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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: geoff3881 on January 09, 2007, 02:25:55 PM

Title: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: geoff3881 on January 09, 2007, 02:25:55 PM

I am just starting to set up an Emco Mill with Mach 3 software. New stepper motors and drivers are being fitted. I intent to drive the spindle motor with a Siemens Micromaster inverter which can be set for analogue input 0-10V giving control of frequency/speed. The inverter also has a control input for an on/off switch.
I would appreciate advice on how to interface the inverter with the Mach 3 software using the PWM feature to control the spindle speed.

Title: Re: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: Brian Barker on January 09, 2007, 06:58:49 PM

I have used the spindle speed board from Bob and I know cnc4pc has one...

Title: Re: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: derekbpcnc on January 10, 2007, 02:28:42 PM

Hi Geoff,

I also have a Siemens micromaster which is going to drive the  spindle motor on a Bridgeport.

So far I have Mach3 switching the motor on/off and I can see the PWM output on the breakout board.a
I intend to use a PWM to V converter module to IP the analogue in.
Module is a Siemens Siemens Sirrius Konverter 3RF2900-0EA18.

Shame the inverters cant be configured for PWM (or does anyone know different?).

Regards

Derek.

Title: Re: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: geoff3881 on January 12, 2007, 03:06:48 AM

Hi Derek,
Thanks for your comments. I contacted Siemens UK and asked the question. They have forwarded details of the Sirius solid state switching device. 3RF2900-OEA18
I am not clear how it would achieve what we want. It is described as follows :- "Analogue control signals are converted into a pulse width modulated digital signal. The strength of the analog input is converted into an ON and OFF swithching time within a fixed duration of 1 sec."
This appears the reverse of what we require. Am I missing something ?

Regards,

Geoff

Title: Re: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: HillBilly on January 12, 2007, 07:12:07 AM

This is the circuit located somewhere on the Mach site. It will convert the 0-5v PWM to 0-10v ( Nonisolated.). Some of the new drives will accept a PWM input, either 5 or 10v, based on parameter settings.

Darek

Title: Re: Mach 3 & Milling Spindle Control.
Post by: derekbpcnc on January 12, 2007, 01:19:49 PM

Quote from: geoff3881 on January 12, 2007, 03:06:48 AM

This appears the reverse of what we require. Am I missing something ?
Regards,
Geoff

Hi Geoff,

I had another look at  the data sheet and you are correct !
Thanks, you have saved me a few quid.
Siemens must have a similar module though, PWM -> V
The schematic of the converter posted below looks "simple enough"
I might have a go at that if no low cost ready built modules available.

Derek.