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Third party software and hardware support forums. => NC Pod => Topic started by: kookaburra on January 11, 2007, 09:09:17 PM
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Hi All,
Welcome to the NC Pod topic. This area is intended to discuss the NC Pod and to support those who are new to the device. Although the device is not yet commercially available, feel free to read on as the development team work towards its release. Please do not bother Art directly regarding the NC Pod, rather, post all of your questions here and they will be answered by the appropriate members.
Enjoy the topic, so far the NC Pod is coming along brilliantly.
Take Care
Dave
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i have seen where i can buy 1. it is for beta use. will there be any physical , mechanical difference in this 1 and future ones? what are the differences between the ncpod and yhe g00? just trying to learn all i can. thanks greg
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What is an NC Pod ? What does it do? Is there a photo of one? How much are they?
Just because you know, don't assume we know :)
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Greg,
The Beta version is purely for those who want to be a part of the testing period. There will be an updated Pod eventually with some changes and many additions. So far the NC Pod is a USB device with a Mach3 Plugin capable of 6 axis control, 4 standard outputs, PWM spindle control, 1 e-stop input, 5 generic inputs and 6 homing switch inputs. I have been testing the pod for some time now and it is at the stage where the above items I have mentioned are working floorlessly. The motion from Mach3 is silky smooth. The best thing about the device is that apart from a few pin settings to configure in Mach3 ports and pins, the device is just plug and play, unlike a few other devices that need a good deal of hardware configuration prior to use.
There will be a version released this quater that will have expandable I/O and handle many other functions like smart tool changing, digitizing plus many other features that are currently being discussed.
I hope to get some more info up about the pod shortly.
Ben,
Thanks for the poke in the side to get some info on the Pod up for the readers to browse. I will hopefully have a Photo of the Pod, an NC Pod connection and Mach3 setup pdf and a link to see video footage of the NC Pod and Mach3 in operation.
Take Care all
Dave
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Hi All,
Sorry for the large file size. but here is some video footage of my workshop machine running with Mach 3 and the NC Pod. The machine is Servo driven using MCG ID33003 Motors from Dan Mauch and our Tek10 TEKdrives. The spindle is a 2.2Kw 24,000 RPM AC Spindle Motor which is being driven with one of our inverters.
Hope you enjoy it, the file size is 17MB - www.cncteknix.com/video/motiontest.mpg
Dave
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I don't know for sure if this is what the ncpod looks like, but you can remove it if it's incorrect
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Yeah that's what it looks like. After all that is the photo from the manufacturers site. :)
Great to see a forum for the ncPod at last.
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How would you connect the pod to say a Xylotex controller car?
Thanks
David
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It looks to me like you would need to make a rather complicated cable or a adapter / break out board.
I think you will find the next version will allow for more connection types.
Also I did hear that CandCNC is planning addon boards for it. Others will probably do the same as it becomes popular.
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=236619&postcount=18
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Just got my NCpod. I followed all the instructions, Installed the firmware, but I just can't seem to get it to stay comunicating with Mach. Can anyone help me ???
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Can you give any more detail? Are you getting an error?
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How would you connect the pod to say a Xylotex controller car?
Get another cable from Xylotex, cut the parallel port end off, and run the individual wires to the ncPod.
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I got it working. I tried using it without the SD card. I guess I didn't follow the instructions. Works great now.
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Where did you get the NCPod from and how much was it?
Graham.
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Where did you get the NCPod from and how much was it?
Oemtech is providing units on a beta test basis. See the site.
Art is not endorsing this product yet.
I got it working. I tried using it without the SD card. I guess I didn't follow the instructions. Works great now.
What instructions? Am I missing something? :)
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I got this unit to beta test. There isn't much information about it. I did read somewhere that you wouldn't need the SD card. I tried without it (I am beta testing :D). The only instructions are on the OEMtech website.
Load Software
Attach USB cable
Insert SD Card
Connectors designed for 24 AWG (Other gauges available).
Apply Power (+5v Regulated 0.5 Amp to SPI Connector)
Direct 'New Hardware Found' to ncPOD.Inf
Check LED Status:
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Hi Guy's,
Well back from a relaxing weekend. It is great to see the traffic coming through here regarding the Pod.
