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General CNC Chat => Show"N"Tell ( What you have made with your CNC machine.) => Topic started by: Ya-Nvr-No on June 20, 2010, 11:17:20 PM
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Been learning to use Mach3 and my Router with some Logos I recreated. Now I am hooked on finding spalding maple, wavy patterns & curly burl. Every wood pile I pass I stop and ask if I can look for unique grain and knots. Meeting some real characters. I'm sure that's what they say about me too. ;D
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They looks beautiful!
Thanks for showing.
Daniel
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Excellent work - looks like you are an expert and being modest about the learning. ;D
Tweakie.
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Nice work, and I believe the name is called "Spalted Maple" ;)
Thanks for sharing-
Dave
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Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!
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real nice :)
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Thanks guys!!
Dave, I'd noticed my error after I posted, but no way to modify a post in this forum.
Working with wild cherry this week. Smells great.
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Love Cherry wood when it's cut! I also love mahagony but it kills my lungs >:( Mask is mandatory on that stuff-
Keep up the nice work-
Dave
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Still having fun, Love the Wild cherry Indian motorcycle sign, dam thing is heavy too, beautiful grain & color.
I don't think people understand how long it takes to create these things.
A .045" cutters take a lot of light passes to get to finial depth without breaking. Damn China ruined it for the artist/craftsman's trade. ;D
Cutting vinyl is so much more profitable!!!
But these will last a lifetime, or they just might make for a warm winter night if need be.
Good thing I give these things away. The beer always tastes better when someone says thanks.
Have a Happy and Safe 4th of July weekend.
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Very well done!
Dave
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My 4th of July project, Still wet with Boiled Linseed oil. Too bad the walnut split during the process of cutting.
Thought I'd try to come up with a presentation piece. So it's still a work in process.
Wasn't sure how the flag would look draped over the star, But for the most part it has possibilities.
4 Tools over 30 hours of cutting. Think I can cut the time down by 1/2 but not the tools used.
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You probably know this already, but you can use a PEG solution to keep it from cracking / splitting.
Of course you would need to plan ahead.
I have a fair amount of walnut and don't let folks pick and choose. They just leave with a lousy foot of wood and i am stuck stacking
the 1000 board feet or they want the curly gun stock blanks for nothing....been there, done that, no more.....nothing personal my friend
but i know where your coming from.
Nice work...post more
BTW, you can ge the curly maple feathers effect by wrapping / laying waxed dental floss and igniting it on the wood. Poor mans way to turn that maple into a muzzle loader stock which is deceptive relative to the wood used.
RICH
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Thanks for the information, never heard of PEG.
I'm new to the wood working trade, spent my life in the metal removing profession. Smelling stinky coolant and oily rags. Last 20 Programming machining & turning centers with robot gantry loaders. Now I do contract work and controls engineering. Working on 9 new rocker arms for racing engines at the present. So the weekends and evenings are filled with cutting wood and learning to create 3d signage artwork. I'd love to get good at this. I can drink beer at this job. Want to learn to make Jewelry also. Nice to have skillful hobbies isn't it?
No one touches my wood pile. been collecting it for 20+ years. Recently I found a nice Amish saw mill owner that keeps some nice pieces off to the side for me. Now there's a real character. Boy does he collect crap. I'll have to get some photos of this guys shop. He's got shafts running thru walls with pulleys and belts running over doorways. An old Pratt & Whitney vertical mill with a B&S motor. Hand operated 20+ton overhead I beam steel crane.
Let me get this straight you lie waxed dental floss (not used I hope) and light it with a match and as it burns it creates a burl/feathery like pattern? I assume this is after you have sanded the stock and are ready for finishing? Got to try that one. Cool! That way I can layout the pattern where I feel it will best be seen.
Thanks again
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Only new floss. :) I wish i had some pictures to show you but all those guys have gone to muzzle loader heaven........
It's really tuff to find that piece of curly maple which would run right to the end of the barrell. When finished you would see light and dark areas from the wood grain and in absense of the grain the floss trick was neat...need to experiment to get the right affect, been years since i did that on a set of dualing pistols.
They have a PEG ( it's different than the engine collant stuff ) and you let the wood sock in the stuff so it won't crack when drying.
