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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: B. Ender on January 17, 2007, 08:47:54 PM

Title: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 17, 2007, 08:47:54 PM
I have been using mach3 for little over a year with a dell laptop with no problems.  I started having some problems with my machine and in the process of troubleshooting it I fried my laptop. I did my repairs on my machine and replaced the laptop with an identicle one to eliminate the whole Mach vs. laptop issues. When I run a circle program to identify any inconsistancies I get occasional machine stalls. These stalls are completly random in timing, duration and even axis. I have noticed no patterns in these stalls. I ran the circle test in a continous loop for an hour and a half with my desktop pc without failiure, so I believe this must be a laptop issue. I am totally baffled though as I am running an identicle system that had worked flawlessly for a year. I have installed and reinstalled mach and the entire os for that matter and compared side by side all the mach settings with my desktop. I have followed the optimazation file as I had on the previous laptop and the driver tests pass with flying colors. This is actually a short list of all I had done to try and isolate the problem but the end result is the same. I am out of ideas. When I decide to giveup and just go with a desktop I will still always wonder.
 Brandy Ender
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 17, 2007, 09:31:07 PM
Hey B. Ender
I hope you get it sorted. I don't know how they pack so many Gremlins in those little laptops. ;D Keep us posted on your findings. I had some really strange things going on with my desktop. Narrowed it down to the wireless network. Do you have a wireless network on your laptop? If so, what kind is it?

Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 17, 2007, 09:58:10 PM
Yes it has a built in wireless (so did the old system) but I know little about it as I have never used it.  What brought you to think of your wireless?

 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 17, 2007, 10:09:17 PM
I had no troubles before I installed it. Once I installed it I got some really ugly talk at times when I would send a file to it via wireless. Things like " your system has encountered a major error and must restart." Scarry. I ran some cat 5 cable and smooth as silk ever since.


Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: ardor on January 18, 2007, 04:49:30 AM
I just finished puting the PC I set up, for my mill, out in the shop.  Put a cute little USB NIC on it.  I won't need to use it while running the mill, so I hope that disabling it in the device manager until I need it would cancel potential problems ?? ???

Edit: Or is this more of a laptop issue?
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 18, 2007, 05:45:00 AM
Hey Ardor,
    My problem was on a desktop. I don't know what it didn't like about the wireless network, but it didn't like it at all. Mixed like oil and water. :'(


Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 18, 2007, 08:19:22 AM
One more differance I have noticed between laptop and desktop. In the diagnostics page the Port1 Pins Current State. More of these are lit up on the desktop than on the laptop.  What do these lights actually represent??
 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Brian Barker on January 18, 2007, 08:26:55 AM
You need to lock the network speed and that should fix the problem :)
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 18, 2007, 08:39:07 AM
Hey Brandy,
    If I'm not mistaken, it means they are high. In other words, if the led is lit up where you have an active high set limit switch, Mach sees that limit switch as tripped, or made throwing an e-stop. Does this help?


Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 18, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
Brian ,
 How do you go about doing that?


Brett,
This sounds logical but does not explain why thge desktop and laptop show differant when they are set up exactly the same.

Thanks for the ideas this really is helping,  Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 18, 2007, 03:21:37 PM
Brandy, Have you viewed topic (Please Help) in General Mach dicussion?

Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 18, 2007, 05:22:36 PM
Brandy, Have you viewed topic (Please Help) in General Mach dicussion?

Brett

Brett,
 I have now. I have never used my network card and recently disabled it just to see what happened. No change to my problems. Also I have never had the erratic driver test results he is getting. My driver tests look good.

Brandy 
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 18, 2007, 05:34:18 PM
What is your debounce set at?


Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 18, 2007, 10:17:46 PM
Debounce?? I apologize for my newby ignorance.
 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 19, 2007, 05:58:59 AM
Brandy,
    I will be out today but the rest of the guys will help. What version of Mach are you running? Mach 3 version 2.0.??

Brett

Edit,
   I meant to tell you that the later versions have it in the top right corner of general config.
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 19, 2007, 07:07:17 AM
Version is 2.026 debounce is currently 0
 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 19, 2007, 07:58:21 PM
Hey Brandy,
    Download the latest version and set your debounce to 100. You shouldn't have to, but I would back up my xml just in case.

Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 20, 2007, 08:35:51 AM
Done, No change....
 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Chaoticone on January 20, 2007, 09:30:19 PM
 >:( This is eating at me also Brandy. I know laptops do give a lot of trouble but as you said, identical should work I would think. I have sent you a PM.


Brett
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 21, 2007, 10:50:54 AM
>:( This is eating at me also Brandy. I know laptops do give a lot of trouble but as you said, identical should work I would think. I have sent you a PM.


Brett

Misery loves company.. :-\ I replied to your PM
 Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: Brian Barker on January 22, 2007, 11:20:08 PM
So how is the Driver test looking? ( just have to know ;) )
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on January 23, 2007, 07:23:20 AM
The driver test has always looked good in standard pc and fails miserably in acpi.


I was given another older desktop to try out and will be testing it. I will let everybody know how that is going when I know more.
Brandy
Title: Re: stalling
Post by: B. Ender on February 01, 2007, 09:01:55 AM
I have been busy lately with inrelated items but did find some time to test the new system.the same as my L
 First I set up the new system in standard pc ( the driver test showed very few glitches) ran my tests and it showed the same stalling that the laptop had. I switched the new system over to ACPI and it ran quite well despite a less impressive driver test. I cannot test the laptop in ACPI as it will complain non stop.
 Brandy