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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 05:04:55 PM

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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 05:04:55 PM
I am trying to get my CNC mill going.  I am working with the computer right now.  Windows 7 and Mach 3.  Mach 3 installed OK.  I created the shortcut for drivertest.exe  However driver test will not run.  It looks like it starts to run and then quits.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Thanks, rex
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: garyhlucas on March 17, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
It won't run under Windows 7 unless you are using a 3rd party motion control card such as smoothstepper.


Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:09:37 PM
If I can't do a driver test in Windows 7, then how do I tell if I have an installed and functioning driver?  I do have mach3.sys in the Mach3 directory.  I am really at the rudimentary stage now apparently.
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Post by: Hood on March 17, 2014, 06:11:19 PM
If you intend to use the parallel port then you need to use a 32bit OS. If your W7 is 32bit then fine but if it is 64bit then the only way you will be able to use Mach is if you use an external controller rather than the parallel port.
Hood
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:14:47 PM
I have installed a 32 bit OS.  Not sure where to go from here if I want to use the computer's parallel port.
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:18:04 PM
I want to be able to verify the parallel port with Mach 3 before I attempt to hook up to the (Campbell designs) breakout board.  Let me know if I'm barking up the wrong tree.  thx
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: Hood on March 17, 2014, 06:20:06 PM
Ok if its 32bit it should be fine. You mention you made a shortcut to drivertest.exe, not sure why you would do that?
Did you install Mach to the default location?
Have a look in device manager and see if the pulsing engine is there (that is the driver)
Hood
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Post by: Overloaded on March 17, 2014, 06:21:29 PM
Did you re-boot the pc after install ? Did it re-boot automatically ? (I think it does now)

Russ
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Post by: Overloaded on March 17, 2014, 06:22:50 PM
Are you closing Mach before running the test ?

Russ
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:24:24 PM
I did reboot.
2.2.1 section of the manual says to create the shortcut and put it on the desktop.  I was just trying to follow the manual (downloaded from the website).  Got stopped there.
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:25:07 PM
Yes mach3 is closed while running the test
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:27:15 PM
Yes, I see the pulsing engine in the device manager.  Not sure if I'm supposed to be able to test it or not.
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Post by: Hood on March 17, 2014, 06:29:39 PM
Ok try going to the Mach3 folder and double clicking the drivertest.exe and see if it will run.
If not re-download Mach again and re-install, no need to remove the previous one you installed.
As Russ said, did your computer restart when you installed Mach the first time?

Hood
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:34:03 PM
I did reboot the computer after installation and I have tried double clicking mach3.test from within the folder.  I allowed the installer to install to the default location on the disk.

I will try a re-install, although one responder told me that mach3.test will not work on Win 7.  True?
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:34:41 PM
Sorry, I mean driver test.exe
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Post by: Hood on March 17, 2014, 06:36:05 PM
It will work on W7 32Bit but not on any 64bit OS.
Hood
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:42:14 PM
Hood, are you saying that drivertest.exe will work with windows 7 32 bit?  That's what I'm using.  The program just exits before it appears on the screen.
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: Hood on March 17, 2014, 06:45:56 PM
I have never tried but I am 99.999% certain it will work on W7 32bit.

One thing however, you say YOU rebooted, what version of Mach are you installing?
Hood
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 06:47:18 PM
Gotta go offline; back later
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 10:49:51 PM
Here's the latest...
I have reinstalled Mach 3 twice.  I make sure I reboot after install.  The parallel port installation does happen and it shows up in the device list.
Mach 3 runs and displays the correct license name.
drivertest does not run, does not show up in the task manager at all.  It looks like it wants to run, but terminates in about 1 second.

I am running clean install of Windows 7 on a qualified machine.  The version of Mach 3 is what's available on Artsoft's web page right now.  R3.043.066
The machine has Norton on it, but it is not running.  I uninstalled all the other clean up, speed up, and back up programs that keep popping up on the screen.

Not sure where to go from here.
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Post by: Overloaded on March 17, 2014, 11:13:37 PM
Just out of curiosity, close Mach, go to the Mach3 folder and double click on OriginalDriver.bat , then try to run the driver test.exe directly from the Mach3 folder.

Other than that, it might be a 7 thing, others will hopefully help.

Regards,
Russ
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 11:25:01 PM
No dice.  There was a window associated with originaldriver.bat that said something about it being for Windows 2000.  Don't know if that's a problem or not.

Is there anyone on this forum that has successfully used Mach 3 with Windows 7?

My problem is that I can't get drivertest to run.
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Post by: Overloaded on March 17, 2014, 11:30:35 PM


Is there anyone on this forum that has successfully used Mach 3 with Windows 7?

 

I have ... no problem. Then went to an external controller for enhanced speed.
 Hang in there, you'll get sorted.

Regards,
Russ
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Post by: black33guy on March 17, 2014, 11:32:23 PM
I can hang in as long as you guys can. :)
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: Hood on March 18, 2014, 03:58:01 AM
I am still curious about you saying YOU rebooted the first time, it should be automatic with Mach doing the reboot and nothing you can do about it.

Can you attach your xml.

I would also disable Norton to see if that makes a difference.
Hood
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Post by: Picengraver on March 18, 2014, 05:35:13 AM
Try this.
Go to the Mach3 folder - locate the driver test file.
Right click it.
Select Run as Administrator.

Windows 7 can have some odd file privileges that inhibit some files from running easily.

John Champlain
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Post by: black33guy on March 18, 2014, 08:59:04 AM
That was it John.  I ran it in admin mode and it came right up and started working.  wow
Thank you all for the help.  I'll see you again when I run into the next issue.

BTW Hood, although I'm from Portland, Or, I've been to Carnoustie and played your wonderful golf course.  Beautiful part of the world.

rex

Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: Hood on March 18, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
I last played golf when I was 12, that was not yesterday sadly ;D

Hood
Title: Re: New to Forum
Post by: black33guy on March 18, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
I'm going to start a new thread for my next issue.