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General CNC Chat => Show"N"Tell ( What you have made with your CNC machine.) => Topic started by: marcel beaudry on January 04, 2007, 03:50:46 PM
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there are only two of them on photo they are hard to photograph the one shown is .625 on the side
Marcel
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if i have the permission i can put more photos of metal and wood ornamental turning.This ornametal turning has three .375 cubes on the same spindle with two rings
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You have my permission! LOL
Put the photos in the "Show "N" Tell" forum
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this one made in brass 1.250 square turned on allsides with rings on all branches with a smaller cube in the middle
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this one made in brass1.250 as hemisphere on the end of the branches are bigger than the hole in the first cube (.625hemisphere) hole in the first cube .500 smaller cube .375
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i have two more photos but can only post 4
Marcel
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Post them in the "Show "N" Tell" forum.
Looky were here! ;D
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Those are very cool!! Could you describe the process for one of them.
BTW. you can post up to 4 photos per 'post' , not total.. ;)
Chad
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Marcel:
OK, OK, Now your rubbing it in.. Those just arent possible... :-)
Art
(I am truly amazed, your a real craftsman...)
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Hello Art
Here are some of the tools used to create those cube , sometimes i wonder if i should be showing the tools instead of the cubes. all the tools are .250 square
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Chad on what cube do you want a description
Marcel
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Here is one, it is a persimmon cube .875 square it as a spheroid a cube and a cube with points in the middle.On the following image you see a similar cube made in boxwood on its base and one that was cut to show all of its elements
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For another chalenge this one is made in blackwood the lenght is 2.125 the spheres are .625 in diameter it contains a cube and a cube with spikes in the middle that is connected to the other sphere all made in one piece .
Marcel
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Very cool. Thats what confises most people, they cant understand how you do it, cuz they cant picture the tool.. :)
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Hello Art
sometimes it is more difficult to make the tools than the cube . when you want to make a cube you have to think of only one step at the time, not the whole cube, just a step and what tool it's need.
Marcel
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Hey Marcel,
How much time do you have in the last picture you posted, tooling and all. It looks like you are a very patient man.
Nice work,
Brett
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WOW! Truely Amazing!!!
John (bloy)
P.S. Do you sell these? I would love to....to.... to just have and to hold! :)
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Hello Brett
to make the tool took me 2 hours the first time i made it of hss when i tried it on turning blackwood it only lasted to cut 3 faces before it became blunt i had to replace it with a carbide one wich took me another 3 hours the tool is only .050 wide and .500 long all tools are hand ground with diamond grinding wheels . And that is only one tool , the other on made in carbide is more complicated being l shaped the tip of the tool is only .079 wide while the body is .040 . Hope this helps. to turn a face takes about 59 seconds with mach 3 so total machining time 12 minutes and still that does not account for all the special jigs needed to hold and mark the positions of the faces.
Marcel
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Yes they are for sale i have some i brass and some in aluminium that are made for key chain.and the others in wood.
Marcel
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Yeap, I was right, you are a very patient man. These are amazing Marcel. I don't think anyone would mind if you put a post in the Bargain Basement section with some of these for sale.
Brett
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Chaoticone you have a personnal message
Marcel
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Fantastic work Marcel,
Yes the tools are just as interesting, and show us your work is legitimate.
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Thanks yenned
a couple of the brass cube are real hard to do, you have to hold with jigs and every step has it's own jig and you c'ant have parts moving around while you are machining another part .if you want to see a person do this kind of work google (robert bosco) a master of ornametal turning ,and should be a site visited by all who a facinated by complex turning he shows how it is done.if you want to ask Brian Barker and Art i sent them a small sample for the help they gave me in programming .
Marcel
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Yup and it is here on my desk :) Art has his over his desk on a shelf...
Great looking work!
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Marcel,
Bosco's website is amazing! And I see you are on his links!
http://perso.orange.fr/robert.bosco/modeleen.htm
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Yes Robert Bosco's site is very informative it shows how to do most of is turnings step by step . the turnings he does are 80mm in size , mine are miniature .875 in diameter or square or smaller. some of the walls of my turning are less than .062 thick the attrition rate is quite high.because of the grain invisible check in the wood small knots .How do you hold them, what pressure to put on them so they wont turn in the chuck or to much and they break , on two sides the grain is real strong on the other 4 sides the grain is weak so you have to be careful and plan your work ahead . And the tools well that is another thing they have to be super sharp or the wood burns , then there is the wood some woods contain silica and is hard on tools other are too soft and bend too much and have a lot of other problems you can't see your tool half the time when there inside the cut . It's real pure fun when the part is in your hand and you see all the parts moving with a nice finish.
Marcel Beaudry
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Thanks Marcel,
You just answered many of the questions I was entertaining! I've made miniature furniture ( scale replicas from measurements) and I can attest to the problems you speak of. Going small presents a whole sea of thought when planning the piece.
Great work you do! And thanks for the link to something extra ordinary!
John (bloy)
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If you have questions i will be happy to reply if i don't know the answer some one on the forum could have the answer
Marcel
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Ho i forgot when you tighten your jigs a sharp craking sound is not something you want to hear LOL ;D
Marcel
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Guys, let me tell you, these pieces are amazing. I got to see one today. They are so petite. I was almost scared to touch it. I could talk about this for days. It would allways be the same question. How? How? How?
Amazed,
Brett
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They ARE amazing arent they.
Marcel, I recieved the new one you sent me a few days ago, sorry for the delay in responding.... Its excellent. and incredibly more amazing than the last. It will always sit on my "shelf of pride" , thanks so much,
I stare at those things as I ruminate on various code, they are a joy to see and an inspiration, I do so love the work of a craftsman.. (My friends are always amazed at them great conversation pieces..:) )
Art
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Good Lord man.....These are beyond amazing.
