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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: BR549 on January 05, 2013, 06:09:11 PM
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Cleaning up some old macros and making a new Probing wizard.
(;-) TP
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You are a pain in the arse TP, looks like I will have to eventually hook up some wires to my probe instead of just using the LED and doing it manually ;D
Looks very interesting :)
Hood
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Looks good 8)
Tweakie.
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Agreed, looks great-
Dave
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Thanks for the work TP....looks like a keeper to me.
RICH
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Can anyone think of ANY other probing routines that need to be covered ?
(;-) TP
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Hi Terry,
For some of us who aren't entirely sure what each probing routine picture shows, maybe a brief description of each would help sort out what you already have in mind, and possibly what someone else may need/want?
Dave
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Can anyone think of ANY other probing routines that need to be covered ?
(;-) TP
How about edge/wall probing routine like Stirlings program does that will follow around the perimeter of some shape and records the X&Y coordinates into CSV data? Then that CSV data can be imputed in for the 3D digitizing routine so it will only digitize within that shape to save time. Also something that will convert the CSV data generated to a G-code or STL file. Should I continue? ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9skopcbhurU
Jeff
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THese are probing routines for 2.5d / mechanical work.
Stirling is working on a new improved version of the creepy crawler type 3d digitizing routine.
There are programs that already do all the rest(;-)
(;-) TP
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Stirlings probing routine does not have a 4th axis option, so how about that? Lets say you have a figurine you want to 3D digitize all the way around with your rotary. How about styli ball diameter compensation for the 3D digitizing too? I see that is one of your routines.
Can you also have 3D digitizing routine retract to some distance from the last probe point instead of it doing a full retract in Z every time? Like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYJU1kwtzV4 It also saves it as a STL file which would be a plus too. I'm sorry if I am being a pain in the butt.
Thanks. Jeff
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Mach3 already has Probe Tip comp (X/Y). Z is not required.
I think I have already done a 4th axis 3d routine. That is a simple one.
I have a simple creepy crawler Macro routine that is similar to the LinuxCNC SmartProbe Routine that I am testing but it is 3dsurface only macro. AND there is no assurance it will be stable as a mach3 macro.
Stirling is the ONE that may provide the Complete 3d probing solution. Probing Outside of Gcode in MACH3 is not easy to master. There be Dragons to contend with in Mach3 CB.
File conversion from inside MACH3 is WELL outside the scope of simple Wizards. (;-) THere are already solutions for that available. It may be possible to create a wizard that gives you the OPTION to process the Points file into a STL using The Mach points converter. Then the final product would be a simple STL
NOW one problem with developement IS Mach3V4 will be totally different macro wise than Mach3. NOTHING macro wise should interchange.
I am just cleaning out some old macros and creating Wizards so they can still be used and be available THEN I will file 13 all the old stuff.
(;-) TP
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Yes I had an old 4th axis dig wizard but I dressed it up a bit. I also have a LATHE version
(;-) TP
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TP,
Are the wizards posted that you have been working on or just for private use?
RICH
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There is some cleanup yet to do and some more testing of moduals but they will be released Here on the MACH support site. Most of it is OLD stuff I have been running from macros AND command line input . It just needed some powder on the pig's face to make it sweet looking.
Yes they are real (;-)
(;-) TP
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Here is Turn Probe. IF yall see something that needs to be added to any of the wizards please let me know. It is easier to work it out now than later. AND YES I know that is NOT a good picutre of a CNC lathe IF you have a good picture that needs to be used instead of the drawing SPEAK UP.
(;-) TP
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Very Very Nice good work there...
when and where can we get em matey! would like to start Probing!
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What type of probing are you interested in . I need to finish cleaning up and and add some safety codes to all of them.
Which wizard are you interested in? Maybe I can finish that one first.
(;-) TP
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I have placed a couple of NEW probing Wizards in the MACH TOOL BOX
4th axis probing for digitizing an object in A axis
Turn Probing for digitizing an object.
(;-) TP
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There used to be a probing plugin for Mach... I can't find it anymore? Is it not in the newer versions?
I used to be able to find it in my plugin control tab... not there anymore?
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TP - Thanks for all your efforts on probing. My interest is in having a general purpose probe wizard or screen that could be used for setups. A fixture is great for making large numbers of items, but if you only want 3 or 4, it is helpful to be able to probe each work piece for location and orientation - esp if they are second and third operations. The screen you show earlier in the thread seems to address the things that I want to do - link the probe results to offsets so you can just probe the part and run it.
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Cleaning up some old macros and making a new Probing wizard.
(;-) TP
TP,
What happened to the Probing/digitizing Wizard? I could not find it in the toolbox download. There was lathe and 4th axis, but not this one.
Thanks. Jeff
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OK WHICH one are you referring to ?
IF it is the 3d digitizing wizard it was removed from the site. Due to changes in MAch3 it no longer worked correctly.
(;-) TP
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It's the one you posted a picture off at the start of this thread.
Thanks. Jeff
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Jeff still cleaning up and testing macros for that one. The basics are done .
(;-) TP
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Thank you for all your hard work on the wizards and will look forward trying that one out.
Jeff
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Ditto's !
Thanks TP,
Russ
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TP, any update as to when you will make available the ProbeMasterV101 wizard? It has couple routines that I need that are not in the current wizard I use. You do great work.
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Just a bump to learn the status of the wizard.
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OK time to start work on the wizard again. So far this seems like a clunky process from a wizard. What it will do is write the Probing G code to Mach3 to process. A screen set makes more sense.
You thoughts, (;-) TP
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TP, have you managed to get this working again?
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A question for YALL. Would you want the wizard to create a gcode and load back to MAch3 OR would you want it to RUN the Probe code from the wizard in real time.
(;-) TP
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Ideally I'm looking for some way to probe a part to create DXF for STL file, is this possible?
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The ONLY current way to do that is to use the OLD " free" Probing wizard in mach3. It is SLOW but dependable. It creates a Points File that you can use to create a STL file.
The wizard I have and working on is for 2d probing solutions.
(;-) TP
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Hmm......
Like one for just finding the touch off and populating a tool table?
Your invited to the LUA party. ;)
RICH
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Rich call me when that roasted pig is done (;-)
Lua Louie, (;-) TP
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:D :D :D :D
Bring your owne beer this time. ;D
RICH
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2D probing would also be very handy
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Gee wiz I hate to add to a Thread this old, BUT does anyone have a probing or Software for Mach3 done yet. No not for free, I am willing to pay for something that works.
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wmgeorge,
There are probing wizards that are available for Mach3. Been some time since I did a search of what is available
out there both for a cost and free. You will need to do a search to find something which satisfies your requirements
as they are all different but similar. None of the ones I looked were to my liking. The real question is just what does one want to do with the probed information. Here are some examples to consider:
- Just locate a reference to set the machine start point or find some feature location
- For what kind of machine ie; lathe, mill, router, etc.
- What kind of output do you want from the probing, and what additional features do you want from the wizard.
IE; point information, generate Gcode for what was probed, generate a DXF file or whatever for use in CAD,
auto update the data for later use, modfiy other Mach 3 info ie ( like the tool table)
- How will you probe ie; Laser, manual, automated, etc.
- 2D or 3D probing
There is no "universal" probing that will satisfy every desire.
RICH
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Well I wanted the one that creates a point cloud, I can lay an object on the router table and probe XY&Z. YES I have been searching and nothing comes up. That is why I asked the question on the Mach3 Forum. I have the Probe It one and it works fine, creates a nice DXF file. But I still need the 2.5 D probe capabilities.
Since the board has been down for repairs and the Search engine out for months I have not checked back in.