Haven't used it in years ( i think Constantines out of New York sold it ( they have been out of buisness for a long time ) )
All this useless info stored in the cloud above my head....all it takes is the right posting for it to be remembered.
No i don't do wood working, concrete , roofs or siding anymore ....... just a comment before you even ask ???
RICH
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PEG: "polyethylene glycol":
"This medication is used to treat occasional constipation. It works by holding water in the stool to soften the stool and increases the number of bowel movements. It is known as an osmotic-type laxative."
That's Not my problem as of yet RICH, :o
That looks like it is used for everything, sold by the local flimflam man I'd expect ;D No wonder it made it to automobile use!!!
Pentacryl looks promising but kind of expensive
http://www.preservation-solutions.com
LDD: light colored "Liquid Dishwater Detergent" looks the cheapest and easiest to try. (6:1 ratio)
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I'd just done a store front 2' x 12' Vinyl Banner for him, so I thought I'd see what it looked like in raised arc effect. hope he likes it.
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Excellent work,
I do like that raised arc effect - how do you do that ?
Tweakie.
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Thanks, thought I'd show you a screen capture. Easier to visualize.
Sure wish we lived closer I'd love to have your laser to highlight the outlines and burn in my logo for added effect.
So I guess it's just another project to put on the list of things to build.
Still trying to get my large gantry done. Damn people want me to work. :D
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Learned a new free program called Sculptris version1.02 to make a 3d Panther head
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Awesome. Really nice work.
Tweakie.
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Learned a new free program called Sculptris version1.02 to make a 3d Panther head
That program is great, isn't it? I get started with it and the time FLIES!!
I really need to get some time and actually cut something from it, lol!
Nice work as always-
Dave
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Couple of new ones. fish sign on Pine and kayak on white Oak
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Didn't take the youngest long to figure out what to put in the cutouts I made for the kayak.
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Brilliant. :D
Tweakie.
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The Paying sample, that got me a commitment for create a large sign for the front of the commercial building. That one will be made out of HDF Signfoam3 18lb 20" x 30" x 4"
Seem I am getting quite busy as of lately, I might have created a market here. ;D ... Lots of Christmas orders starting too.
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Here is a one using Osage Orange, Nice hard, tight grained wood. Holds a pretty good edge and very pretty without staining.
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The finished UDF 18lb Signfoam3 painted 23" tall by 30" wide 4" thick
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The Wrap for the totem pole is 60" x 13" x 6" Longest and thickest one I've done, HDF and painted
He wanted the metal pole that held the totem up covered.
I filled between with "Great Stuff" foam, protecting it with 24" wide waxed paper, so the foam would not stick to the HDF inside curve. Then wrapped it with straps till it expanded, conformed to the shape and cured, then removed it and machined the outside to suit. Photo shows the rough cut.
Using latex caulking to hold the wrap in place & to seal it. Again holding it with straps till cured. Fun project ;D Even got to do some hand painting for effect.
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And a new wooden wall hanger made out of wild cherry.
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Real cool this sign.
May I ask what is HD foam and why use this material.
Jeff
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Thanks
It's easy and fast to cut, can be repaired easily by cutting out the area and gluing (gorilla glue) in the new piece then re-machine. Relatively light and very durable, nothing soaks into it, you can paint it with anything, even house paint. Very stable, so it will not warp over time. Good for any weather. And the list goes on...
Look up Signfoam3, I use 18lb density 2" thick The cost is steep ($500 and about 97 lbs) but one board produces around 6 times or more in revenue. So you could say "I am lovin it". And it is safer than cutting some of the woods I do that can be harmful to my health.
Only other tools I use are a wood rasp and sand paper, the fastest way to get it ready for primer.
Well worth the cost for 3D sculpturing. Cuts fast, I rough at 70-150 inches per minute. When I get my next machine finished it will triple that speed.
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Forgot to mention you can use automotive body filler (bondo) to repair it too.
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24 inchs tall
4 inch radius
Before and after painting
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My Christmas Present to myself
Red Oak and Maple
One of two I built 11 gun and a 6 gun
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[editor's note: I had to delete a few messages in order to get this thread working again, which may cause an inconsistency in the conversation...]
