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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: jasminder on September 07, 2011, 02:46:56 PM
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hello friends, (again)
the problem started yesterday when my PC restarted automatically and the same is happening randomly. I guess it is a thermal trip.
okay i know what to do. I opened up the heat sink, and there wasn't any thermal paste. I cleaned the things then put the heat sink back on the processor.
Now it ran for around 2 hours then again a thermal trip and restart. i touched the heatsink and it was warm. (i guess that processor was too hot that time because the outer fins were warm and i am sure it was more hot on its center.
my question is "how much ram does mach3 turn can eat and how can i get rid of this thermal trip" It has a P4 2.5ghz processor and 512 mb ram.
thanks in advance,
jasminder singh
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I'd load up one of the temperature monitoring apps and verify that the CPU overheating is actually the issue.
Heat sinks will get hot even in normal operation.
Did you put thermal paste on before remounting the heat sink?
The reset could be any number of things.
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I think a lot of mach runs in the video chip, there is a log file somwhere for windows "event viewer" I think
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I'd load up one of the temperature monitoring apps and verify that the CPU overheating is actually the issue.
Heat sinks will get hot even in normal operation.
Did you put thermal paste on before remounting the heat sink?
The reset could be any number of things.
no i didn't had any thermal paste so i just cleaned it and mounted again. The processor was not sitting with the heat sink properly so used some sand paper to make both of them flat and wow it ran successfully for 2 hours.
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I think a lot of mach runs in the video chip, there is a log file somwhere for windows "event viewer" I think
hmm i will check it. But does the windows event viewer shows information about thermal trips also?
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It was my understanding that the processor thermal trip "shut down" the PC rather than triggered a "restart". ???
Tweakie.
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It was my understanding that the processor thermal trip "shut down" the PC rather than triggered a "restart". ???
Tweakie.
but my pc restarts (i guess this is what actually happens when a thermal trip occurs)
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Do you have evidence that it is a processor thermal trip that is causing the problem or could it possibly be something else ??
Just curious about this.
Also check your BIOS settings for over-temp sensing and actions to be taken.
Tweakie.
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It was my understanding that the processor thermal trip "shut down" the PC rather than triggered a "restart". ???
Tweakie.
my understanding also
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If it's the CPU overheating it will most likely restart.
What will usually happen is windows will blue screen with some random error and the default behavior is to immediately reboot.
If you believe it's the CPU overheating, I'd put thermal paste between the CPU and the HeatSink.
But I'm suspicious that it's taking 2 hours to shutdown, usually thermal problems are pretty immediate when under any significant CPU load.
As I said above I would verify what the issue is.
There are a whole host of other things that could cause a reboot, from PSU problems to RAM and bad components on the MB.
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If it's the CPU overheating it will most likely restart.
What will usually happen is windows will blue screen with some random error and the default behavior is to immediately reboot.
If you believe it's the CPU overheating, I'd put thermal paste between the CPU and the HeatSink.
But I'm suspicious that it's taking 2 hours to shutdown, usually thermal problems are pretty immediate when under any significant CPU load.
As I said above I would verify what the issue is.
There are a whole host of other things that could cause a reboot, from PSU problems to RAM and bad components on the MB.
i have checked the processor heat sink that becomes very warm during running. is it normal?
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Yeah modern processors will get so hot touching the heat sink will burn you.
under no load the processor is pushing ~50 degrees C and they won't shut down until they are over 80 degrees C
That's why I said load up a temperature monitor and check what the actual temperature is.
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Yeah modern processors will get so hot touching the heat sink will burn you.
under no load the processor is pushing ~50 degrees C and they won't shut down until they are over 80 degrees C
That's why I said load up a temperature monitor and check what the actual temperature is.
i tried installing 2 temperature monitor but none of them got installed. Today i noticed that when i open task manager and move the window of the task manager with my cursor rapidly, the cpu usage of Pc goes to 85% then after 2 seconds returns back to 0 (when i stop moving the cursor and window). wtf is wrong with my pc?
should i try a system reinstall?
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ok something got really bad today.
i decided to reinstall windows xp. put the cd into the cd rom (had to buy a new coz my pc wasn't having) then did a format to c drive. But now i am failed to install windows to my PC. It shows a blue screen with some 0x0000 and 000 something codes and physical memory dump creation done.
i tried reinstalling it from 2 cds many times but no luck ( do i need a new PC????)
please help guys, i am not in mood of spending more $$$.
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Could be many things, bad RAM, Bad capacitors on mobo, bad power supply, bad HDD etc etc.
Have a look at the capacitors on the mobo and see if they are bulging or leaking, if not then really the only option is to swap out components one at a time with known good ones.
Hood
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I've had processors go bad and bad power supplies give that particular error as well.
As Hood mentions, it's now a matter of swapping components to find the bad one.
Dave
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i am looking for a new "used pc for the lathe"
no luck with the error. Rather than replacing the ram and hd, it is better to have another cpu ( one spare may help sometimes)
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JAs I think you need to find a good computer that works Then LEAVE IT ALONE.
Just a thought, (;-) TP
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Or build your own, its the way I like.
Hood
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Or build your own, its the way I like.
Hood
i like that way too. but the route is expensive (almost double)
i bought this cpu 2 years ago for 80$ when i begun my project. wasn't a bad deal for that amount. (after all it went through several sparks and the on board parallel port is also fried)
wish me luck for a good deal again. (why scotch is so much popular btw? I guess you can tell about it easily as you tell about mach)
jasminder singh
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Scotch is probably more popular in India and China than in Scotland nowadays ;D
Hood
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Scotch is probably more popular in India and China than in Scotland nowadays ;D
Hood
it is just some local made whisky mixed with some "dizzy dizzy capsules" lol. no one gets pure things in india. Pure milk, milk products, wine, even pure people are hardly seen these days here. I will try some johnywalker sometime and then ask more about it ( if i still doesnt get the answer lol..)
jasminder
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Scotch is probably more popular in India and China than in Scotland nowadays ;D
Hood
one more thing that came to mind is (if it is possibe to do) that "can artsoft develop an operating system of its own?
I have experienced some unspeicified error and "atrcode error trigger and recovery like messages that bugged me a lot even when my computer was workig good.
I wish if art could make something that never gives any errors or crashes. Something can be made that starts just after a pc boots, that should be more stable, trustable and error free.