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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: mvoros on June 26, 2012, 01:42:15 PM

Title: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 26, 2012, 01:42:15 PM
Hi Hood,
After about 5 years of tying to post on this forum, a nice guy called Jim told me how to start my tread and said you are the right person to talk to.
I have an unusual problem with my Jcut6090 router bought from China. It was built as a 3 axis with a rotary, with MACH3 running the router. It uses a USB  port. I was misslead to believe it was a 4 axis machine witch I have asked for. The router worked as they built it. I ordered a new stepper driver, and proceded to set it up to be a 4 axis machine. I wired the X and the A driver exactly as the Y&Z is done. Trying it out, found the X going in the wrong direction, in homing as well as pressing the arrow key on the keyboard. On the Motor Home/SoftLimits page clicked X reverse, the X still goes the wrong direction. Checked all the wire connections, they all are tight. Is there a setting in mach3 configurations, where I can switch the X axis direction, or do I have to change the motor wires for this axis.
Please help me out.
Mike Voros
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: jimthefish on June 26, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Hi its jim again, you've got it, however Hood has replied on my thread have a look. Jim
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 26, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
I'm sorry about that Jim. I don't know how to approach him now. He is asking for my xml fie, and I don't know how to even attach it.
Mike.
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: jimthefish on June 26, 2012, 02:58:36 PM
OK your xtml file is in your mach folder, whatever you named the profile, mine is triac.xtml. If you find it copy it because if your computer goes down this file has all your setting for your machine. It stores all your pin connections, directions and setting information. Thats why hood need it, he can look and tell you what pins are correct and what you need to change If you find the file copy and save it on your computer, then on an external store so if your computer fails you wont have to re-assign all you connections. When you reply to the Mach thread click on additional options, you will see attach a file, attach your xtml to it. Hood will look and solve your problem. Just for reference most problems are down to pin direction and assignment, mine was just a loose wire, checking all your connections I could not find anything wrong but I must have made the connection by just moving the wires on my Break out Board. Good luck, Jim
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 26, 2012, 03:10:56 PM
Thank Jim, you are a scolar and a gentleman.
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 26, 2012, 03:46:36 PM
Hi Mike, just attach your xml in here if you wish.
To see what name of file to look for if you open Mach and look lower right you will see Profile and then a name, the name is what you want to look for in your main Mach3 folder. If its a standard profile name such as Mach3Mill you will need to copy the file to some loaction on your computer then rename it as the forum only accepts a file name to be attached once and the standard profiles will already have been attached.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 26, 2012, 04:36:58 PM
Hi,
Forgive my lack of knowledge over this posting issue. I have tried many ways to attach the xml file but no luck. In the Mach3 directory there is a subdir.called xml backups. Here are all the previous xml backups, the latest one is today's JCut_Router.xb32. I did copy it to my other computer, rename it with xlm extention. Tried to attach it, it didn't go thru. Than I opened it with my brouser, tried to attach it that way, and I think the file size was too large it timed out. Next I used the WinRAR to compress it, and now I like you to tell me if this is how to get this file to you PPPlease.Mike

Ps. Is a rar file ok for you?
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 26, 2012, 04:48:44 PM
The file should be in the main folder rather than the backup but if you cant find it then a backup will do although it could possibly be a bit different if you have changed anything recently.
Just to clarify the extension should be xml rather than xlm and that may be why it wont attach.
If you wish RAR is fine.
If you still have issues send me a private message with your email address and I will send an email so that you can attach your xml to the reply to me.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 27, 2012, 09:03:40 AM
Hi Hood,
Some additional information about this machine. It has Jamen-40M (Compatible with Mach3) driver(?), and has a USB PLCX 6045M control card in it. The stepper drivers are Leadshine M542-05. Supposed to run at 100k pulse frequency. Like I said everything worked fine, until I separated the rotary axis wire and hooked up the motor wires to the X axis controller exactly as the Y & Z is wired.
Hope the xml file attaches this time. If it doesn't, than here is my email address ( don't know yours ): ncpro@cogeco.ca
Thanks
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 27, 2012, 11:25:23 AM
Ok dont know anything about that USB controller but you dont have any pins or port numbers for any of the Axis. I would imagine you would need them set up but possibly that is done in the plugin?
Do you have a link to the USB controller and possibly a link to the manual for it?