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Thanks Scott ::) for fixing my screw up
Used to hold an Allen Bradley SLC 503 PLC (Programmable Logic Controller)
with 4 thermocouple module and a 6 input/6 output Relay I/O module
Controls my Fireplace blower (when to come on and off based on temps in Plentem and the room)
Also Gives me the temps of four zones (Room, Basement, Outside, and the Plentem in the fireplace)
and controls one electrical outlet that I use to turn on and off a light I plug into it.
Programed it to come on in the early morning and again in the evening for a few hours.
Everything is programed and monitor from the Panelview 600 HMI (Human Machine Interface)
Even created some ladder logic to compute the day of the week. Fun little bit of programming!
Used Boiled Linseed Oil to finish the bamboo (called Plyboo) box, a very hard wood.
Added a little engraving.
Hidden cabinet door hinges at the bottom to get access to the PLC and wiring.
Beautiful wood to work with, finishes well on the face, sides and ends.
Project I been wanting to do for years.
Just got it hung up so have not finished installing the temp probes as of yet.
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Still learning to love the Dynomotion Kflop + Kanalog system and the +/- DC brushless servos, Lot to learn but it is quick, accurate & powerful.
single 90 degree V tool
about 9.5" square
26 minutes
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Walnut Oval Table Top
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Excellent work my friend, I just love that table top.
Tweakie.
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Thanks Tweak
Here are a couple of more projects I am working on
The three signs are made from white oak and the coffee table is from a huge wild cherry tree, slab cut potato chip I found in my neighbors wood pile. Took a while to get it close to being flat, but I wanted to preserve the bark. Coated with a two part epoxy resin, this I am thinking will be the bottom, but Ya-Nvr-No.
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My latest project, an Engraving bench.
Getting ready for a long winter, thought I'd make a work station to go in my Man cave to hold all the hand tools that are used for scratching metal.
Fun project made of Maple, Oak and Birch
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Very nice Craig !
A cool project indeed.
One that could pay off nicely (when you get those plates done) (grin).
I like the slide out steady rests.
Neat.
Thanks,
Russ
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Yeah, very nice!
Dan
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I'd like a few with a Salmon P. Chase signature, but think I might go for a 1 trillion dollar note, But would that be Barack H. Obama signing it? ???
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I'd like a few with a Salmon P. Chase signature, but think I might go for a 1 trillion dollar note, But would that be Barack H. Obama signing it? ???
Well, first off I'm not even sure that is his real name. Second, I'm sure he would sign it, he hasn't be bashful about this in the past. Besides, why would he not? You have actually prooven you have skills of value! ;D
Brett
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Humor is the only way to get thru an election!
Thanks Guys
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That explains why I'm laughing................ laughing to keep from crying. ;D
Brett
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Griag,
Nice job on the bench. Didn't know you were into engraving. Hopefully it will provide for relaxing work.
Only question, where is the work light?
RICH
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Nice work, Craig, that should provide a nice working area for you.
Would love to see your work as well-
Thanks for sharing-
Dave
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Criag,
Nice job on the bench. Didn't know you were into engraving. Hopefully it will provide for relaxing work.
Only question, where is the work light?
RICH
Light comes from a 5 bay fiber optic light station. I have been saving for this project. One 2" ring light and four 1/2" straight thru beams.
you know me... Ya-Nvr-No just what I am in too.
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Ha, now I get it!! :)
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I'm surprised how quickly young kids pick up on the name. It's like a second language to them. Must be the texting they all do.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Japanese_-_Tsuba_with_a_Frog_in_a_Lotus_Pond_-_Walters_51177_-_Back.jpg
This is a type of engraving and/or forming of a copper alloy. Have you tried anything like this? I have been wanting to try casting the copper discs, they are traditionally cast in water. Pouring molten copper into a water bath sounds scary but I've seen it done and it works. It makes the copper very small grained and it engraves almost like gold. I don't plan on doing the engraving, I'm making the disc for a friend of mine.
Could you imagine doing something like this with a CNC?
