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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: noslenwerdna on November 25, 2010, 11:16:20 PM
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I have been using mach 3 for years without any problems. Then out of the blue I got a blue screen of death...
At this point I've tried everything, I reinstalled Mach, I reinstalled windows, I tried a different computer...
all seem to work for short time then I get the blue screen of death...
Any ideas would be appreciated please help.
Thank you,
Andrew
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What is the kernel frequency you have set? What is the frequency and Time in Int on the Diagnostics page?
Hood
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Sadly, I can't get that far anymore. I tried to start over...
I re-installed XP
I installed Mach III (the only thing on the computer)
I tried to run the driver test and it got half way through and rebooted my computer. After the reboot, I tried to run it again and it got half way into it and rebooted my computer again. At least I haven't gotten the blue screen of death yet, but in all fairness I haven't tried to run Mach yet and that's when I've been getting the BSoD.
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Look on the downloads page and try the optimisation steps that are detailed in a file there.
Hood
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Sorry I guess I should've mentioned that was the first thing that I tried.
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So, I can't get through the driver test program. When I run it, it reboots my computer. If I try the special driver, then the driver test program does nothing at all. At this point I will probably try reinstalling XP again, but this time install a very old version of Mach because, like I said, it used to work.
Has anybody else had these problems? Did Mach just stop working for anybody else?
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First check your ram.Use a memtest or swap out
the ram chip/s with a known good one.If you assembled your own
computer for this machine did you remember to put some
thermal paste on the cpu chip.
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Keithmech beat me to it but I'll second his comments.
Check a few items like how clean the inside of the computer is, check the CPU heat sink, RAM, power supply, graphics card or chip.
All of these can cause the problems your having and are more likely than the programs as you were already running the computer without problems.
Steve
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The PC I use had been sitting for a few years before I set it up, and it was doing the exact same things as yours.
Problem was bad RAM.
BSOD is just about always caused be PC hardware issues.
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Thanks guys, I will further investigate my hardware. I did not build this machine or there'd be no need to check for common mistakes... I'm only half kidding, I'm good but hey, we all make mistakes. This was a "discount" machine from eBay, but it did work well for years. I don't mind buying another machine if this one is the problem but what's got me going is why did it do the same thing on another machine? Of course, that was another old machine but for its time it was top of the line.
I will pull the thing apart and find the problem and post it. Once again, thanks to all.
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As promised here's my update...
It seems to be a video adapter problem and I cannot change the resources used by my video card. I guess that explains what happened, Windows re-assigned my video resources and whammo. I do have a work around, I disabled video hardware acceleration and am now up and running again.
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Nevermind my last post I'm still crashing but I will keep trying
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Not so good, hopefully you will get there in the end :(
Is this an onboard video card?
Hood
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Did you establish that the RAM isn't the issue? I know it was mentioned earlier but did you check it?
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I have a program that tests hardware but I'm not real sure that it's all that good. So, I have ordered new ram and am now waiting to give it a try. I will let you know when it gets here and I've installed it.
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How far into running you're computer do you get before the Blue Screen happens?
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Used to use Memtest a few years back, not sure even if its still available but might be worth a google.
Hood
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So... it's not the memory. The memory has passed all tests and I swapped it out when the new memory arrived... Still, I have the problem.
To answer the question as to when do I get the Blue Screen of Death... It might happen immediately or in two hours, or maybe five minutes... it seems random.
An update on the second computer that I tried using... After Mach caused the BSoD, that computer is completely dead. Paperweight dead. Doorstop dead. Dead.
I have put Mach on a third computer, an old, slow, eMachine, it should have a crank on the side, but it did pass the driver test program... No BSoD on it yet, but like I said, the first computer worked for years before there was ever a problem and I'd still like to get it working again.
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Does it need Mach open to crash or does it just crash even if Mach is not running?
Have you looked at the capacitors on the mobo, sometimes they start going bad and you can often see them leaking or bulging at the top.
Hood
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The times I was stating were from the start of running Mach. The computer won't crash until Mach is run. I haven't noticed any bulging caps but will take a closer look...
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It could have to do with you're plugins in mach, Try removing all but the one you need to run mach then run it and see if it still happens. If it doesn't then put each plugin back into the plugin folder until you find the offending one.
It might not be the issue but I have had some computers crash mach due to a plugin soaking up to much CPU time, never BSoD but it's worth a try.
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Dang! I found two bad capacitors on the motherboard... I am going to replace them and let you know.
If that does turn out to be the problem I will be shocked due to the computer only crashing under Mach.
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It could just be Mach is puting extra load on the computer compared to other programmes you are running, heres hoping you have found the problem.
Hood