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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: FAllen on February 10, 2010, 01:37:42 PM

Title: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: FAllen on February 10, 2010, 01:37:42 PM
I notice that when I try to change jog cycles in Turn the increments always go from high to low regardless of whether I push the right or left arrow. Is this a bug? It is not really more than an annoyance, but I wonder if there is bug list somewhere so users can consult that to confirm whether or not their system is functioning properly? Thanks, Frank
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: Hood on February 10, 2010, 01:55:29 PM
I have no idea why the Turn screen has two arrows, they are both the same button so only Steve Blackmore who designed the screen will be able to tell you why he did that.
You could if you wished make them VB buttons and put some VB in them to go Up or Down depending on which one you pressed.
Hood
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: RICH on February 10, 2010, 02:49:10 PM
You can change the jog order in CONFIG>GENERAL CONFIG...( LOWER MIDDLE PART OF PAGE) and they will change in whatever order you put them. I no longer use the standard screen and don't miss those arrows at all.
RICH
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: FAllen on February 10, 2010, 03:05:12 PM
Rich,

I am not sure what it means to not use the Standard Screen. Where do I get screen alternatives? Frank
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: FAllen on February 10, 2010, 03:11:37 PM
Rich,

I just checked the Config>General Logic screen and guess that you are referring to the jog increments table. I am familiar with that from your training material (I believe one of the videos). But I think this only refers to the increments not the ability to change them on screen by either asking Mach3 to go up one step or down. My point was that when I try to change jog increments now I can only go down. If I want to go up I have to cycle through the whole table. Is there another way of doing that? Thanks, Frank
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: RICH on February 10, 2010, 04:56:14 PM
I don't know, sometimes you use stuff and just get used to using it the way it is and works well enough.  ;)
Nope don't have an answer for you.... ???
That's why we need fresh blood in here........  ;)
RICH
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: Hood on February 10, 2010, 05:51:00 PM
Frank
 as said before I dont know the reason Steve put an up/down button on that screen as there are no such buttons in Mach, you only have a button that will cycle through the increments.
You could as I said adapt a screenset and change the buttons to VB buttons, you would then open the screenset from the View menu and browse to your screenset (the one you just changed) and load it. You would then need to write some VB code into these buttons to do what you wanted.
I will not go into the details of this as you are starting out and it might just complicate things, once you gain experience with Mach and the way things work you can moive another step forward.
BTW I for one think you are doing the right thing by asking questions, if you dont ask you dont learn and even though the manuals have most of the info its written in a language you dont yet understand and believe me I know how that feels, I was in the same position as you 5 or so years ago :)
Hood
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: FAllen on February 10, 2010, 11:16:54 PM
Hood and Rich,

Thanks for those helpful comments. I have so much to get on top of right now that I am not going to try doing my own screens. I think cycling up and down is useful and when I figure out how to do that will implement it. I love the idea that users can dig in and make modifications and look forward to giving that a try.  Frank
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: M250cnc on February 11, 2010, 05:34:14 AM
FALLen

Please try my screenset, i use an MPG manual pulse generator "Two Actually"

On the manual page i have a jog set at .0125mm the jog DRO is on the screenset so it can be changed

I also have buttons for setting the jog type again on the screen.

So in use i select velocity/step as i wind the mpg faster or slower i can jog near the part.

Then i select Step then one click of the mpg moves the axis .0125mm

With two mpg's i can move both axis at once

I am running the lathe using a laptop and a Smooth Stepper

The standard screenset was designed by a non lathe user and it is so dis similar to the mill it is untrue even to the point that on the mill hitting the space bar will put you in feed hold but on the std lathe set it will perform a STOP where you will lose position

HTH
Phil

Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: Hood on February 11, 2010, 07:21:30 AM

The standard screenset was designed by a non lathe user



Think Steve would have something to say about that ;D

Hood
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: FAllen on February 11, 2010, 11:59:43 AM
Phil,

Thanks. That sounds fascinating and exactly what I would like to be able to do. I will dig into it over the next few days and hopefully not make to much of hash out of it What kind of MPG do you use?  Frank
Title: Re: Jog Button Uni-directional in Turn
Post by: M250cnc on February 11, 2010, 12:34:07 PM
Phil,

Thanks. That sounds fascinating and exactly what I would like to be able to do. I will dig into it over the next few days and hopefully not make to much of hash out of it What kind of MPG do you use?  Frank


Frank,

You again.

I use these http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=207 (http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=207)

I just need handles to turn, they are semi fixed to the lathe so i can turn both at once.

Phil