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So should we melt down some pennies and try it? :-X
Thanks that is cool
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It would have to be old pennies, pre 1982. Some of the alloys for this have a small amount of Silver or Gold in them. I'll try some with a little Tin first and see how it goes, I doubt if I ever try gold since it's gone through the roof. Although I do have several sheets of gold leaf, I don't think it's enough for the alloy. The gold/copper alloy is supposed to turn a jet black with oxidation. I think the silver is more of a brown color.
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Well, I found out yesterday that I can't melt copper in my electric furnace. Probably isn't a good idea to melt brass in it. I got the copper up to 1800F and the elements broke. When I checked it and the whole element crumbled to little pieces. I'll rewire it and then keep it below 1250F for aluminum and pewter.
I'll have to get the propane furnace out and finish this melt.
I started a melt with 90% copper, 10% tin, and a small amount of copper/phos rod to alleviate gas issues. I had the water bath all set up, too. Maybe next week.
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Sorry to hear you electric furnace broke, I always thought that the temps needed to melt metal was left to gas.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUVUYH_vvZE&feature=channel&list=UL
there are several videos worth watching about this art and his methods.
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I've been following his stuff for a few months, he has a pretty large gallery of things he's done. That is some beautiful engravings. I don't think I have the patience or that my neck could handle bending over the bench.
https://picasaweb.google.com/106800196895572422821/Casting#
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Jammerm: Here is a great collection of links for Engraving
http://www.engraverscafe.com/showthread.php?10579-Links-to-many-engraving-related-sites
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Wow, that should keep me busy for a while, Need to take the laptop to the "Throne Room". I had started setting up an engraving table to cut some printing plates...Not For Dollar bills! Still may try that some time, but I need a mill of some kind to make perfectly flat blanks. I've got too many hobbies.
I may be away for a while, we are going into Move mode. Sold our house and need to find a place...soon. I had just decided to settle in for winter, now I've got to get out before winter sets in. I'll let you know where we end up. Hopefully Chattanooga area, a little warmer and some good fishing.
Everyone be safe, I'll be around.
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That's around my neck of the woods. Lil further south, but close. Definitely a growing city. Lots of industry moving there.
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Pretty close, we were looking around the Cleveland area and Louden. We've kind of settled on western Chattanooga. I was checking into some Iron Foundries in the area but I've had some health problems so I think I'm on early retirement. More time for CNC and Casting, both kinds, casting metals and Lures. :)
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Cleveland is a pretty nice place. Loudon is not that bad either. Loudon is much smaller than Cleveland, but fairly close to Knoxville. Cleveland is close to Chattanooga, but Cleveland is most likely large enough that you would never have to go to Chattanooga. If I had the option of picking a city to move to in Tennessee, Chattanooga would be darn near the bottom of the list. That is just my opinion. I have lived in TN for over 30 years, and just cringe when I have to go to Chattanooga. There ARE nice places surrounding Chattanooga, and most of those areas bring a premium price, but I believe the Knoxville area to be a far superior place to live. Better roads, easier travel, better laid out, nicer surroundings, better neighborhoods, better shopping, etc. Plenty of places to drop a lure, too! I work next door to a small iron casting facility. Got a couple houses to choose from too. ;D Couldn't interest you in an all brick, large yard, in-ground pool with surrounding concrete patio, small bar, hot tub, small pool house, concrete drive, 2 car attached garage, nice neighborhood, right outside city limits of Athens, could I? ;D ;D How bout a VERY nice, newly restored, two story turn of the century house. **end of sales pitch**
Not trying to steer you away from Chatt, because it does have allot to offer some people. Some people would live no where else. Just figured I would give my opinion, even though you didn't ask. >:D
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My fist jewelry piece, Made on my newest rack and pinion built machine (40" x 30" x 2" table)
I recently watched a new TV series called Revolution. There was a new prop introduced, a silver pendant. It caught my eye in that it looked like a perfect fit for ArtCam, Mach3 and my new interest the Lindsay Palm Engraver. Though I used Fortal Aluminum as the base material, polishes well but is a little gummy for engraving. Amazing that from an image, a recreation can be produced. Its not perfect but it was fun and taught me a lot.
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Pendant looks good. Let me know what you think of the Lindsay Engraver......are ya getting lazy and don't want to chase anymore?
