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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: ugotit33 on April 27, 2013, 09:40:01 AM
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Does anyone have a CNC milling machine combo made by MIB
I HAVE A 4 AXIS MILLING MACHINE with JY5300 machine controller and JY800 power supply speed controller
Spindle motor is 800w and 24000 max rpm water cooled
I had a A>AXIS CARD BURN OUT AND Z> AXIS CARD BURN OUT.
ALL STEPPER MOTORS WORK ON ALL AXIS BY USING THE Y > AXIS CARD TO TEST WITH
using the hand held no PC mode
I'm trying to get the spindle motor to run using MACH3 software loading G-code roadrunner.
I'm total stuck can not get the emergency :-\ reset to stop flashing.
i setup the config part.
i have the MACH3 MANUAL INFO for set up still cannot run the code
HELP PLEASE
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Try changing the active state of the E-Stop, you will get that from Config menu then Ports and Pins then Inputs.
Hood
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Yes that seems the only place to do it.
But I have tried it every each way and still not luck.
This setup is parallel cable hook up.
I did check my hardware and COM PORT AND LPT ??
Anyone know what signal or how to check the LPT CABLE.
DEVICE MANGER SAYS IT IS WORKING OK ?
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Can you attach your xml please.
Hood
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I'm new to this.
Computer tech but new to MACH3 and this CNC Machine
What XML are you talking about please.
I loaded road runner etc. Guess that is the g-code in .tap
Thank you
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Reload mach3 started all over.
Change to LPT3 FROM LPT1
OK got the reset to stop.
Loaded Road runner
I can see road runner working but my machine does not ????
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Do you have the correct pins set for your step and direction?
Do you have the correct steps per unit set in motor tuning?
If you open Mach you will see lower right it says Profile and then a name, close Mach then look in the Mach3 folder on your drive for a file of that name with a xml extension. You will have to copy and rename it then attach to the forum by using the additional options button on the reply page. The reason you will need to rename is the forum only accepts a file name to be uploaded once and unless yours is unique it will be rejected.
Hood
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Will try it later Thank you
I have no info on how to set the pins and steps etc
when I bought the machine they gave me a Micky mouse
instruction paper
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Hi Hood
Found the XML.
Now I know what you where looking for
I took ABC off of my drawing machine
took EFG of of my work machine
Thank you
EDIT: Topic merged by Mod
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First thing I see is you have port 1 disabled and port 2 enabled, likely that is wrong but if not then you need to assign port 2 for motors etc rather than the Port 1 you have.
Hood
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where ARE YOU SEEING IT DISABLED
I CHECK IN MY SYSTEM HARDWARE.
I'M USING LPT3
SO i WILL CHECK THE PORT
THANK YOU
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If you are using LPT3 then that would likely be a PCI parallel port, you need to find the address of that port and then enter it into Mach as port 1 address.
If you look at the screenshot below you will see you have port 2 enabled and port 1 disabled.
Hood
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Yes I know I did that and enabled port 2
now the emergency switch is OK
I can not still run Road runner.
It runs fine in MACH3 but my machine does not run.
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Ok you need to understand a few things.
First is you need to tell Mach the port address that you are connected to.
Second it does not matter what windows calls that port, ie it may call it LPT3 but if you look at the address of that in device manager you can enter that address as port1 in Mach.
Third you need to set all port assignments for inputs and outputs that you are using in Mach to that port.
In your xml you have the E-Stop set to Port 3, you can not have that when using the parallel port with Mach as there are only two possiblt ports, 1 and 2. If you were using an external motion controller rather than the parallel port then port 3 may be valid but you are not.
Have you downloaded and read the manual for your hardware?
Hood
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I'm still working on getting this thing solved.
As far as I can recall
com 1 / irq4 / 3f8h
com 2 / irq3 / 2f8h
com 3 / irq4 / 2e8h
com 4 / irq3 / 2e8h
So if I'm set to LPT 1
WHERE DOES PORT 1 COME IN ?????
Educate me please
In MACH language is port 1 relating to com1 irq4 3f8h and in MACH
I see it as 0x378
? ???????
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Forget about COM ports. COM ports are SERIAL ports. Mach drives axes through LPT ports i.e. PARALLEL ports. Also forget about what numbers windoze calls your LPT ports - it's irrelevant to Mach.