As Ryan has found out, it is necessary at the moment to use the SD Card on the Pod. For some strange reason, Art has never had to use one during his testing, but Art is the only one. There are other known issues regarding communication to the POD and shortly there will be another thread started that addresses a few of these issues. Most of the issues so far have been with certain computers and their settings or the fact that some have tried to use it with USB 1. USB 2 is necessary to run the Pod. I have notified the Pod Development team that this topic has started and hopefully they will start posting here soon as well.
I will endeavour to finish a basic wiring diagram and Mach setup guide today (Aus time) and post it up here.
Ryan, I agree that the info on the Pod is lacking at the moment, this is one of the main reasons we had this thread started. Please post as many questons as you can so we can compile a good list of FAQ's which will help us put together documentation that covers the main issues of the Beta version of the POD.
Dave
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I think part of beta testing is working without certain things like manuals and diagrams. The NCpod is new and there are not many post here yet. I try to post as much as posible to share my experiences with everyone. If you have an NCpod or are interested in beta testing post here so we can see how big this group is.
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I got everything working inputs, outputs, and homing. I started to run the roadrunner file as a test. I was running at 200IPM and after 30 seconds I lost communication with the pod. To reset the pod I have to turn off and back on and close and open Mach3. I started the roadrunner file again but this time at a slower speed 100IPM this time I lost communication after 1.5 min. I can't really say that speed was related with the loss of communication. I also let the pod just sit for 10 Min's and it stayed in communication with Mach3. Any ideas?
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Ryan, Check 2 things
1. You are using USB 2
2. In the bios settings of your computer, do you have your USB set to "Legacy Mode" ? If you do, disable legacy mode and give it a go, if not, let me know and I will think harder.
Brian B had the same problem and after disabling legacy mode it run fine.
Regards
Dave
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I'll give it a shot. ;D
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That did it :) Now I have one more question. It seems that my motors had more torque using the printer port. What is the differnces between the pulses of the printer port and the pod? Is the pulse width adjustable? Can anyone explain the settings in the Mach3 NCpod driver? Ooooops that was three questions.
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There is a pulse timing problem with the Pod... I had it hooked up to the scope today and tested it to the 9's ;)
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Ryan,
What Brian said is right, Art and the Pod designer are currently working on it, it will be fixed ASAP no doubt.
Dave
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Team,
I am going to start a new thread for support documentation, Tips and Tricks. I will open it with a preliminary connection diagram and basic setup document. If we could reduce the number of questions in the thread it would be great, this will keep the trhread nice and clean and a good p[lace to go for help.
Dave
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Sorry for the large file size. but here is some video footage of my workshop machine running with Mach 3 and the NC Pod. The machine is Servo driven using MCG ID33003 Motors from Dan Mauch and our Tek10 TEKdrives. The spindle is a 2.2Kw 24,000 RPM AC Spindle Motor which is being driven with one of our inverters.
Dave
Thanks for showing the video, looks great. I did get to see a Pod when Pete came visit me before christmas. Certainly looks interesting to me, and so are the little deveopments Pete briefly discussed with me.
So you are getting 18m/min? What motors, encoder count, reduction etc etc.
I wish I had time to play woth one, sometime soon I guess.
Wayne...
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Wayne,
Thanks for the post. My machine is running with Tek10 TEKdrives, MCG ID33003 from Dan Mauch, US Digital E5DM - 500 differential Encoders. 1:1 to a 5 TPI ball Screw.
Developments, Oh Yes, some exciting things happening. Great to hear from you.
Regards
Dave
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Wayne,
I have no idea how you have the time to do all the stuff that you do! It would be so fun to retro the Mill that you did and it looks like you are having a good time with the lathe too... and Here I am Stuck to the KB ;(
Someday!
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Bless your hart Brian. I'd settle for your leftovers. LOL ;D I have seen more post about stuff you have sitting around to play with than.................. well.................. stuff I have to play with. You guys should have fun. You work hard enough. You earn it.
Brett
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I have no idea how you have the time to do all the stuff that you do! It would be so fun to retro the Mill that you did and it looks like you are having a good time with the lathe too... and Here I am Stuck to the KB ;(
Someday indeed Brian LOL... But truthfully just lately I have had what seems to be negative time! The VMC has been running 8am - midnight most days of the week. In fact just the other day I was still working at 2:30am, and took just the one day off over the christmas period. But it was a big job I was never going to turn down...