RICH
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Rich it is a sweet tool and fun to peel back metal. Always loved to carve and whittle. So I jumped in to learn a new skill. It is not a cheap endeavor because it takes a lot of additional items to do it well. Palm Engraving is so much cleaner then rotary engraving, just seems to capture the light well. I'm enjoying the process. The diamond rotary sharpening tool sure makes all my engravers, knives, drills, wood carving and hand tools super sharp with a very clean straight edge. Find I don't use the pedestal grinder near as much.
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Had some time between building two new control cabinets. Thought this was cute and a quick challenge. I love these servos with the analog dynomotion kflop/kanalog system.
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4 - 3/4" x 3" x 18" long Teak wood strips cut on a 11 degree miter, glued to create arch shape then sanded to suit.
took about 20 hours of cut time 5 endmills from 1/2", 1/4", 1/8", .040" and a .015" 10degree taper, all ball endmills
Local hang out of the summer lakers.
Lots of lakes in this area.
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Excellent work Craig. 8)
Just out of curiosity, was it machined with a flat working plane or did you use a rotary attachment ?
Tweakie.
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Flat, have not had time to install my new built 4th and 5th axis servo driven Trunnion table as of yet. Looking forward to seeing the effects I can create with it. Thanks, I'm having fun. Hope to have my 4 axis Lathe done soon. One servo axis is moving under power. Working on the wiring for the others.
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Very nice! Those look really good!
Brett
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Thanks Brett, but it is a photo of the same one from two sides.
Just delivered it and Dave was thrilled.
Nice to see a happy Bar owner, ;)
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I meant the sign and the bench............... very nice! I saw the bench when you posted and though I commented but must have gotten side tracked.
Brett
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While cutting on the angle plate for my new 4 axis lathe, I had a visitor. ;D
Had to laugh when I caught him on video flinging across the table when he got too close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV30YXFJBxE
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Excellent ! ;D ;D
Tweakie.
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What a trooper! ;D
Brett
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This years Christmas present to myself. ;)
Torso: Hard Maple, Fruitwood stained (4 axis router)
Base: White Oak, Teak stained (Half log section turned on wood lathe)
Tung oil sealed.
Modified the torso demo file from DeskProto to suit my need for a new lamp using Sculptris.
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Excellent work my friend ;)
Tweakie.
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Thank you
Dropped and broke the grip on his carry, asked me to make new ones.
Raster to Vector conversion
Cocobolo wood and Tung Oil Seal
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Nice work, I bet he will be very pleased with that.
Did you flip the image to create the second side GCode or use the same GCode and just reverse the X axis within Mach3 ?
Tweakie.
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Tweakie you know, but others might not.
Reversing the X by setting X axis scale to -1 to mirror the profile for the second side.
That's why part 0,0,0 was the center, bottom face. Same thickness just mirrored in X axis
He showed it to everyone at the next gun show, so I'd say he was pleased.
Thanks again
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Very nice indeed !
Thanks for posting,
Russ
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Was so damn cold this past winter, I was catching up on some good ole TV off the net.
This logo caught my eye and using a screen capture made a new wall hanger/dust collector.
Just cut it out yesterday, so still have not finished it but it is 9" x 12" with a .27" relief.
Cut with a two flute 1/8" ball end mill, single pass. About 4 hours of cutting.
top is the screen capture, center is the 3D rendering and the last is the walnut cutout.
Would estimate about 3-4 hours of development/design time.
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Very nice work indeed. ;)
(that has even brought back memories of the TV theme tune - don't think I missed an episode as a kid).
Tweakie.
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Had to get away from Lua coding for a few days. :o
Neighbor was throwing out an old hutch that was in his barn, was missing the lower two glass panels and needed refinishing bad. But "if it's Free it's for Me" Then of course I had to make a stand to put it on and find a design that might give it a focal point. Internet search found an image that might work. Created a vector drawing and cnc program to cut out the panels. Found the local fabric store had speaker grill material to put behind them to remove the distraction. Seems to work for me. Functional. ;D
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Just noticed the lamps you made. Nice work.
I would imagine that they provide for a nice feel when turning them on. ;D
So are the red manuals for the trumpet and the blue ones for clarinet music in the hutch?
