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Mach Discussion => Mach Screens => Works in progress => Topic started by: cdballew on February 11, 2013, 11:16:20 AM

Title: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on February 11, 2013, 11:16:20 AM
Here is a bare-bones screen set I've been working on. It's loosely based on the physical control panel of an old NC turret punch press I operated some time ago.
The machine originally ran from a punch-card type tape strip and was later upgraded to a DOS based system.

I'm making it for my home-built machine. Because I'm a novice user, it has only one screen with the most basic features.

I'm thinking of adding another screen for a larger tool path view.
Are there any other must-have features you think I might need to add?
I'm currently adding features that use knobs instead of buttons.
Let me know if you have any ideas for other "themed" type layouts, or ways I can add to the novelty of this one.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s104/cdballew/RouterVac2000.jpg)
  
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on February 11, 2013, 11:27:43 AM
Excellent work - I love the 'vintage' theme.  8)

Tweakie.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on February 11, 2013, 11:53:02 AM
Thanks Tweakie, It's my first attempt. I wanted to do something different from the screen sets I've seen.

I'm using Screen4 and I can't seem to find any good tutorials, so it's been rough going.

I also have Machscreen.
I keep hearing it's better but once again I can't seem to find any good tutorials and it's not at all intuitive  to me.

Links anyone?

Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: Chaoticone on February 11, 2013, 12:02:59 PM
Good job, Same idea I had with Fanuc 0ld school.  Just made me feel more comfortable.

http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,6204.msg44966.html#msg44966


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kd-dietz.com%2Fklausphp%2Fpages%2Feng%2Fmachscreen%2Fdescription%2Fms_description.html&ei=ACMZUe7QIoae8QTyloDQBA&usg=AFQjCNE8se2ntm6Uh_FOiQ_G8ccMJGoPNQ

Brett
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on February 12, 2013, 12:15:12 PM
Here's an updated screen cap along with the 1024 X 768 set file.

Give it a go when you have time to play. I think I got most of the bugs out.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: Pythagoras on June 22, 2013, 08:38:19 PM
I love it !!!
Sort of reminds me of Zathura.
nice work !
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: Pythagoras on June 22, 2013, 08:43:23 PM
it would be great if it was possible to have the  DRO readout fonts to look like the old electromechanical rotating digit display !
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on June 23, 2013, 01:43:28 PM
Thanks Pythagoras
it would be great if it was possible to have the  DRO readout fonts to look like the old electromechanical rotating digit display !

That would be perfect! I wonder if it is possible? Probably not.
Have you tried using this set?
Any feedback is welcome from all.

I've been using it for a few months now. I still have some bugs that I've learned to deal with, but I'd still like to fix.
I need some help, would another thread be more appropriate maybe? anyone?


1. If I press the 'Home' button after using auto tool zero, X and Y go home as they should and their DRO's show the correct coordinates.
I don't have home/limit switches on my Z axis so it stays where auto tool zero told it to go, but the DRO will change to some random number sometime.
This caused me to bury the tool in my work piece a couple of times.

2. When I press load G-Code, about half of the button stays in the pressed position, not always.
I've checked the button graphic and even tried replacing it with another graphic, still the same.

3. I need an ignore tool-change LED

Some more little things I can't think of right now.

Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: ger21 on June 23, 2013, 02:00:02 PM
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1. If I press the 'Home' button after using auto tool zero, X and Y go home as they should and their DRO's show the correct coordinates.
I don't have home/limit switches on my Z axis so it stays where auto tool zero told it to go, but the DRO will change to some random number sometime.
This caused me to bury the tool in my work piece a couple of times.

When you auto Zero the Z axis, you're setting an offset for the Z axis. This offset is the position relative to machine zero for the Z axis.

Then, when you Home the Z axis, it's setting machine coordinates for the Z axis to 0. If the Z wasn't homed before running the auto zero, then most likely, your Z position will change.
Note that when you home an axis with no home switch, it will set machine zero to the current position of that axis.

The proper procedure should always be to home the machine first, then run the auto zero. Always set the axis to zero prior to running the g-code, as homing after setting zero will most likely change the zero positions.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: Pythagoras on June 23, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
Thanks Pythagoras
That would be perfect! I wonder if it is possible? Probably not.
Have you tried using this set?
Any feedback is welcome from all.