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 27, 2012, 02:38:04 PM
Hi Friend,
I can't send you the manual, tried many ways, no luck . The file times out, it's too large (15MB ). Please give me an email address, maybe that will work.
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 27, 2012, 03:38:50 PM
pm sent
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 27, 2012, 05:34:16 PM
Sorry my Friend,  I have to give it up for today, I tried to split the file, couldn't, don't know how. Down loaded a program to do the splitting, it screwed up my whole system. Had to revert  the computer to yesterday. Also sent it as an attachment in the e-mail, it didn't go thru. If you know of a way to split it, please let me know. ;D
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 27, 2012, 05:42:01 PM
Do you not have a link to the website of the machine controller? I could maybe download the manual from there.
I use winrar to compress and email files, you just right click on the file you want to email and choose compress and email and you then have options to split it into smaller chunks.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 27, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
I do have a link to their website, but everything on it is in Chinese.    http://www.jamen-nc.com     I also have winRAR and have tried that 3x today, told it to split into 5MB sizes, but it didn't seem to do it. The file was compressed from 15MB to 11.3MB, and that also acceded the server's limit too.
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 28, 2012, 02:58:44 AM
That link seems to be about gas cookers, no wonder you cant get things running correctly ;D
Joking aside, do you have to set up port and pin numbers for the axis? If you do, which I think is likely, then you have not done that as in the xml you attached they were all 0.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 28, 2012, 06:29:51 AM
This I know, however the machine was working fine with those zeros. direction problem started after I separated the wires from the rotary plug and wired the motor wires into the controller. I'll try to split the manual into smaller chunks today, because I think the answer lies in that manual somehow.
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 28, 2012, 03:05:43 PM
Hello Hood,
I wonder if you received the manual files. I bought a PDF editor, and was able to break the file into 7 manageable files. Also sent 3 pictures of whats inside the controll cabinet.
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 28, 2012, 06:10:33 PM
All looks fine and I see in the manual that the axis are specific pins and Mach only needs set as axis enabled. It also says in the manual that to change an axis direction you use the Dir active state, I mentioned that in the other thread but not sure if you tried it? Normally you can either select the reverse in Homing and Limits or change the Dir active state and they will do the same thing but possibly the plugin for this device only looks at the active state of the Dir pin and thus selecting reverse has no effect.
Anyway change the active state of the X direction pin and see if that helps.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 29, 2012, 07:17:37 AM
Thanks for the info. Could you tell me on what page will I find the DIR active function, I looked for that before but couldn't locate it.
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 29, 2012, 08:56:27 AM
I'm forever in your debt Hood. Reading over the Mach manual, I realised that the only page I didn't screen capture was the Motor Output page, that's why I couldn't find it. Now the X axis is working right. I don't remember altering those settings. I guess old age is creeping upon me.
I' glad this issue is solved.
Many thanks,
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 29, 2012, 01:34:01 PM
Glad to hear you got it going :)
BTW it is a very tidy looking cabinet, wiring is one of the best I have seen in a bought machine and definitely the best Chinese one I have seen.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: mvoros on June 29, 2012, 03:57:41 PM
That is very reassuring to hear it from you. The machine itself is also very clean and extremely well built. So far I'm pleased with it. The frame is cast iron, the gentry is cast aluminum, square (hiwin rails on all 3 axis) couldn't ask for a more sturdy machine. The rotary is able to take a 36" long piece of wood along the Y axis. There are a few manufacturers that make the JCut 6090 routers, at various prices, I ordered mine from JINAN JCUT CNC EQUIPMENT CO.,LTD and including delivery to my house, broker fees, it came to a total of US$4628.00. However, everything really depends on the skill of the person putting it together, or so I hear. I'm attaching a picture of the machine as it sit on the floor of the manufacturer.
Have a wonderfull day,
Mike
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: Hood on June 29, 2012, 06:38:28 PM
It does indeed look like a solid router and that price seems very reasonable, especially with  the quality of the control panel wiring.
Hood
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: fabrun on September 21, 2012, 08:08:30 AM
hi
i'm a new owner of a jcut 60100
does someone have the driver for this jamen board please
without it, i can't drive the machine
thanks for any help
fabrice
Title: Re: My X axis headach
Post by: fabrun on September 27, 2012, 11:02:09 PM
i found it