This topic was before my time with ArtSoft.
Just in case I'm not the only one who hadn't seen this, I'm posting to bring it back up front.
Just looking at these things almost gives me a headache.
Thanks Marcel,
RC
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Hello all, I just had to bump this thread. Go to the first post in this topic for a couple of the amazing turnings. I'm sure that will encourage you to view the rest of the topic. Over 1 1/2 years ago I got one of these and I'm still amazed by it. Super impressive!!!!
Brett
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Brett:
Good idea. :)
I just dusted my two last week , they reside in my living room on a shelf. ( Those with wives know how rarely they
will allow hobby knicknacks in the living room.. :) ), but these are true works of art. ( Well, not of THIS art, but you get
the drift ).
For such a short Gcode program their amazing, but the handling of the work, and the design is the true craftsmanship.
Art
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Hello Art
the g code is short because the tool cuts from 3 sides at the same time.
Marcel
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Hi Marcel,
Such amazing workmanship - my complements.
Tweakie.
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Tweakie, you would have to have one in your hand to truley appreciate it for what it is. Amazing!!!!
Brett
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Something I came across the other day - A machine, costing more than everything I own, making a Turners cube. If you haven't already seen this video then it is well worth the look.
http://www.cnccookbook.com/index.htm
Regards, Tweakie.
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Now that's neat! Thanks Tweak.
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hello Tweak
A turner`s cube used to be a test for apprentist machinist and every cube must not be attached in any way to other cubes . the cube shown in the video is a simple boring exercise . in my cubes i machined a spike in every face of the smaller cube to make it more difficult to machine and use a smaller tool to machine them. Making them more difficult to machine . Like i said no cube must be attached to another one.Look at the first picture of this post you will see that each cube is separated from the other.
Ask Chaoticone he as one.
Marcel Beaudry
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Watching that machine run is as amazing as the cubes.
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That is a great video Tweakie. Not to discredit any of it but Marcel's are way more complicated then that one IMO. I just can't explain them. No way for me to put it in words. It boggles my mind every time I look at it. If I get up the nerve (I would truly get sick if something happened to it. One of my most prized possesions and anyone who sees it will know why.) I'll take mine to Cabin fever in Jan. to see if anyone there can put it in words for me. Unreal ....................... I think earlier in this thread Marcel post a link to a site. The guy was making similar to Marcel's but much bigger. Defiantly worth studying.
Brett
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Marcel,
I'm bumping this thread again. Everone should be going thru all of this post.
You are an ARTIST, or should I say a Magician. I've been in the trade for many years and have never seen anyone make anything that could match yours.
Thanks for all the pics and info. I'm going to climb back in my hole. :D
Ed
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That is why i said i was crazy, do not know when to stop . Never think it is impossible . Think outside the box, do not even think of a box >:D >:D >:D
marcel
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Something I came across the other day - A machine, costing more than everything I own, making a Turners cube. If you haven't already seen this video then it is well worth the look.
http://www.cnccookbook.com/index.htm
Regards, Tweakie.
I don't see the video at that link.
Vince
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Vince,
I had a job finding it too.
Chack the link below.
http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCBlogNov2008.htm
Ed
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Marcel,
I wouldn't say your crazy. It's more like Creative. And I too, always like a challenge.
Anyone can do the simple stuff.
Ed
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Well done Ed.
CNC Cookbook changes it's pages regularly and it's links change. I had been unable to find the cube making link as well.
Tweakie.
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I don't see the video at that link.
Your not missing much, Vince, cube-wise. The machine working was the amazing part, not the cubes themselves. As Brett stated, Marcel's are light years ahead.
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wow!
really great work... i have to try that now. i have a watchmakers lathe out back and all i ever use it for is surfacing wax tubes....
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Hi All,
This thread is certainly interesting and echo that what Marcel is doing is great.
I thought all of you guys had a robot in the shop. ;)
Enjoyed, Thanks Marcel for the post.
RICH
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Hi everybody,
I am the proud new owner of one of these spectacular creations of Marcel B.
The pics in this thread are amazing, but as Brett and others have said, to see one in person is an enlightening event.
Bumping this post up might give newer members that might not have seen it an opportunity to see what craftsmanship and attention to detail really is.
I showed it to my wife, she said " WOW ! that's amazing ... would make neat earrings, make me a couple."
I chuckled and said "If I had to make them, no one could afford them." (I couldn't afford the material I would scrap, lol)
This piece has a very special place in my collection of keepsakes.
Thank you very much Marcel,
Russ
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You are very fortunate Russ. The work of Marcel is indeed truly wonderful.
Tweakie.
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Thank you
Marcel
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After 9 years time to bump it up
Cheers Marcel Beaudry
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Hi Marcel,
Good to hear from you again, has it really been 9 years ?
I always admire your excellent works of art and or course your skillful tool grinding to achieve those results.
Best regards,
Tweakie.
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Thanks Tweakie
yes it's been a long time
Marcel
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Hi Marcel,
I don’t have your skills with a lathe so I cheat a bit and use a mini mill. Here is a very basic cube in the making. Still a way to go but it has to be finished in time for a Christmas gift.
Tweakie.
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The engraving has now been done (family names etc.) it just needs the final polishing and it is complete.
Tweakie.
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This is a real nice present Tweakie
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Here's some I made, all out of Aluminum. Sizes from 2" - 6" Was going to post months ago, but couldn't find the pics.
YES, I'm still alive.
Ed V.
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WOW these are good looking
Nice work