Look in device manager at the resources for your parallel (LPT) port(s). If you have more than one, decide which one you want to use and look at the start of the I/O address range and make a note of that number. Let's assume it's 0378 for example.
Now go to ports and pins. enable port #1 and enter 378 as the port address. Disable port #2.
Now go to motor-outputs tab and set step port and dir port for the axes you're using to 1.
and please fix your keyboard shift-key. Thankyou.
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OK Sorry about the caps.
It was not meant personal.
I will check it out again.
Thanks again.
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Hello Again
I really need help.
I checked the setting
lpt1 set for port 1
I double checked the set up I got for my system using MACH3
I double checked the set up from Artsoft.
I still can not get the emergency button to stop flashing.
I want to try and run road runner to see if my machine works.
HELP IN CAPS
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have you tried flipping the active state of your E-Stop pin?
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I'm trying to catch up on the lingo.
flipping ? does that mean changing from an X to a check in the box ?
If that is what you are referring to then yes
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time to post your xml again then please.
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OK
Thank you for your time much appreciated.
I just tried it all again ( I'm flipped out my self) no go.
Time for a coffee then I will go back to the shop and get it.
Cheers
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this may be a dupe sorry
here is the xml
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OK there are several things to change or check.
Motor Outputs:
1) you have the spindle enabled with its step and dir pin set to pin2 of port zero. I suggest you disable this for now. We can sort your spindle later.
Input Signals:
1) Do you actually have limit switches on your machine? if YES then OK else disable the limits.
2) You have the E-Stop Emulated. Untick Emulated. If this solves the E-Stop problem OK else untick active low.
3) You have OEM Trig #1 set to the same pin as E-Stop. Disable OEM Trig #1
Output Signals:
1) You have the charge pump set to port 1 pin 1. Does your system need this?
Ian
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wow
I have a water cooling in spindle motor ? not sure I need pump
as it pump runs with out PC
I will change it.
Yes I have 6 limit switches all work 2 for each axis,
Great will try all this now
Thank you
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OK
I did what you said please take a look.
No progress?
first one was X you have
Second one is Y
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do you get this? (see attached image)
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I did not have the machine connected so am I getting a false reading.
I will try it with the machine on and off
Thank you
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You don't have the machine connected?
...AND it would appear the forum doesn't have a smiley icon to show me banging my head on the (flipping) desk.
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I did try it with it with the machine on and off it makes no difference. I still get the same reset button flashing.
Pray tell me do you need the machine on to up software.
I thought you setup the software and then turn on the machine and try it.
So now what
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first: you haven't answered my question in reply#26.
second: Nobody said you needed the machine ON but unless it's CONNECTED where do you think the (e-stop and limit) signals are coming from? Answer: your pins are FLOATING i.e. randomly changing between logic high and logic low with every passing breeze.
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sorry but I did answer reply # 26
guess I missed something.
Lets start from scratch please.
How do you go about setting all this up.
My machine runs works fine with the hand held no pc.
All axis work x, y, z, a,
I can control the spindle motor with the speed box.
I check all limit switches manually and with the hand held operation
also they all work fine.
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I setup the software, config according to the manual ( papers )
supplied by the vendor.
I also tried the Mach3 setup for the config.
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I just turned on the machine loaded mach3 I get the same problem.
What should I see lit and unlit in the diagnostic section
cheers
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sorry but I did answer reply # 26
OK - Read Reply#26 again and give me the Reply# where you answered.
Lets start from scratch please.
You're having a laugh aren't you?
You now have a choice - you can answer my question in reply #26 or as they say on The Dragon's Den - I'm out
Cheers
Ian
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no I'm not having a laugh I'm trying to follow you.
i did all you said no go .
If you want to drop out go for it.
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i bought this machine 1 month ago and when I set it up the PCB
BOARD BURN and 2 of the axis cards burnt also one caught on fire.
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it has taken me 3 weeks to get a replacement from the seller.
it came yesterday .
I set it all up, all motors axis works, all boxes work, all limit switches work water pump coolant for
spindle works.
I just need to get get mach to work .
I dont have time to play games and laugh at anyone.
sorry you feel that way
cheers
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No you have NOT done all I have said. You still haven't answered my question - your call.
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The reset I shut off and then I go from hand held to pc
the buzzer goes off
None of my limit switches are active.