RICH
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Good catch, the Lamp on top was the first thing i every built 1965 Jr High wood shop.
It is plugged in the the PLC as my controlled night light.
I'm not one to read manuals off a computer real well (bifocals :o) So they are all reference documents. Just not labeled as of yet.
The musical instruments are for a lamp I hope to make some day. Items I picked up cheap at garage sales.
Figured giving a wider view in the photo, that people would be looking around, ::)
Most of the books that are in the hutch now are all technical reference material. Keeps them handy as my mind goes from one idea to the next.
Always seems like I have 14 projects going on at a time.
Working on an upgrade to a CO2 laser table now. I have Arts new laser control box built but the working area of the laser table I had was just not to my dreamy needs.
Hoping I can make double duty out of the new project and add a 3d filament print head option to it too.
Looking forward to a productive winter.
Note: Moved my 'Mach4" Laser Build to a new thread
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,28501.msg198592.html#msg198592
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Finally took some time to get my (Dynomotion's KFlop/Kanalog) four axis Lathe using (3) Parker Gemini Servos and (2) Mitsubishi J3 Servo drives all analog 0-10volt setup to cut Threads (G32)
Yes, its just wax, so much easier on my blood pressure. ;) What I'd learned from programming with Lua helped in my need to be able to control the Spindle as a rotating drive and as a positioning device, then have it switch back and forth automatically. Having a vision and being able to achieve it takes TIME. Educating by reading, testing & time to get capable, and get my mind wrapped around all the issues.
Note: The Kflop uses C programming and this was cut using their KmotionCNC software.
Not sure where Dynomotion is on their plugin for Mach4 but the design and build of this machine was focused on having control to turn and contour mill using Mach4 (started this project years ago). Though I used this machine as a turning center over the past couple of years, I am getting closer to my dream. ;)
Never give up 8) Everyone learns at there own pace.
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Couple of quick video I shot today, short cnc dual macro program that cuts the threads and mills the hex.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzUZ9TeJPE&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV54gmcTm0E&list=UUHGIWSo4uMzm3jhpJUzAYrg
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Excellent work Craig that is just brilliant.
Tweakie.
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Thank you Sir, nice to have a plan start to come together. ;D
The photo shows a 1-1/4" x 7 thread cut in 10 passes and 3 cleanup passes at a 29degree angle.
and for you TP you said you like fancy macros and cool code here is the macro I created to cut threads using G32.
Have one for the cutting uniform shapes too (1 - 360+) sides.
makes life a lot easier then relying on a post processor that mostly spits out useless code.
O7734 (G32 Macro for Threading)
#1=-1.15 (length in Z)
#2=1.125 (diameter of screw)
#3=.2 (Z clearance)
#8=.3 (X clearance)
#4=10 (number of cutting steps or passes)
#5=3 (number of cleanup passes)
#21=0 (Start in Z position)
#6=29 (vector angle to thread at)
#7=7 (Threads per inch)
(External Thread Depth = .61343 x [ 1/# of threads per inch])
(Internal Thread Depth = .54127 x [ 1/# of threads per inch])
#20=#2 (X value to go to)
#7=[1/#7] (Pitch Feed)
#9=[0.61343 * #7] (Thread depth at 75%)
#9=[#9/#4] (Thread pass increment depth)
#6=tan[#6*#9](step over value in Z using the vector angle)
#9=[#9*2] (to make it in Diameter mode)
G20 G90
m100 (my spindle orientation call)
G97 S400 M04
M98 P100 L[#4] (cut threading passes)
M98 P101 L[#5] (cleanup passes)
G0 X#2
M30
O100 (Cut)
G00 X[#2 + #8] Z[#21 + #3]
#20=[#20 - #9]
X[#20]
G32 X[#20] Z[#1] F#7
G00 X[#2 + #8]
#21=[#21 - #6]
Z[#21 + #3]
g4p2
m99
O101 (Finish)
G00 X[#2 + #8] Z[#21 + #3]
X[#20]
G32 X[#20] Z[#1] F#7
G00 X[#2 + #8]
Z[#21 + #3]
g4p2
m99
Note: No guarantees it works on your setup as this was written for kmotionCNC until Mach4 plugin is done.