Maybe there is a VB method, but that is beyond me. I'm sure if the whole screen was made in the flash format that it would be possible to have such rotating digits, but its been years and It would be a struggle to remember.
I wouldn't start a new thread this one would do fine. It creates more interest too.
Sorry I cant be much help these days, I only just checked in to see how people were progressing in the screen design department. (Its another hobby in itself)

Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: turbothis on July 12, 2013, 01:50:23 PM
man, i really want this for my old knee mill conversion but the screencomes up as a only some of the buttons and the majority of the screen is just black?
is the screen download bad or am i doing something wrong on my side?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on July 12, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
Quote
1. If I press the 'Home' button after using auto tool zero, X and Y go home as they should and their DRO's show the

correct coordinates.
I don't have home/limit switches on my Z axis so it stays where auto tool zero told it to go, but the DRO will change to some

random number sometime.
This caused me to bury the tool in my work piece a couple of times.

When you auto Zero the Z axis, you're setting an offset for the Z axis. This offset is the position relative to machine zero

for the Z axis.

Then, when you Home the Z axis, it's setting machine coordinates for the Z axis to 0. If the Z wasn't homed before running the

auto zero, then most likely, your Z position will change.
Note that when you home an axis with no home switch, it will set machine zero to the current position of that axis.

The proper procedure should always be to home the machine first, then run the auto zero. Always set the axis to zero prior to

running the g-code, as homing after setting zero will most likely change the zero positions.

Soooo, you're saying it's operator error. I'm sure that's the cause of many of my problems.


Thanks Pythagoras
That would be perfect! I wonder if it is possible? Probably not.
Have you tried using this set?
Any feedback is welcome from all.

Maybe there is a VB method, but that is beyond me. I'm sure if the whole screen was made in the flash format that it would be

possible to have such rotating digits, but its been years and It would be a struggle to remember.
I wouldn't start a new thread this one would do fine. It creates more interest too.
Sorry I cant be much help these days, I only just checked in to see how people were progressing in the screen design

department. (Its another hobby in itself)




Yeah, I had to make myself stop playing around with screen design and start working with my machine.

man, i really want this for my old knee mill conversion but the screencomes up as a only some of the buttons and the majority

of the screen is just black?
is the screen download bad or am i doing something wrong on my side?

I think the background image might be in the wrong folder.
Here is a newer version. Just unzip it to your bitmaps folder.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: turbothis on July 13, 2013, 01:49:11 AM
great!
works now
thanks
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on July 13, 2013, 05:30:56 AM
Good to hear!
I look forward to hearing some feedback.
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: ger21 on July 13, 2013, 07:49:33 AM
Quote
Soooo, you're saying it's operator error.
Well, since you put it that way, yes. ;)

It's really just a matter of understanding the relationship with homing, machine coordinates, and offsets, and what really happens when you zero an axis.

There's a pretty good video here that covers all these things. "Homing, Limits and Offsets" here: http://www.machsupport.com/videos/
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: clemclem on October 15, 2017, 04:36:20 PM
Here is a bare-bones screen set I've been working on. It's loosely based on the physical control panel of an old NC turret punch press I operated some time ago.
The machine originally ran from a punch-card type tape strip and was later upgraded to a DOS based system.

I'm making it for my home-built machine. Because I'm a novice user, it has only one screen with the most basic features.

I'm thinking of adding another screen for a larger tool path view.
Are there any other must-have features you think I might need to add?
I'm currently adding features that use knobs instead of buttons.
Let me know if you have any ideas for other "themed" type layouts, or ways I can add to the novelty of this one.

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s104/cdballew/RouterVac2000.jpg)
 


hello !

when i open your theme with machscreen, it tells me that some few files are missing (in the folder Blue N Gray),
car you update it with these files ?
Title: Re: "Vintage" Screen Set
Post by: cdballew on October 15, 2017, 06:40:27 PM
Hey clemclem,

I'm not sure what is going on with that.The files are probably in the wrong folder.
 It has been a long time since I've done any screen set editing
 and the files I have here on my home computer are a mess.

When I go to the shop tomorrow I'll see if I can zip the final version. I've been using it for almost five years.
It has a "Run From Here" button
A "limit Override" switch, and a couple of other minor changes.