They are off in the diagnostic tab also
I did not have to reverse anything
all input leds are off.
Sorry I do not know the status line where to find it.
Keep smilling you can only get wrinkles
So now your laughing at me.
Well have a good laugh
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If you want to know how to rebuild a Harley or a engine ,
no problem I can tell you. wired the bike . Been there done it.
If you want to know how to build a solar house no problem built 4 of my own with wind turbine.
Did all the wring in the houses and wind turbine.
solar panel etc. Plumbing cast iron rads. I can tell you.
If you want to know how to do gun smiting no problem I have a gunsmith company,
Target shooter.
If you want to know how to build sail boats NO PROBLEM
I built 3 > 22 foot trimaran, 31 foot cat , 36 foot trimaran fiberglass.
I could gone on with all the stuff I have done.
But this software takes the $%^$%&%&$&$%&$%& cake
Keep laughing
If you wantt
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Hi Ugotit,
I honestly mean you no offence but you have to trust me on this one - it is not the Mach3 software that is causing you the problems it is your basic understanding of exactly how to use the software which may be at fault.
May I respectfully suggest that you take some time to read the Manual and other associated documentation http://www.machsupport.com/documentation.php which will provide the answers to the questions that you have raised so far and perhaps give you a better insight into setting up Mach3 for use with your machine.
To be totally frank – the machine controller you have is bit of a handicap to you mainly because of the lack of support and documentation provided but it must, to a certain extent, be lacking in quality for two of the internal boards to burn-up.
This raises the question – has the LPT port of you PC been damaged as a result of the burn-up ?
What Windows operating system are you using on your PC ?
Tweakie.
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Firstly I think there could be a language problem here. You appear to have misunderstood the phrase "You're having a laugh aren't you?". That does NOT mean I or anyone else is laughing at you. But to suggest we "start over" at the point you did after all the help you've had and often ignored was just not going to happen.
We were at a point where I think we were very close to solving your problem. After I suggested the changes to your XML which you said you'd carried out on your machine, ALL I asked you was whether you got that warning screen up. I needed to know this in order to tell you what to do next.
I have no idea why at that point rather than just reply with a simple yes or no you decided to do and say just about everything you could think of EXCEPT answer that simple question.
Hood was with you on this for TWO pages and it's pretty clear to anyone who cares to read this thread that it was a bit of a struggle to get you to follow simple instructions AND GET USEFUL ANSWERS BACK.
I then took over and was doing my best to help you for another TWO pages with similar results. UNLESS WE GET ACCURATE ANSWERS BACK HOW ON EARTH DO YOU THINK WE CAN PROCEED TO THE NEXT LOGICAL STEP?
What happened next is I'm sad to say getting more and more common on this forum lately. After getting help all this time, just because things may not be going the way you'd like, you decide to get attitude with the person who has done his level best to help you.
You seem to have no problem responding with lengthy, aggressive and rude nonsense and yet STILL you refused to answer a simple yes/no question.
I'm out.
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Well you people have run this stuff I have not.
Basically Stirling your the hot shot with an attitude.
Be a little me kind to a newbie.
I'm trying to follow all of you.
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Tweakie just brought up a point which I have considered also.
LPT PORT
I found in the manual last night a link to a driver tester in the Mach folder
on the hard drive.
I will try that when I go to the shop. I will also dig up my old software
that test this stuff.
No offense to you But if your out of here fine thank you for your help
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What Windows operating system are you using on your PC ?
Tweakie.
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XP
i just tried the drive tester. lpt is fine
pulse per sec @25khz mode 23832 avg
apic time 8392
apic present green light.
I switch from LPT1 TO LPT2 rebooted change the pot in mach also
drive tester works good on lpt2
switch the config to lpt2 rebooted
reset button stopped flashing.
loaded road runner hit the start button nothing happens
thank you
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in the diagnostic there where red lights on all axis in the zero section
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The driver test only checks the suitability of your PC for running Mach3 - it does not test the LPT port.
1) If you download and run Parmon http://www.geekhideout.com/parmon.shtml this will enable you to test the function of your LPT port.
2) Using a multimeter / continuity tester check your LPT cable thoroughly - ensure that Pin1 goes to Pin1, Pin2 to Pin2 etc. etc. It takes a while but it is worth it.
Tweakie.
