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Title: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on June 08, 2013, 11:28:53 PM

Greetings,

     Here is a BP2, retrofit I am working on (as time permits).
Currently components are

01). ESS, C32, C52, M26, DG45(160v/40a drives "Balaz's"), DG45 converter cables, C27's, MPG4-6 From CNC4PC.
02). VFD (GS2 3hp), reactor, RF filters, VFD Brake, CB's, Contactors and all other industrial electrical from ADC.
03). Home built Drive Power supply: Avel Linburg Torrids 1.5kw x3 (one per drive), with smoothing circuit, mallory caps.
04). SIS wiring from AWC, HMI interface Push Buttons from Eaton (adc).
05). Two cabinets, one OEM for the "Main" panel, and another fabricated for the "Spindle and Power" electrical.
06). Lock-tight for all external electrical runs, Amphenal DC Servo connectors.
07). OEM servos, are DC, 1.3kw
08). Commercial grade electrical prints done in Rhino CAD. Cabinet components labeled to match CAD(s) and BOM.
09). 24vdc safety circuit (Category B), 24vdc also for all limit and home switches.
10). 24vdc, and 5vdc Din rail mount PS from Mean Well.
11). Control relays for: Coolant and Auto-oiler, plus 10 more user defined relay outs.
12). Optional inputs for: Tool Length Touch Off, and Digitizing Probe.

BTW: Anybody want to make a few extra bucks, and make me a 20"wide x 32"tall x 10"deep spindle cabinet?
I would also need a 18"x30" back plane (with 1/4 stand off, i.e. like 1/4" nuts). Also need a "Lid/Door" that would
close it via 4-6 screws. 16-14ga. would be fine...  I just don't have a plasma at the shop, and really, really HATE the idea,
of cutting one my self with a jig saw......

To Do:
01). Got to re-paint the old looking OEM cabinet, machine, and Spindle.
02). Complete the Main cabinet, and do the Spindle Cabinet.
03). Hang the cabinets on the beast.
04). Test everything.
05). Configure and tune the machine/mach3.
06). Sell the beast with a nice set of tool holders!
07). Figure out a way to HIDE the money from Momma.........  :)
08). Or if she figures out 7 above, find a grave plot next to walmart so she will visit me when I die,
     while she is spending that money.

PIC of "Main" (OEM) cabinet, with the electrical components, wire trough, din rail and labeling mounted.
Waiting on components from CNC4PC to come in to finish out this cabinet.

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project.
Post by: poppabear on July 07, 2013, 09:14:09 PM

more pics

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on July 07, 2013, 09:17:36 PM

remaining pic

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on August 15, 2013, 10:05:16 PM

Update to the build, sorry, been busy.

Got to now wire the cabinets to the external machine.
Then Tune the DG45 Drives.

The fifth pic, will be in the next post, can only attach 4 max.

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on August 15, 2013, 10:06:22 PM

Fifth Pic, the control cabinet.

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: Ya-Nvr-No on August 16, 2013, 08:58:31 AM

Looks like a used Hoffman Enclosure for that Spindle Cabinet need you had.
All is Looking good! Thanks for the updates.

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on August 16, 2013, 09:03:24 AM

Benny,

     YOU have an excellent eye my friend!!!  I got it from another Mach3 user on this site, we traded for stuff we both needed!
I will have to cover the disconnect lever hole with a plate (and paint it of course).

Thanks,

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: Ya-Nvr-No on August 16, 2013, 09:30:59 AM

I had the same issue, spot welded a plate in and then ground and smoothed to suit, filled it in with Fiberglass Auto body filler. Sand and paint. And it had 20 holes. But it was Cheap. Now it looks like new.

Craig

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project..Finished, ready to ship
Post by: poppabear on September 17, 2013, 04:52:43 PM

Here are the finished pics:

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 17, 2013, 04:55:03 PM

More pics.

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 17, 2013, 04:57:32 PM

Detail pics of Control cabinet, with spindle cabinet detail pics to follow.

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 17, 2013, 04:59:45 PM

control cabinet cont.