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HIYA Craig THAT is the beauty of parametric Gcode and subs. Even better when you add in conditional to the Gcode.
Have you tried cutting the hex on the lathe. We had a discussion going on a while back on doing that.
(;-) TP
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Thanks, yep I've cut squares, hex's and rectangles so far. Did you not see the videos I linked to earlier?
Still adding to the macros, added calculations and new features.
Hopefully with Mach4 we will get it all. Only time will tell.
I'm as happy as a kid at Christmas with how this is working so far. I love my Dynomotion/Kflop/Kanalog package.
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In the video you cut the threads THEN milled the hex correct ?? What I was talking about was using the lathe bit to cut the Hex shape instead of milling it.
(;-) TP
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Craig here is a Video of the process using Mach3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DajrTlI8IWA
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Ya I remember that video, I thought it cool too, but having the mill head I don't need to worry about shaking my machine like the exercise machine that Mom had in the 60's. ;D
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Since I've made that video, been using this little program every now and then. Saves lots of time and makes life simple. However, cutting a hex with a standard tool bit hardly gives sufficient clearance. Starting from octagon and on things get better. But in plastics and aluminum, hexagons are no problem either.
Dan
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Thanks Dan for letting me try your code out, not sure id ever use it but Ya-Nvr-No
Had to make some changes as it did not work the same for me as you.
It did not want to rotate the spindle fully till I added some multipliers and loop indexers
but I did get it to work, cool code thou confusing to follow.
Here's a real short clip of it running. (slow) ;)
http://youtu.be/kA1u10cX2SM
Update: Think I figured a use for this, I need to create a hex in some large screws. Think I will try to adapt it to do ID hex profiling, If I can get it close to size I can then Grind a hex in a old carbide end mill and then use it as a sizing broach. 8)
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Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Just pay attention to the clearance of the tool when you do the hex.
Dan
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Using 4 tools I ran my first full program to complete a 1/4-28 bolt with a 1/2" hex including part off. So its coming along nicely.
You think Lua is tough, working with Dynomotions C programs makes it all worth while. Whole different world working with source code and controlling machines. Then again Macro A and FapLadder was a PITA to learn too. 8)
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good work
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Well done!
Have to start learning LUA. Need Mach4 functionality on a couple machines. Bought licence copies in pre-release sale, but waiting for the ESS plugin to be fully functional.
Dan
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YaNvrNo, any more details or build threads on your 4-axis?
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Other than what I posted on the dynomotion site I have kept it pretty :-X But its damn functional for what my plans are for it. I love the kanalog board that goes with the kflop, true servo motor control. Nice to be able to control both positioning and low to full speed with either a positional movement "G0 C45" or a mcode "m4 S900" and then also do the same with a mill spindle head "G0 B180" or "m104 S3000" and use both spindles at the same time in any combination. m102 turns off the mill spindle or m5 turns both off And being servo its fast. Also the spindle override slider works to control them independent. Then as soon as the spindle stops the axis DRO is updated, the C program source code computes and updates to the correct 0-360 degree. Also on a m30 I have it spindle orient so the chuck key slot is up and accessible. Also as a plan is using it as a tool and cutter grinder to resharpen end mills. Just takes a lot of time to get it all to come together. I was out writing macros today to do spiral machining.
Servo tuning with the Dynomotion system gives me some rigid spindle holding capabilities.
On a side note, two of my routers have the provision for a dumore tool post grinder mount that I use to resharpen my lawn mower blades. Its all automatic and although it takes most of a work day for a 6 blades, they never need to be checked for balance. ;) Ya-Nvr-No what I,m doing from day today. So I always design and build for fit, function and adaptability. I write alot of parametric macros, easy for me to follow and they are tight & short. Gets the job done well and again, adaptable.
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I noticed your posts over on the yahoo group, and it still amazes me some of the simple solutions that Tom suggests, for what appear to be complex problems.
I was more interested in some photos, as your video only gives a little glimpse of the machine. I was only being nosey, as I like to look at what other people have created to see what ideas can I borrow for my own equipment :)
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Cant say it was a simple implementation, ;) as it took a couple of days of debugging to get it to work perfect. real dance with the c code threads. The more I learn about programming the better I get at achieving my needs.