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correct me if I'm wrong but the manual says it checks the lpt
Yes I'm going to do that and also find another cable.
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I did a continuity test on the cable
All pins good
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correct me if I'm wrong but the manual says it checks the lpt
Yes I'm going to do that and also find another cable.
The Driver Test does exactly what it says, it tests the driver, ie Machs parallel port pulsing engine, it does not test the port itself.
Regarding swapping lpt1 to lpt2, you can not just do that and expect things to work.
I will go through things again to hopefully help you understand.
It does not matter what Windows calls the port, it can be LPT1, LPT3, LPT100000000000 and Mach doesnt care. Mach is only interested in the address.
If you enter the address in Port 1 field box in Mach then you must set all your axis and any other Inputs and Outputs to Port 1.
If you enter the address in the Port2 box in Mach then you will have to set all up as Port2.
Now please answer some questions.
Does your computer have 1 physical port connection on the back or does it have more than 1?
If it has 1 is it up at the top beside the other connectors or is it lower down beside the slots?
If it has more than 1 which are you connected to?
Hood
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Please be patient I'm following every one the best I can
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When I switch from lpt1 in mach config to lpt2 i do change everything in the mach config setup to port 2
and visa versa and rebooted each time and did the same change in the control panel
system. hardware, device manager.
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With that said I had to put a pci slot parallel card in that works, brand new, with the drivers, and checked it
when I got the machine because I did not have a MB with a parallel port.
I check the continuity of the cable this morning all good.
The only other thing I have going to the computer is a USB cable from the machine
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please answer me this.
in the mach config
port 1 is 0.x378
port 2 is 0.x278
I'm assuming these number stay the same if not the I have to change it to what.
Maybe this is where the problem is.
thank you
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No they do not stay the same, you set Port 1 to the address of the port you are using.
Go to device manager in windows and look at the port you are using and get its address, you enter that in Port 1 box in Mach.
Hood
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WOW way
I though that could be the case because a wack of messages back I asked about com ports, IRQ'S etc and I was told to forget all about that.
OK
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Onward we go I will set that up
thank you
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Yes you were told correctly to forget all about Com ports and IRQ's.
Com ports are serial ports. Mach uses the parallel port NOT the serial port.
It was explained to you but obviously you did not pick up on that ;)
Hood
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Sorry but I did, just making sure I heard you right.
Thank you
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hood, stirling, tweakie,
I decided to do my hard drive over with a fresh operating system,
also upgraded my CPU.
I will start over and see where that gets me.
Thank you for trying to help.
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I think that a fresh, clean, install may just solve the problem (I sincerely hope so).
I look forward to hearing of your progress.
Tweakie.
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OK
The battle goes on
64 bit CPU installed :)
Windows 7 ultimate 64 bit system :)
LPT1 0X378 :)
Configured Mach3 all over reboot also. :) ;)
Machine on, loaded Mach3, put the roadrunner code in. ;D
Reset button not flashing :) :) :) :)
Hit the CYCLE start watched the lines travel in the picture. ::)
along the road runner. green ::)
Watched the code line move 1 at a time ::)
when it got to line 933 I stopped it. :-\
My machine never moved. >:(
OK
Where is the beer, wine, shine, grass, pills in any order
time to find the star gate entrance and warp
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My machine does work fine can switch with a button from hand held
all axis work, to PC no problem.
What next ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Mach will not work on a 64bit OS if you are using the parallel port.
Hood
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OK
Gotcha
I will go Back 4 steps, at it again
Thank you
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OK
Is anyone using a USB to convert from a LPT
Cable adapter FROM LPT ??? to USB
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Wont work. Only way you can get USB to work with Mach is use an external motion controller, if doing that then I would suggest you use ethernet instead as its more robust than USB.
And external controllers work with 64bit OS's
Hood
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Yes
I have an external motor controller but the main machine is Parallel port.
I will go back to XP and start again.
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What I was meaning by external are controllers that work with Mach. They sit between your hardware (drives etc) and your computer. Devices such as CSMIO/IP, SmoothStepper, kFlop, Galil, DSPMC etc.
Hood
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Hi
I just load XP 32 bit
Same settings as I had in WIN 7
I'm back to the same problem
Emergency button, can not stop it.
The Machine has not run so it can not be that.
I have not used the hand held just push the button for PC AND PUSH IN THE LIMIT
SWITCH just as in win 7 to stop the buzzer.
