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Title: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: tbyrd0918 on September 03, 2010, 03:44:07 PM
Dave,
  I'm having a problem with my feedrate not acting right.  I was using beta_5 and all was good.  I changed to beta_9 and Mach 3.043.019 and my Feedrate within the Gcode doesn't always work properly.  F3 runs 9ipm, F20 runs 20ipm,  F3 at 30% runs about 3ipm, F20 about 6ipm.  I looked to see what settings have been changed but can't find any. 1 out of 10 or 15 times F3 does run 3ipm and oddly F20 runs 60ipm!  Something strange is going on.  MDI seems to always be accurate.  any suggestions?
T. Byrd
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: DaveCVI on September 03, 2010, 10:50:59 PM
Hum,
I don't have an idea off the top of my head - I'll think about it a bit.
Feed rates are processed by Mach and so nothing immediately comes to mind that would impact this in MSM.

I'll ask Brian if anything else was changed in 3.43.19 that might be impacting this.

Dave
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: Calum on September 04, 2010, 12:38:32 AM
This might be related to the issue I reported about wrong feed rates with SS.  Brina thinks it has someting to do with the infor Mach gets back from SS.

Calum
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: ger21 on September 04, 2010, 06:39:08 AM
To add to the previous post, I believe that Brian said the actual feedrates are correct, they're just displayed wrong. Test with a stopwatch and see if that's the case.
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: Brian Barker on September 04, 2010, 08:55:03 AM
Yes Please test with a stop watch.. If you do a 8" move at 4 "/min it should take 2 min to make the move.. If that works out I think it is only the display. Please test this and I would also like to know if you are using a SS or the P Port.

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: tbyrd0918 on September 04, 2010, 09:13:08 PM
I am in fact using Smooth Stepper and the displayed rates are correct.

T. Byrd
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 04, 2010, 09:13:59 PM
I have just updated to Mach3 ver19, and MSM Beta 9.  I had been unig 16 and Beta 5.  My feed rates are now running about 3 times the requested rate.  F20=F58  F19=F55.  The indicated rate is definatley correct IE it is actually running at the high rate.  I am using SS.  There was not a problem with the previous version.
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 04, 2010, 09:37:34 PM
After reading the above post I went and tested different feed rates.  F5=F14.7 indicated.  F10=F29.4 indicated and F20=58.7 indicated.  I tried rebooting and the results are the same.  Using SS.  This problem did not occur with ver16 of Mach and Beta 5 of MSM.
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: tbyrd0918 on September 06, 2010, 08:09:11 AM
Iraqan,
Sounds like the exact same thing that I'm getting.  Maybe someone can figure it out.  I hate to go back a version!
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: DaveCVI on September 06, 2010, 10:25:35 AM
Iragan,
Are you using a PP or a SS?

Dave
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: Brian Barker on September 06, 2010, 12:25:33 PM
What version of the SS plugin are you running?

Thanks
Brian
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 06, 2010, 10:05:20 PM
I will check tonight when I get home.  I am in Mongolia so my days are your nights.
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: loderunner on September 07, 2010, 04:11:51 AM
I too have been running all the BETA releases of the new MSM and have echoed all of the issues experienced which have all been fixed in subsequent fixes with thanks.

The latest BETA 9 release makes all my feed rates go haywire when previous versions where stable, i set it at 2500mm / per minute but it seems to disregard the feed rate and run at whatever it wants to the point i need to downgrade to the previous release.

I am not running any smooth steppers, just a plain vanilla install of the MSM packages.

Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 07, 2010, 05:53:06 AM
I am running Beta2 Ver 0.015.  Thanks
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: Brian Barker on September 07, 2010, 06:22:37 AM
Hmm... Okay please send me both of your XMLs and we will see what we can do. I need to head out and work on the road today but I will be back at it tomorrow to see if we can get this feedrate problem sorted out.

loderunner, Could you please tell me what frequency you are running at (on the diagnostics page for the 1024.set and on the P Port page of the MSM set) Then I would like to know what you are set for under config ports and pins

THanks
Brian
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: loderunner on September 07, 2010, 07:13:11 AM
Brian,

Running 35251 Frequency on both the MSM and 1024.set as well as the config screen. (I sent you my XML along with the screen dumps of the info you requested)


Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 08, 2010, 10:39:57 PM
I am attaching the MachStdMill xml file I am using.
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: DaveCVI on September 10, 2010, 09:14:05 PM
I am told that the feed rate issues are repaired in mach 3.43.22
see http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15471.msg107016.html#msg107016 (http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15471.msg107016.html#msg107016)

Dave
Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: loderunner on September 11, 2010, 05:41:16 AM
It works !!!

Thanks for the fast fix on this bug Brian.



Title: Re: Feedrate with SS and MSM problem
Post by: lragan on September 11, 2010, 07:26:46 AM
Fixed my problem as well.   Thanks