software there wil be conflict with license.
if that does not suite you ask to burrow friends same deal you use your oem license
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: ART on March 28, 2006, 07:43:33 AM
Hi:

  There is a DRO on the diags page called "Time in Int" , if this reades 40, the computer can reboot. What does your s average??

Art
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on March 28, 2006, 11:29:47 AM
it averages 4.5-5.9
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: JFettig on March 28, 2006, 11:37:07 AM
It is very likely that dell has a ton of extra crap on that pc, all their crazy antivirus and all.  How well does Mach run on the older machine? You wouldn't want to run it on a main pc anyway?


Jon
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on March 28, 2006, 12:08:20 PM
it seems to run fine on the old pc.  I purchased the 1.13 dell for the router
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Prolightman on March 31, 2006, 04:20:20 PM
dell is notorious for bad systems
and you may not be able to uninstall some of there spyware that may interfere with mach
3 worst pc venders are compaq ,dell and gateway
gateway has improved somewhat
I will not buy hp products anymore on that note from what I see of mach software (stilll not at the setup stage)
looks very promising as state of art controller my dual cpu will not work with it so I am at the point of looking at small itx boards to stuff the controllers and system all in one box
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on April 01, 2006, 12:44:56 AM
I have it semi stable now enough to work with it, at this point I am trying to get my motors turning

buy the way guys thank you very much for all of the help so far I am sure I will need more
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: JFettig on April 01, 2006, 10:07:13 AM
I think that if you totally reformatted, and only installed windows and then went through the optimization guide, it could potentially work much better.


Jon
Title: Re: rebooting problem
Post by: Truman on April 01, 2006, 10:52:10 AM
I agree Jon but right now I am trying to get these drives going to see if I put them together right, to let me know if I should just buy drives or not I may just buy the drives anyway because I think I made a poor choice going with the a3977 stepper drives they may not be the right ones for my motors. I would have to download a copy of xp and I am afraid of picking one up with a virus or something