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Title: Galil Connector
Post by: Holzwurm56 on June 28, 2012, 02:13:23 AM
Hi ,
does some knows the name of the Gali connector ? Looks like scsi with 100 pins .
I never find it in Germany , where can I get some ?

Thanks

Hans
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: Marty_Escarcega on July 03, 2012, 07:37:03 AM
Yes, High Density SCSI II connector. ICM1900 or 2900 are typical break out boards for them. Which model do you have?
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: Holzwurm56 on July 27, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
Hi ,
I have DMC-1785 with ISA-Bus and a DMC 2160 as standalone controller .

Thanks
Hans
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: Marty_Escarcega on July 27, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
Hi ,
I have DMC-1785 with ISA-Bus and a DMC 2160 as standalone controller .

Thanks
Hans

You will need two breakout boards & cables if you intend to use more than 4 axis. Circuitspecialists.com has a cable and a din rail mounted terminal block, I would rather use the ICM1900 or 2900 as everything is neatly labeled.
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: coolfox on December 06, 2013, 09:21:06 AM
Would like to contribute back to society :
"Galil connectors" Top quality 100pin made in Japan available through RS-components.com Stock No; 749-4825  they also have shrouds and other - 80pin and 36 pin  of the same type with go to Galil ( mine 2260 )
This stock number mentioned is for Plug Cable mount MDR 101 series for flat ribbon ( computer ATA kinda cable) I have bought "solder bucket" of the same type for Mitsubishi Melservo range if you like soldering your wires :-) .


Ilia
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: smurph on December 10, 2013, 12:40:16 AM
Nice!  Thanks Ilia!

Steve
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: coolfox on December 10, 2013, 05:35:23 AM
Steve Thanks again for very motivating post :-) 
 
Made some experiments with cables connectors Mitsu MR J2 10A and Mr J2S 40A + Galil DMC-2260 ( galil is pain looks like I got some OEM but manage to install 1.0q firmware on the end ;-) This one is 12 MhZ differential encoder input controller it is not a lot consider modern 17bit Mitsu encoders ! 
I decide to make my very own cables reason one been- reliability with every connector every screw on the 100 pin cables is simply reduce the odds consider high vibration environment doesn't look good, financially ether ( cost of Cables and two ICM2900!) . Second - the Mitsu amps have very standard A B Z differential encoder outputs so need no ground no encoder power, amp enable and logic ground - total 10 wires.  Plus analog command screen single core an this is it if we talking connections in between Galil and Mitsu I certanly manage this much.
 
One question I have for Galil Gurus. In torque mode Mitsu maxing out on torque @ +- 8V were Galil output +-10 is not creating much of problem but reducing dynamic range of controller - is it possible to adjust this 10V in Galil and witch commands to burn?
 
Right testing - using standard 1.25mm pitch flat ribbon No shielded ( screen ) .
 
Mitsu Mr-j2 have no issues @3000rpm 8192 pulses per revolution with flat ribbon cable 2Meters long ( newer need this longer than 1/2Meter) spread on the floor pulse train just under 409600Hz, in differential seems to work with no hiccups pulse train on Galil end looks nice and clean ( digital oscilloscope used) 
 
Mitsu Mrj2s  131072 puces per revolution encoder @3000 rpm ( now I know why Mitsu have electronic gearing on digital input :-) 6,553,600 Hz frequency and still looks clean !! Lets add some power cables from the motor to the mix ( sorry motor ain't loaded - not much current through cables) ok + 1kW builders halogen cable ON/Off/On... and all working!
 
 Conclusion I'm not spending money on Two ICM-2900 breakout things :-) and screened 100Way cables :-))
When finished and tested properly I'll publish schematics or offer ready made Direct Cables MItsu-Galil brand :-)
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: smurph on December 10, 2013, 01:38:44 PM
Ilia, you can limit the output voltage with the TL command.  I use it on my Matsuura because the amplifiers actually take a -6 to +6 voltage range.  Galil is VERY handy when running obscure stuff.  :)

Steve
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: coolfox on December 10, 2013, 04:47:49 PM
Steve, you a star !
I guess something like this for +8 to -8  ?
TLA=8;  'Torque Limit
TLB=8;  'Torque Limit
TLC=8;  'Torque Limit
TLD=8;  'Torque Limit
TLE=8;  'Torque Limit
BN;  'Burn Parameters

What about Drive enable output command delay did you know?
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: smurph on December 10, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
Yes, exactly like that.

Drive enable is a function of the Mach enables.  I believe you can stagger the enable delay in Mach 3, but I do not know how.  You may want to pose that question in the General section.

Steve
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: Hood on December 12, 2013, 05:05:45 PM


Drive enable is a function of the Mach enables.  I believe you can stagger the enable delay in Mach 3, but I do not know how.  You may want to pose that question in the General section.

Steve


I think it is pre-set in Mach and you can not change. I cant recall the time differences but Enable 1 is first then a short time later Enable 2 etc.

Hood
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: coolfox on December 13, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
Thanks Hood
I understand the great idea to lower the shoke load on mains get distributed over switching the drives 1 at the time, slight picle with Mtsu there not enoth delay as I us diffeent power drives and they have diferent tme delays on they own and some time two 400W ones click together they trigger RCD right away  >:D.  Should I use just ordinary fuse?

Thanks
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: Hood on December 13, 2013, 05:36:18 PM
Probably a D Rated breaker would be fine.
Hood
Title: Re: Galil Connector
Post by: bbutcher on November 18, 2014, 08:20:08 AM
A similar connector is available in the US from Digikey, P/N 5175677-9-ND with ribbon cable P/N MB100G-5-ND for 5 foot cable. From what I can tell it should work, but have not tried it.