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 17, 2013, 05:02:04 PM

Spindle cabinet detail pics

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: TDAY on September 23, 2013, 08:13:16 PM

Those CAT5 cables have a nice clean look.

Troy

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 25, 2013, 03:23:41 PM

Troy,

Thanks for commenting!!!!!  Yes, I really like Arturo of CNC4PC's idea of modularizing the interconnections with CAT5's......  I really, make wiring much easier, and neater in overall appearance.

How do you like the layout of the cabinets, and the Labeling of the components with device labels?
(they tie into a BOM and the Electrical Print that is going out with the machine)?

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: TDAY on September 25, 2013, 04:34:09 PM

Hi Scott,
 I didnt notice the labels the first time, very nice. The overall, looks well organized and not crowded. Makes me wish i would have invested in a bigger box for my MillDrill when i converted it. :)

Troy

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on September 29, 2013, 09:07:07 PM

Well, Just got the new "Drive Covers", for the DG45 drives... from CNC4PC, it is a VERY nice touch, will get some pics of them posted when I can.

IF any of you guys, have some comments, suggestions, Flames etc. on this build let me know, always looking for ways to improve the end result!

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: zafarsalam on September 29, 2013, 09:51:25 PM

Hi Scott,

I am a mechanical person. Your electrical stuff is way too cool for me :). I only can wish that some day I can build an electric cabinet as well organized as yours. I am learning a lot from your work. Waiting for more photos.

Cheers,
Zafar

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on October 01, 2013, 09:12:00 PM

Thanks Z!!

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on October 04, 2013, 03:23:46 PM

here is a video of the machine moving around, running a circular pocket, from the pocket wizard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OiqB1cJQ1E

scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: JHChoppers on October 16, 2013, 10:11:43 AM

Looking good.  Cant wait to see the final assembly.

JH

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on October 16, 2013, 07:01:02 PM

Thanks JH,

But, on the video of it moving around, that is it's final build at least here, it is shipping out on those two pallets to a customer who will put the two halves together at his shop....... I wish, I could keep it, but need the money more........

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: BR549 on October 16, 2013, 07:44:42 PM

OH SHoot I though tyou were going to whip an ATC on that puppy and make some mega bucks.

Just a thought but a tool changer to run on a BP/clone would be a money maker. That is IF you can perfect a PDB for the BP.

(;-) TP

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on October 17, 2013, 05:42:59 PM

Yea, it is just to cheap and easy to stick an PLC on the machine for the ATC, vs. trying to make a custom/proprietary board.
On this machine it is a Ericson quick change chuck so, not really adaptable to an ATC without MAJOR spindle type mods.......

Scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: BR549 on October 17, 2013, 09:01:30 PM

Does your spindle have the drawbar hole down the center ??

The QC30 has the same taper and lug spacing as a BT or Cat30 (;-)  

Just a thought, (;-) TP

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: poppabear on October 17, 2013, 10:07:22 PM

No, unfortunately, there is no hole down the center..........  thus my statement about major mods to the spindle.......
It uses a QC200 tool holder, so I would have to also remove the Ericson quick change chuck, and then re-bore the tool holder socket to
some standard like ISO 30, professional grind/hardened, and bore the entire spindle quill..........  Just FAR, FAR to many expensive mods
mechanically, that would cost FAR more than the machine is worth (to me at least).

PLCs/ATCs are a NON-ISSUE for me, but I have NO desire to try and make bricks without straw.
The amount of Labor, cost and down time for it would be prohibitive. It would be cheaper to buy a used BP that had an ATC in place and retro it than to redo this one....  again, that is in my opinion.........

I would like to find an Old Interact with ATC, or Mazak, or Haas VF4 or VF6 to retro, or especially an old Okuma Lathe with the five rail slides!

scott

Title: Re: Bridge Port Series II, retrofit project
Post by: BR549 on October 17, 2013, 10:56:13 PM

I thought you were lucky enough to have a QC30. I have one here in the shop WITH the center hole.

(;-)TP