But I do see some light there at the end of the tunnel, and the Hardinge will kick off again this month. It needs to be anyway as the moment it's able to turn a real job I may be able to take a breather.
Lets hope oneday the POD will also be usable for lathes.
I have even considered a brand new VMC, but have decided maybe later! 50 grand is more than I can afford LOL...
Wayne....
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Still looks like fun from here! 8)
I think the next mill I do will be a VMC that is inclosed... The knee mills are nice but it is time to build a mill that will do 1000IPM with a 10000 Rpm spindle.... may be a bit more then the pod can do ;(
O well it is a dream and I can have it any way I like it!
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....... may be a bit more then the pod can do ;(
O well it is a dream and I can have it any way I like it!
Thanks Brian,
You have just successfully given us a new goal to reach, lol :)
Dave
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I can get a nice mill here in the states for about 10,000 and it would need about 5000 in parts. So for 15000 I can have a mill that will run like a 50,000 + Mill !
So I just have to get the wife warmed up to the idea ;)
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I can get a nice mill here in the states for about 10,000 and it would need about 5000 in parts. So for 15000 I can have a mill that will run like a 50,000 + Mill !
So I just have to get the wife warmed up to the idea ;)
Buy her a new microwave.
That will please her and warm her up :D
John S.
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Any new developments with the pod? Its been quiet in this area lately.
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Ryan,
I have been on an interstate cnc installation and have only just returned. As it is the weekend, I will get back into things first thing Monday and let you know how the progression went last week while I was away.
Regards
Dave
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Dave, It's nice to see you back. It was a quiet week. Execept for Brett, he's always around to keep us company. ;D
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Thanks Ryan,
The week was anything but quiet for me on the JOB, but yes I can see it as quiet around here. Brett is always around to throw a smile or two our way, nice to be back.
Dave
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Thanks Guys,
I'm here a lot but still not as much as I would like. I'm hopeless. Does anyone have the number to Dr. Phil. ;D
Brett
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I use "ncPOD/F2014" and "Mach3VersionR2.00.040".
I want to operate it in "six axes".
Please show "an example" of Kon Figg military ration of "a port and a pin" in MACH3.
Do these work by "win2000"?
I knew that "Mach3VersionR2.00.041" was the latest.
I want to know whether "only my ncpod" does not work or whether even some people do not work.
I write it here so that tested present status becomes a part in knowledge of an author.
I pray so that "MACH3" and "NCPOD" develop into me, and it is loved by a lot of people.
In addition, support firm ware of USB is perfect early; expect it to become it.
When an author announces present status, I cannot be troubled.
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Hi had one for a year or so, had given up on it but with some answers found hear will give it a go again thanks
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About 1 month seems to be delayed,
I took the report that I revised for one part from him.
Some his plans seem to be late, but I endure still it and wait for completion.
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Hello, all which I am troubled with without working.
I found the "USB analysis" (SnoopyPro) next.
I examined "a USB driver" with this.
"The ncPUD driver" has three (Vid_16c0&Pid_056f) and cannot delete them.
The deletion of the "registry" (Vid_16c0&Pid_056f) of "Windows" is not admitted.
Did everybody try this? ???
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Dear sir :
I would like to buy NC Pod, but I am failure in download Nc pod manual in Mach website, also I can not access Nc pod website. Can anyone send the manual and quote for me. my email manager@xendoll.com
thanks
Jimmy
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Hello Jimmy,
I have tested and reported this to the guys working on the server :) They are good about fixing things and should have it all fixed in about 5-6 hours ;) (They are not into work at this time of the day ;) )
Thanks
Brian
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Hello,
I am having trouble with the NC Pod timing out in MACH3 and the
only way to get it going is to restart all of the software?
I have changed my USB ports settings and it still happens? :( ???
GWH
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Hi
I get an NC code used for drive of a thing of this movie and can try it?
"www.cncteknix.com/video/motiontest.mpg"
Is there a method to send off from method and MACH3 to write in at a direct SD card sequentially to operate ncPOD?
（The movement of MACH3 is felt so that CPU movement can afford by USB-ncPOD way）
In addition, is there the cord about the exercise of four axes?
