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Mach Discussion => General Mach Discussion => Topic started by: FAllen on February 09, 2010, 11:07:33 PM
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I have a small program that am testing with Mach3 Lathe. I want to step through the program but it appears there is no way of knowing if step mode is on. Am I wrong about this? I can't find any indicator that tells the status of the toggle. So what I do is push cycle start and if the programs starts to run more than one block without stopping I push Feed Hold. However when I do that the program does not stop. It appears the only way I can stop it to hit STOP. Can any one explain how Feed Hold is supposed to work and if there is anyway of knowing what mode Single is in? Thanks.
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If you are meaning Single Block then what you do is press that button and the LED at the side of it should flash to let you know you are in single block mode, then Start and it will move one line of code, start, it will move the next etc etc.
Feedhold should stop the motion, how fast will depend on the acceleration of you motor tuning but should be fairly quick.
Stop should only be used as an E-Stop when in motion or can be used to clear the buffers if for example you have previously done a feedhold and wish to restart the code. If you press Stop while an axis is moving then it is likely that you will lose position and need to re-reference your machine.
Hood
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The original TURN screen doesnt have the led.
When I was using the original lset I added a flashing red one..OEM 82 w/screen4.
Russ
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Hood,
Add Russ's comment above to the list of things to do for the lathe screen update in Ver 4.
RICH
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Thanks for those comments. I am running the R3.042.033 Version of Turn. I see no LED next to that button. Are you possibly referring to Mill? Is the fix mentioned by Russ something I can try?
Feed Hold is working for me in my office unconnected to my machine so I will check on that again in my shop later to day. Thanks.
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I was meaning Turn but I use my own screen so I just assumed (wrongly) the LED was on the standard screen.
Yes you can use one of the screen designer programmes and add the LED yourself.
Hood
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Just tell me if I am asking for too much hand holding, but where do I look for information on customized screens. I know there is a wiki site and have looked at it, but is there any section of it or some place elsewhere that gives an overview what goes on when you try this? Do people have Screens they share? I know there is a forum on Screens, but I wonder if there is a beginner orientation anywhere? Thanks, Frank
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Think there may be a video on Screen4 but its fairly simple to make a screen yourself. I like Screen4 others hate it and prefer MachScreen. Just use one and mess about with it, it will soon become clear how to use it.
There are screensets available from the Download button at the top of the form.
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HMM....Phil, were are you? maybe you can add the above to you screen set.
Fallen,
Suggest you use Phil's screen instead of the standard one, but, that's just my nickle.
RICH
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Ok, thanks for all that advice, but I don't know what it means to download a screenset. Of courses, I know what downloading is and I can guess that a screenset is some sort of template that dictates how screens are laid out, but what are the mechanics of screensets? I have looked in my iindex, no such word.
Phil has pointed out to me the benefit of using the Find command in Adobe. I do that and find one reference. It is typical of the ambiguity that I find so frustrating about this manual. It says, in passing, talking about the DriverTest utility that:
"Other programs such as a screen designer and a manipulator for screenset files are available as a separate download."
Nowhere, as best I can tell, does it tell you what a screenset file is or how it is used. Can somebody point me to some instructions? I hope these aren't unreasonable questions. Frank
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FALLen
I did an apprenticeship many moons ago, there was no internet, even calculators hadn't been invented.
Now Hood admits that he was a fisherman before becoming an engineer and hats of to the guy.
But maybe Hood has a natural talent for it as he is one of the most knowledgeable guys on this forum.
What i guess i am saying is that some people have it and some don't ;D
I think its great people want to be an engineer, now i am and have been a little sarcastic but i feel that i am entitled. As i say i had to believe every thing i was told i didn't have google to go and check.
I have been told to get some "Spots for the spot welder" from the stores along with asking for a "Long Wait" every one was talking about "Thou's" i had to ask what is a thou. ::) I have now gone over to M&M's now ;D
So to learn about screens go here, that's all they are talking about http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/board,17.0.html (http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/board,17.0.html)
That is where you will find my screen set it has a flashing Led for single step mode to let you know you are in that mode Rich even put a doc file there in how to download and install it. How the hell he "Rich" missed it i do not know ;D
What i guess i am saying is that it is a long road to being an engineer maybe you should join a group with a mentor to start on the long road
Phil
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It is typical of the ambiguity that I find so frustrating about this manual.
All i can say is you got to write one to find out just how hard it can be. Feels like your your
being torn apart as you try to anticipate the ambiguity and your focusing zooms in and out so many
times the head starts to hurt! ;D
Easier to wite a lump sum deisgn specification for a multi million dollar project! ;)
RICH
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How the hell he "Rich" missed it i do not know
How many times must i say that i can only write and can't read, and also color blind. ;D :D ;)
RICH
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Those were the days, long stands, new bubble for the level, sparks for the grinder, buckets of blue steam, and glass hammers, when my nephew started working for a local engineering shop we had a glass hammer water jet cut for him, oh boy did that spoil there fun ;D
Graham
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Yep, new kid in the engineering center and they told me i would need some info to check some design.
Off to the catalog center i went,asking for a, Fritz Glitz Bubble Caps, Sump Pump Gump Pump, and a few others
with similar goofy names.
That mean old grump lady behind the counter told me to get lost and don't come back until i grew up.
Now i am grown up and still can't the catalog's. You figure it ........ ;D
RICH
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Those were the days, long stands, new bubble for the level, sparks for the grinder, buckets of blue steam, and glass hammers, when my nephew started working for a local engineering shop we had a glass hammer water jet cut for him, oh boy did that spoil there fun ;D
Graham
Yeah forgot the sparks. ;D
How many times must i say that i can only write and can't read, and also color blind.
RICH
Now here is something, nearly everyone can walk, and do it without even thinking, but it's taken Honda years to get Asimo to do same.
Phil
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I get the feeling this thread is about to be hijacked for a while...... >:D
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LOL, The jug of air, sky hook, bolt stretcher....................... I still enjoy sending the new guys to the supply room. >:D Almost as much fun as telling them to write all their notes to the higher ups in Crayon on construction paper so they can understand it. LOL Were an awful group................ LOL
Brett
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Tiny the 6'9" -375# welder used to take the new guy and show him how he could bend the 3/4" bar around the back of his neck. Then he would say that ya had to be rather tough to work in the place. He would give the new guy a welding rod and ask him to prove he could handle the small stuff. That weld rod coating between the cheeks can be really nasty......especially in the hot of the summer....... ;D
RICH
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Yup, I usually give them a hand full. LOL
Ever give them the personality test with a tpe measure?
Brett
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I guess when a thread becomes a Hot Thread you know you have annoyed a few people. Well at least it provoked some sarcastic humor which has me laughing. I probably would have found it funnier if understood more of the references. Maybe when I find that mentor...
Thanks for pointers on screen sets. Frank
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have annoyed a few people
Your not annoying anyone. We just get silly in here once in a while, think you got your questions answered
and if not reply back.
RICH
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I guess when a thread becomes a Hot Thread you know you have annoyed a few people. Well at least it provoked some sarcastic humor which has me laughing. I probably would have found it funnier if understood more of the references. Maybe when I find that mentor...
Thanks for pointers on screen sets. Frank
Frank, as Rich said you are not annoying anyone, when that happens we just ignore each other ;D
Phil