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Mach Discussion => Mach Screens => Works in progress => Topic started by: M250cnc on December 27, 2009, 05:51:16 PM
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This is version 22 of my lathe screen
Let me know what you think
Comes with all new graphic buttons for a uniform look
The New Screen zip should be unzipped to the Mach3/bitmaps folder
I have updated the screen set file it had a rogue graphic in a place that i couldn't get to it
I had to go back to a previous version to edit it in the overview page it only showed up if you had screen to fit ticked in general config
Another tip is the MPG flyout screen "TAB" it appears that it doesn't display correctly in that some info is missing but you can drag the left hand edge to show all of that screen. ;D
I have added some further features to the screen along with pictures so you can get the feel of it before installing it then finding you don't like it.
The first pic is the default page the Manual Screen
The second page is the Cycle screen this has two views
A normal toolpath display and a choice of a large toolpath display
Then there is the Diagnostic page which hopefully you won't need
Then there is the Wizards page, just one click away with the added bonus that you can save the code generated via the edit button choose another wizard i have even included the threading wizard so all the Wizards are together
The normal way to get a wizard is six clicks then another six clicks to get another
Simple plain layout that's easily changed
If you like the look you need to copy all the bitmaps from the turnaddons folder and add then to the newscreen folder along with the new button graphic for the wizard these can be added to the main graphic files attached above.
Phil
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Here are some pics
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Hi Phil,
Sorry to say it is only for *BIG* screens, my preference is to use small TFT's on lathe say 8" with TOUCH not using any kind of pen even with on-screen keyboard
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Bengt
It was NOT designed as a touch screen.
It works fine on the laptop with 14" screen
Phil
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What's next Phil?
Looks good and will try out the latest version.
I still didn't didn't get the modified and additional turn wizards. Eventualy though!
RICH
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Phil,
A SETTINGS button needs to be added back into the Threading Wizard. I think you may have deleted or replaced it by mistake.
RICH
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Hi Rich
I believe i need to speak to Klaus because there is some problem that some elements that are on the page but do no display when the file is opened in Mach.
Another tip is you can still use the Wizards as before from the drop down screen, but i will check it out myself.
Edit I have just tried it "The Wizard" it was the same as the standard wizard there are thirteen dro's to enter figures, maybe you have a special one with all the testing you did. ;D
Phil
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Phil,
Open the Simple Threading Wizard using the drop down screen. When it opens you will see that are four
buttons, Exit/Save Settings/Post Code /& Settings. If you click on the Settings button it will invoke another window
where you can set thread settings such as the infeed angle, spindle direction, pass depths, etc so there are an
additional 5 inputs besides the 13 in the first window.
That Settings button dosen't appear when the Simple Threading Wizard is invoked by your wizard screen.
See pic:
RICH
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OK OK It was me ::) ::)
I have replaced the file in the first post
There is also a small change where i have added the shuttle mode and led indicator to the screen
This has a new button graphic i have also added the wizard graphic to the zip file
I was playing with the shuttle yesterday and thought that it was great hence that was why i added it.
Phil
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I'm sure i will have more comments as the screen set is used. I am playing around with the lathe indexer and the A axis
updates realy came into use.
About the only jumping around i do now is with the zeroing of the axes and i think that needs to stay on the manual screen.
Like the Wizard button. ;)
Goods updates so far.........
RICH
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Ok, the threading works now. I noticed you got rid of the save settings button and that the settings are saved
when you exit the wizard. I always save the settings so no strong feelings about it being eliminated. Maybe somebody else can chime in about it.
RICH
( The following is just a reminder to myself so i don't forget about it and can find it. ;) Can inputs be added on the Simple Threading Wizard settings screen for the three different cuts types / two different infeed types / instead of going into configuration to change them. Config should still default back to 0 setting for both on startup. Add a button or input selection for code output from the wizard ( ie; G32 or G76 / M1076 true to false )
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Hi Rich
New file uploaded to include save settings button
Can you be more specific of these other settings/dros as they should be easy to add to the lathe wizard.
An example would be good
Phil
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If they are easy to do then add them.
See page 44 in the Threading On The Lathe Manual ( in Members Docs ). It provides explaination for each of those inputs in configuration ( you will not find anything else about them). Now the code posting one is covered on page 47 of that write up ( i don't know if you can do that one). It would be nice to have them in the wizard because all the threading options would be in one place. I am going to guess that those settings will default upon
exiting Mach.
Heck while your at it, you can add a button for the G76_threads application ( located in the mach directory ) as that one provides user info which you would then just use / input on the settings. There is a free program called Threads which Scott included with his threading program and it is very nice to have as a flyout when your doing threading. The two files would just need to be added to the Simple Threading directory. If you want more info on this i will post. Not a necessity to have these but makes for a more complete threading operation without having to go in and out of the threading wizard.