（I hope for a method to write in at a direct SD card）
The direct note cord which I made becomes the error and does not work.
（Is there clear grammar somewhere?）
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Hi all,
is any body has answer to my problem there : http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,11533.new.html#new (http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,11533.new.html#new) ?
Freddy
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Can anyone give me mach pin details for ncpod?
I'm using DeskPod-NcPod-PlugIn-3.00
I need details of,
> Motor Outputs
> Input Signals
> Output Signals
thanks,
Hash
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Hi,
I have not my machine with me.
I could reply to you on 24th december, I could check on the PC which drive my machine.
Send me a message to make me remerber on the 24th that I have to give you this answer if you did'nt have it from another person.
Regards
Freddy
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Dear Freddy,
Hope now you have your machine.
I need mach3 pin details mapped according to ncpod pins.
Machine overview,
> 3-axis (engraving for 2.5D) step pin & dir pin required for Motor Outputs
> x-y-z Homing Pins & E-Stop for Input Signals
> Spindle O/P I use O/P B in ncpod
regards,
Hash
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Hello,
I just checked on the PC which drive my machine :
Ouput :
For X, Y, Z :
Step : 1 Dir port : 1
Input :
E stop : Port#1 Pin#2
As I don't put switch for end of stroke, I only specified a setup for e stop for input setup.
All parameters don't write in this answer is at 0 or enable status.
My spindle is a Kress without driving stuff from the card.
Freddy
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Dear freddy,
I use dc motor to drive my spindle. And i want to control (on/off) with job starting and ending so Is it possible to use output B of ncpod with TTL logic for my spindle drive circuitry?
I found by ncpodusermanual.pdf that I have to use mach pin 3 for output B of ncpod.
Also i found that all homing inputs "handled by ncpod" So my question is how can mach3 let know that any home switch actuate or not? although we are not configure any home input in ports and pins section.
Thanking you,
Hash
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Hello,
I don't know about the spindle.
For the home switch, I guess you must setup them on input as they are plug in with the nc pod.
Freddy
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Hello,
I try to control spindle by output B if i succeed i will let you know.
but for home inputs which mach pins i use for below,
X Home:Port#1 Pin#__?
Y Home:Port#1 Pin#__?
Z Home:Port#1 Pin#__?
Thanks,
Hash
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I sent an email to 2012/03/13.
However, there is not yet the answer.
Does OEMTech intend to work from now on?
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Dear sirs
OEMTech Original Engineering Machine Technology
Hello
Considerable time passed after it was begun, but did you come to be able
to show objective performance yet?
I was informed of postponement of the completion many times.
Firstly I bought a little product, but most fail in update of the firm
ware with a defective article.
I purchased a little product once again afterwards.
A defective article is mixed in this and it is few, but fails in update
of the firm ware.
There are around three kinds of methods when I watch placement of the
boards well, but does update of the firm ware fail by this?
Or is it the thing by the bug by エラッタ of MC9S12UF32PUE-1L47S?
If I imagine it, as for saying that update of the firm ware is possible,
there is a boot loader, and it updates new firm ware and can update it
if the key which firm ware is accompanied by and the key of the boot
loader are correct.
Or a lock is worn in boot loader, and it is thought that I may not renew it.
(I encode it to a boot loader part and am protected?)
In addition,
In a forum of the ART "input did not work of the probe". The movement of
G31 was unpredictable and was in danger. There is a description to say と.
Is this true?
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,8779.0.html
I lost my trust by this business very much.
In addition, I have suffered damage for about US $ 2,000.
(I have had the product which I cannot sell)
Do you release the official printing block of 6 axes?
And is it possible?
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,20372.0.html
I design the neighboring light isolators preventing an electromagnetic
wave obstacle and wait while expecting your completion.
Then thanking you in advance.
Yours sincerely,
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Hello
The software of MACH3 which we know assigns a function in "potr config" with reference to PIN of LPT,
When compare it; board ncPOD ,
When the way of thinking of the allotment of PIN of LPT is thin and makes motor axis connection an example,
The motor signals such as XYZABC do not support PIN.
A code word of XYZABC is just listed in a program description.
In input of 1-6 and output of 1-6 and HOME of XYZABC, PIN is fixed.
I do not have a lot on input and the output.
Yours sincerely,