I do not get it.
Is Mach3 such a fussy software
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No Mach is simple to set up :)
What port are you using? Onboard or PCI?
Have you entered the correct address for that port?
Hood
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I have a PCI PARALLEL PORT CARD brand new
Software load all is good.
Shows up in the device manager.
Also use third Party software to check it.
LPT1 OX378
Lets stop for a bit I will get back to you.
Going to get another XP Fresh boot software tonight
and start again.
Been doing computers since 1992 2 year college 1994-1995 computer tech.
Mobile computer service out of a motor home 1996 for one year.
This is driving me up the wall.
Thank you
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It is highly unlikely that a PCI card will use 0378 address, have you looked in device manager to see what the address is?
Hood
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I tried all that there is no place I can find it. XP nor Win 7 NO INFO
in the device manager. I know from old 0378 WAS LPT 1 so iI tried it like that
You might be right because it's a card.
The cards these days only come with the drivers, there skimping on everything.
They want everyone to got to finger movement and an I pad etc.
Anyway I just got in with new XP software and will do a reload.
Hopefully tonight.
Thanks again.
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Start button in Windows, All Programmes, Accessories, system tools, System Information, Components, Ports, Parallel.
There you should find your port and the address.
There may be more than 1 as although your motherboard doesnt seem to have a port on it, it likely does. Most modern motherboards have an IDC header on them that you can connect to for the onboard port.
Anyway as you have a PCI port that is not the one you are wanting so look for another in the list and get its address.
Hood
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Hi
I just finished loading the new fresh standalone XP PRO
Stopped to get a coffee.
I did check all the system info still does not give the address.
I also just down loaded LPT INFO will check it out.
It shows it is LPT3
So when I go back to the shop I will see if I can change it in the bIOS
The Bios is the selector of what port it gives to the card.
In Mach you only have the choice of LP1 OR LPT2 is that correct???
Ty I will have a coffee for you also
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In Mach you only have the choice of LP1 OR LPT2 is that correct???
No!!
As has been said a few times already, Mach does not care what windows calls it, so it could be in Windows as LPT10 Billion and Mach would not care. Mach just needs to know what the address is, not the name windows gives it. Find that address and you enter that into the port 1 box in Mach and all will be good.
If there is no address showing then I dont think it can be getting seen by windows correctly.
Hood
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Tried to set it up in the bios
No option to change from LPT3 TO LPT1
If I go into the device manager com/port and LPT
I can change from LPT3 TO LPT1 there
but it would make no difference done it before,
because the card is recognized in LPT3 MODE.
Last resort is to upgrade my BIOS but this is getting
all stupid because this PC I built 5 years ago is a fast PC
ETC.
Time for another coffee and breakfast and think.
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Please read what people tell you, Mach does not give a $hit what windows calls it, it is just the address Mach needs.
Bios will make no difference, it is a PCI card.
Hood
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Ugotit,
I am sorry, but I just can’t help smiling at all this.
I am assuming you are serious here and that this is not just a wind-up but you are over-complicating every issue without reading and taking-in the sound advice that others, especially Mr Hood, have been giving you.
The Mach manual clearly (in my opinion) details the Port and Pins set-up, perhaps you could print out the relevant parts (Section 5) and follow the instructions just one step at a time http://www.machsupport.com/docs/Mach3Mill_1.84.pdf. This may save you a lot of time and frustration. If you just keep going round and round in circles like this then you may never get your machine working from your PC.
Tweakie.
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First thank you or all the input and help.
Sorry to get to the point
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Second are all of you computer tech's Mr HOOD Especial
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Have you built worked on computer since DOS 3 PC 286
I have and run every piece of software out there starting
win 3.0 every NT and everything up to and out there up to today.
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I have read and listened and followed all of you but unless you have
the computer, operating system software in front of you you are all Guessing .
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So I thank you all again from the HEART for trying to help.
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MACH IS GOOD it is not MACH
It's Mr Gates and the rich conglomerate's that are trying to take over the world.
No organized just putting stuff out for sale and you have to fend for your self.
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Have you ever read this ? ? ? ?
http://www.mib-tech.com/mach3_setup.html
ECP mode and all ?
Not clear from your previous posts that you have ... or not.
Maybe you know too much about computers because it seems you are overlooking the obvious.