Hopefully when I start creating my dream projects, I will provide some videos that show more. But the real show to me is what's inside. I've been a tool maker for over 45 years, learning to control those tools is what drives and impresses me now days. ;D Because when it comes down to it, we just want to get the job done.
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just watched this think its up your alley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6o6W6X-88M
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Thanks, Yep I like gang tooling machines, programmed them for years, just never had one with live tooling. A few turrets machine I programmed had live tooling.
Forgot to mention, this will handle 9.5" inch diameter 36" long piece for turning and milling or a 20" diameter piece in the table gap. And the milling head can be manually rotated 90 degrees to machine in line with the lathe spindle axis. Tried to make it as versatile as I could with the components I found available.
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its still a nice piece of equipment
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Couple of poor photos of the first rotary carving, but it gives you the idea what this thing can do.
Adding a servo driven 6th axis to it this week. So needed to make a mounting plate for the rotary positioner.
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LOOKIN GOOD Craig, (;-) TP
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Nice when things come together and you can fun. Keep up the good work.
RICH
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Excellent work Craig, this adds a whole new dimension to those curved signs of yours. ;)
Tweakie.
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Thanks Guys, Yes I'm having FUN
Though Not a true power workhouse, This thing does have some versatility. ;)
Used ArtCam for shape design from dxf file and then to create the stl file, Rhino to position the stl object in 3d space, DeskProto to generate the gcode, then a text editor to swap the axis's to the lathe profile.
Takes Years, a lot reading and then Trial & Error till it finally starts to make sense.
Now to see if I can write a post processor for Rhino5/MadCam 5axis
Lot more head/brain work than designing & building Progressive or Deep Draw Dies. :o
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" Lot more head/brain work than designing & building Progressive or Deep Draw Dies. " :o
Say it aint so Craig, Say it aint so. ;D
(;-) TP
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got the 6th axis mounted and almost fully tuned, looking like it just might be a viable feature. I'm liking it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsjisSgdE8
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That is ALL you could give us, 6 seconds ? :D
(;-) TP
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teaser
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Converted two 4 cell MagLites to one 3.6volt rechargeable cell. Loving this lathe to cut ID and OD threads 27mm 1mm pitch. Makes a great lite next to the bed.
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Very neat work Craig ( it makes it a better length to fit onto the 'old faithful' you keep under your pillow ;D )
Tweakie.
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Thanks Tweakie, but by Old faithful, you mean "The Judge" :o
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Nah......the 44 old mag.....with mercury filled 240 hp's. Splat! ;D
RICH
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I like the multiple Splat's , ;)
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I have a love-hate relationship with these wedge block tool holders.
Found when I added one that the handle interfered with another one.
So I found the angle wrote a macro and machined 3 new holes 90 degrees apart @ 74 degrees in this case. (that must be... China 75 degree)
Now have this machine configured to be setup as a lathe or a mill (in this case I ran it as a mill using X & Z to feed in and out)
z=x
x=y
y=z
c=a
a=b
b=c
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how many more axis are you going to add that is a cool looking machine
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Thanks, I still can add two more controllable drives ;D
here is that macro I wrote, thought others might like to see it or adapt it to their needs.
By changing a couple of variables and making sure where your part hole center line and the hole face is, this will peck at any X Z angle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I35FEU8EDjk
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Russ do you recognize these? ;)
Made a few, and a few extra so I can get back to that Laser build project. (Thanks again for the extrusion)
http://youtu.be/9i8FNma-OlM
damn poor Photo shows the ID hex turned with a single point tool on the lathe.
Video shows the turning, threading, center hole and cross hole operations.
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Yes I Do !
IIRC, pretty pricey from Phoenix Mechano.
I was just recently thinking of giving you a bump on that other project, hope to see some progress reports soon.
Sure was good to see someone make good use of that aluminum. I had far more than I would ever need. (famous last words)
Fancy schmancy little machine you got there. A hybrid, mutant, crossbred looking device. Better not make it too smart, it might turn on you one day. (and watch that sweatshirt sleeve) ;)
Good job, thanks for posting Craig,
Russ
:)