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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: Tef9 on March 21, 2011, 06:47:33 AM

Title: Probing
Post by: Tef9 on March 21, 2011, 06:47:33 AM
After two years of modding my mill I finally have a working CNC machine (Big thanks to all here who helped me over that time)

I have a touch probe that works perfectly - however I would like to use it for edge finding.  I used to have a screen for that but now I cant seem to find it.  Does any one else have a way to edge find & center find a circle/round stock?

Many Thanks,

Andy
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on March 21, 2011, 07:35:18 AM
Andy,

Don't know if this is what you are think of but there is a probing routine which can be enable as a plugin. You need to restart Mach after it has been enabled.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: Tef9 on March 21, 2011, 08:46:56 AM
Thanks Tweakie, 

Will this let me edge find as well as digitaly probe?

Cheers.

Andy
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on March 21, 2011, 09:13:31 AM
Andy,

No idea, I have never used it.

Just noticed that the MachStdMill has good probing routines - may be worth a visit.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: ger21 on March 21, 2011, 06:16:28 PM
How about this?
http://www.razordance.co.uk/probe25D.htm
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DaveCVI on March 23, 2011, 12:28:11 AM
Feel free to take a look at MachStdMill at www.CalypsoVentures.com
It has the operations you asked about and a lot more.
For the full set of probing operations currently supported, see the Beta downloads (The user manual is avail separately if you like to read before trying).

I expect the beta to become release 1.1 not too long from now.

Disclosure: I am the author of the package so I could be accused of being biased, but I don't know of any other mach package that has the extensive probing support that MSM offers.

Dave

After two years of modding my mill I finally have a working CNC machine (Big thanks to all here who helped me over that time)

I have a touch probe that works perfectly - however I would like to use it for edge finding.  I used to have a screen for that but now I cant seem to find it.  Does any one else have a way to edge find & center find a circle/round stock?

Many Thanks,

Andy
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DennisF on March 23, 2011, 01:08:47 PM
Hi Dave
Just reading through the post and came across the above is your program only a probe program or a full functioning mill package?

Thanks
Dennis 
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DaveCVI on March 23, 2011, 01:41:18 PM
It's a full function Mill package: All the stock mach features Plus additional enhanced functionality. Probing is just one set of feature sets MSM adds to Mach. 

Dave

Hi Dave
Just reading through the post and came across the above is your program only a probe program or a full functioning mill package?

Thanks
Dennis 
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DennisF on March 23, 2011, 05:07:59 PM
Dave
Thanks i will take a look at the trial offer i see that you are in the SF bay area as I am were about are you located ?

Dennis
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DaveCVI on March 23, 2011, 05:26:24 PM
Dennis,
Located on the peninsula, between the Dumbarton and San Mateo bridges.
Dave


Dave
Thanks i will take a look at the trial offer i see that you are in the SF bay area as I am were about are you located ?

Dennis
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: jonny quest on March 24, 2011, 10:12:29 PM
With that machstdmill do you offer a 5 axis screen?
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DaveCVI on March 24, 2011, 10:37:42 PM
Hi,
Sorry, but the answer is 99% "no".
MachStdMill is a 4 axis layout. The 4 are x,y,x,a - the only place there is any implicit knowledge of B is for the B axis alignment probing support. I hesitated to do that since there were no B DRO displays in the set. I think the users that have B rotary axes are using them configured as A, but aligned along Y.  My impression is they use A XOR B, but not both - that keeps things to 4 axes, even though the "A" designation may then be non-conventional.

Dave

With that machstdmill do you offer a 5 axis screen?
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: jonny quest on March 24, 2011, 10:58:45 PM
Maybe this will still work. A or B is just a designation, right?

It will be a trunnion table, I guess call that "A" that the "B" rotary will sit on.

I want to probe a shaft to make "A" rotate to vertical. Even though the shaft  is fixtured to"B", "B" is just sitting there.

So let's say everytime I want to do this procedure, I can just load up your screenset? For my 5 axis use (no probing just cutting) I would load that screenset?

I don't have my machine running yet, but very close... I'm not familiar with changing screens and how does it affect the settings... i.e. ball screw pitch, acceleration settings, preferences. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Probing
Post by: DaveCVI on March 25, 2011, 02:58:33 AM
Hi,
Mach stores machine configuration information in a "profile". Changing the screen set which is running doesn't normally change the physical machine configuration (pitch, acceleration etc) settings.

My suggestion would be to first get your machine running, then spend some time using Mach so you'll have a firmer understanding of how profiles relate to screen sets etc. When you're comfortable with the "stock operation" of Mach, try several different screen sets to see how well they fit your particular goals.  Since 5 axis work is not a topic I'm real familiar with, I won't offer an opinion as to how much use MSM may or may not be for your particular needs.

Dave