Good luck. Hope you'll be gettin' it soon.
Russ
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Yes I have read that. Thank you
Seriously THANK YOU
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Again the problem is Mr Gate's
Software and peripheral programers,
No standards and the so called PLUG AND PLAY
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In short I have found the problem, solved it and my machine runs.
Now I have to learn Mach and the ins and out's
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You can never know enough about computer unless your
one of the ZOMBIES running around with your finger on an IPAD
and think you are god. SAD
Sorry to be sort of negative here but the world is F - - k -D
No one thinks anymore they are waiting for the chip in there wrist as I speak
Obama is trying to implement so I have been told. YAHOO
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In short I have found the problem, solved it and my machine runs.
Now I have to learn Mach and the ins and out's
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YIPPIEEEEEEEEE ! ! ! :) :) :)
Would you be so kind as to tell us what the problem was and what you did to fix it ? ? ? ..... Please ? :)
Thanks,
Russ
:)
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Yes but first this
I'm on your side and we all have to stick together with out EGOS
I'm not joking about the chip.
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http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Chip_Implants/index.html
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Sorry if this is off the topic but in a way it is not
Tech know-logy to rule the world.
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Don't forget I'm on your side just passing on info
Thank you
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ugotit33 please answer Russ( Overloaded) question so others can be helped following this thread.
YIPPIEEEEEEEEE ! ! !
Would you be so kind as to tell us what the problem was and what you did to fix it ? ? ? ..... Please ?
Thanks,
Russ
Dave
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Afraid I think the guy has just been having fun or he has just lost the plot all together.
Hood
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I'm not sure if this comment was for me Mr Hood but if it was get a life you are out of line
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OK U asked for it brother Budman68 for you
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Mr hood said Mach does not care about LPT1 OR LPT2 just the address
Good advice = Key to make me think.
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So MACH should list it as port address not LPT WHAT EVER NUMBER
Flaw # 1 suppose to be plug and play BS
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Second NOT MANY run into the problem because they have a PCB
that has a parallel port on it. So they get LPT1 right off the bat LUCKY THEM
In this case you can read the address in device manager
Easy piece of cake.
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Third if you have to use a add in card Like I did PCI
Windows and the venders of the the WIN SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE, MOB
*********ED UP
You CAN NOT get an address with this card in the device manager.
It does not give you the option of resources
By the way I ran a lot of third party software to find the problem.
My software said LPT BUT may be an on board modem ( KEy right there) conflict already.
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My tip off was you need an LPT ADDRESS Thank you Mr Hood
Thank you to my third party software back in the days of win 3.11 for work groups.
Yea I Kept all the nifty short great programs.
Also at the command prompt you can run LPT1 ETC to see if you get a signal.
Took me back 20 years/
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So my last resort before upgrading the BIOS because in some Bios
on a particular board you can change the port but not on mine.
Was to return the PCI which kept picking LPT1
Returning it for a refund, going to another computer store and buying a PCI E card.
PCI - E CARD
Goes in a different slot chances where it would pick another port and I could
read the resources in the device manager. Where I was able to get the addresses.
Now come the hard labor of learning MACH ETC.
THANK YOU TO ALL WHO HAVE GIVE IMPUT
CHEERS.
We are in this together
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ERROR TYPO SHOULD BE PICKING LPT3
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Great, glad you got it sorted and thank you for posting how.
Dave
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I have a life thanks, sometimes I wonder if I waste too much time helping or trying to help people though ;)
BTW it is Hood, no Mr needed, I am not that formal ;)
Hood
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Hood Brother if I may
Helping people is not a waste we all need it, in one form or another.
I picked it up on what you said. It helped for sure. Thank you
May attitude and language is different but we are all on this planet together.
If we all pitch in we all benefit.
Thanks again
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Then please do not take offence at this :)
You said
So MACH should list it as port address not LPT WHAT EVER NUMBER
Flaw # 1 suppose to be plug and play BS
Now there is your main problem, Mach does not call it LPT anything, it says Port #1 and Port #2
Hood
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Well then
Since we are using Parallel port I called it a LPT NOT COM PORT
Brother you do not get it
I don't have a problem you should chose your wording a little more polite
I'M OUT OF HERE LIKE YOU WOULD SAY
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Sorry to see you go, just watch out for the implants ;)
Hood