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Title: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Jeff_Birt on June 12, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
I just updated the SmoothStepper upgrade guide first posted a few months ago. The new version is here: http://soigeneris.com/Documents/Installing%20and%20Configuring%20the%20SmoothStepper.pdf (http://soigeneris.com/Documents/Installing%20and%20Configuring%20the%20SmoothStepper.pdf)
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: awander on June 18, 2010, 10:03:12 PM
Link doesn;t work for me...
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Jeff_Birt on June 18, 2010, 10:38:06 PM
Try again, I just clicked on it and it worked.
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: budman68 on June 19, 2010, 07:12:37 AM
Working perfectly for me as well-

Dave
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Chaoticone on June 19, 2010, 09:09:50 AM
Link works good and the guide looks good brushing over it. I'll have to read it all later. Thank's Jeff.

Brett
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: cac67 on October 04, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Thanks for the nice writeup.  It was the last piece I needed to get moving.

The link didn't work for me, though.  I backed up to your homepage and followed the documents link from there and found it here.

http://www.soigeneris.com/Document/Installing_and_Configuring_the_SmoothStepper.pdf

Notice the missing s in /Document/
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: budman68 on October 04, 2010, 11:19:39 AM
Yes, the link is indeed dead at this time.

Maybe Jeff will fix it soon?

Dave
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: wyzarddoc on October 07, 2010, 05:00:43 PM
Does anyone have documentation on the SS connectors and which pins connect to which inputs?? Need to wire-up Estop and limit switches.
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Hood on October 08, 2010, 02:17:15 AM
The pins on the SS are like the parallel port, in other words on Port 1 you have 1 to 9, 14, 16 and 17 are outputs and 10-13 and 15 are Inputs. Port2 can be either the same as port 1 or you can configure it so that Pin 2-9 are Inputs rather than outputs but all other pins remain the same. Port 3 has 5 inputs 3 of which are differential so can be used for encoder/MPG inputs if your encoder MPG is differential.
As for which Input or Output does what, well that is up to you and you just configure that in Mach, for example if you have limit switches connected to Port 1 Pin 10 you just assign that in Machs Ports and Pins, Inputs page.

Hood
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: wyzarddoc on October 09, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
Hood;
Thanks so much for the info that's what I thought from the documentation but couldn't verify.
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: CNC_Dan on August 25, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
The pins on the SS are like the parallel port, in other words on Port 1 you have 1 to 9, 14, 16 and 17 are outputs and 10-13 and 15 are Inputs. Port2 can be either the same as port 1 or you can configure it so that Pin 2-9 are Inputs rather than outputs but all other pins remain the same. Port 3 has 5 inputs 3 of which are differential so can be used for encoder/MPG inputs if your encoder MPG is differential.
As for which Input or Output does what, well that is up to you and you just configure that in Mach, for example if you have limit switches connected to Port 1 Pin 10 you just assign that in Machs Ports and Pins, Inputs page.

Hood
Can you walk me through that a bit more?

Currently I have a running 3 axis CNC.  I'm running XP, Mach3 to my Smooth Stepper, to a G540.  On my machine my Y uses two steppers so I use Y & A from the G540.  I'd like to add a 4th axis.  I purchased a 2nd DB25 cable for port 2, a C10 BOB and G251X driver.  I have a basic idea of how things work, but can't figure out how to tell Mach3 which output (in the ports and pins section) the 4th axis (B) stepper will be.  Gecko provides a doc for the G540 so I never learned how to do this.

Hood, I understand what you're saying about the layout of the pins being like a parallel port.  But, my 4th axis uses port 2.  I see that I need to tell Mach3 port 2 is up (the check box), but what will the pins be?

Thanks in advance,
CNC Dan
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Hood on August 26, 2011, 02:45:20 AM
The pins will be whatever you have the drive connected to, afraid I cant say more than that as I have not wired it :(
Hood
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: wyzarddoc on August 26, 2011, 05:47:35 PM
CNC Dan;
Does your driver board have 4 outputs?? if your using Y and A outputs then you might not have enough driver/stepper outputs. Worse case hook it up like you think it should be and put a volt meter across the 4th axis output run 2 or 3 g code statements and see if the voltage on the output changes
good luck
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: TakitaJ on August 26, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
You would connect pins 2 (step) and 3 (dir) of port 2 to the G251 step and dir pins  just like it's done with the other 4 drives on port 1. Then in Mach3: config->ports and pins, enable the B axis and set pin2 port 2 for the step and pin3 port 2 for dir. You will have to look in the manual for the G251 pinouts for step,dir, ect.. As far as I know both the SS and Mach3 are supposed to be capable of driving up to 6 axis.

TJ


EDIT: I missed the part where you were using port2 for the A axis. You can put it pretty much anywhere on pins 2 thru 9 on either port, it's how you set it in config that counts. It could even be b=pins 2 & 8. I think most people use the 2/3=x 4/5=y, 6/7=z convention cause it's easy to think about it that way.
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: CNC_Dan on August 28, 2011, 06:02:31 PM
Hey folks,
Sorry for the delayed response, life always gets in the way.  Attached is my current ports and pins layout.  And, here's a link to my C10 BOB manual http://cnc4pc.com/Tech_Docs/C10R10_USER_MANUAL_V2.pdf

I do understand the C10 connections (2, Com, 3) to the G251X (9, 10, 12).  At least I think I do.  The thing I don't understand is what do I tell Mach3 to get it to turn the 4th.  As you can see on the ports and pins layout, numbers 2-9 are all taken.  Do I go to 10 & 11?  Also I made a mistake earlier, I meant that I wanted to put the 4th on the "A" axis, my Y is now my Y & B.  Oh, and disregard the spindle settings; they are not used.

Thanks,
CNC Dan
Title: Re: Updated SmoothStepper Installation and Upgrade Tips
Post by: Hood on August 29, 2011, 11:28:04 AM
You would tell Mach which pins on Port 2 you have it physically connected to so it may be 3 and 4 , the difference is you will say its port  2 . You already are using pin 2 on port 2 for the spindle so you cant use that.
Hood