Let me know if you need anything,
RICH
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Hi Phil,
Nice screen set. I've just set up my lathe and am finding this a lot easier to use than the default.
I'm not sure if I've done something wrong in setup but there's no images in the Wizard pages although I got the bitmaps installed for the main menu pages.
Rab
http://www.cnc-toolkit.com/ (http://www.cnc-toolkit.com/) - Open Source 5-axis
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Rainea
The graphic files are in the standard C:\Mach3\TurnAddons\Turning\Bitmaps and C:\Mach3\TurnAddons\Simple Threading (Lathe)\Bitmaps
Which is the default folder, they should appear OK
Phil
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Thanks Phil,
I copied those bitmaps over to C:\Mach3\Bitmaps\New Screen
all show up fine now,
Rab
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Phil,
Thought the A axis was complete, but the manual screen needs the Rotation Radius "A" input ( right hand corner in Settings tab / of mill screen) else the graphics display won't show the A axis and you can't set a feedrate.
I'll repost with specific info later.
RICH
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Rich can you reply with what you want/need with one of your screenshots
Phil
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Hi Phil,
This is what i was talking about. But there maybe a problem and if it's true then maybe
it shouldn't be added. In the mill screen the value you input is the Z distance from the axis for feedrate compensation for a diameter. In the lathe screen you are using the Z differently than the mill so you don't want to use it's value. And if you can substitute or change change script to say the X not sure if it will work.
So need some clarification around this. Maybe someone can reply and enlighten us.
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Here is a different question:
Would it be worth adding buttons to swap an axis ?
The buttons would swap and reinstate the original axis via a macro.
The screen has been modified for limited rotary, indexing via a stepper,and frankly if you wanted to do more complicated stuff the Mach MILL screen can be utilized or a page added. Just trying to think some out of the box!
RICH
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Phil,
Like the "big" toolpath display and decided to download the .lset and bitmap files. Placed .lset file with the other .lset files and the bitmap files under the turnbitmas. Screen loads however the buttons do not show. The buttons are active if I click on spot. Any suggestion on how to get buttons to show?
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dgoddard
The graphics files should be in a directory called "New Screen" and new screen will be in the bitmaps folder as C:\Mach3\Bitmaps\New Screen
Phil
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Thanks, got it working. Had the New Screen folder under turnbitmaps. One thing I did to the 1024.lset (saved as new new .lset) was to add the "Axis Calabration" feature found in the mill 1024.set to the lathe .lset. Sure makes step per inch fine tuning much easier. Just throwing it out there.
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dgoddard, The Axis calibration can be a nice feature but it shouldn't be something you use often. The steps per values are hard numbers based on facts. The only time it should ever need adjusting is if a piece of hardware that effects the steps per. is changed and only if it has different specs. than the previous. If this is something you have to do often tell us about it and we will try to get it so you don't.
Brett
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dgoddard at the beginning of this thread i asked for feedback as none was forthcoming i assumed that the screenset was perfect. ;D
Brett he has a point, now as i put ballscrews on my lathe i have no need for that feature but someone who connected to a standard lathe setup the Z axis would be a rack and pinion with no easy way to find the ratio
Maybe the Screen 4 guru's will take note
Phil
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Swap the axis and use Mach Mill as it' only a one shot deal.
RICH
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Swap the axis and use Mach Mill as it' only a one shot deal.
RICH
Good point. Had not thought of that. I'm learning Screen4 by adding auto probing functions to a new screen in Mill and found it easy just to add the Axis Cal to the lathe screen.
Phil, you noted that you did not need as you added ballscrews. I found that on both mill and lathe (both with ballscrews) that the calculations for "steps for inch" in a perfect world would be perfectly accurate, however due to slight variance in mechanicals, etc. most of the time actual will differ from calculated. Not much, but it's an ego factor to be as accurate as possible.
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dgoddard,
I didn't just accept the fact, i checked using a slip gauge and it was bang on correct.
Phil
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Phil,
I hope you don't mind me adding to your work. Your layout is much easier to use than the standard set. I figured I would add a few features to it and share it so everyone could enjoy. It is far from finished however all the wizards should work fine. The ones that are finished are...
Drilling
OD Facing
ID Groove
My goal is to all all these features to all the wizards. I also have a few features planned for the threading wizard. I would much appreciate feedback on this. Please let me know if you find any bugs or would like to see something additional added. Phil if you have any issues with me furthering your work please contact me and I will have the files removed.
Thanks,
Wes
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Wes,
Just loaded the screen and the additional wizards are nice and are additive. Haven't tried them out.
RICH
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On some of the wizards it would be nice to change the bitmaps to show the pathing as shown in the attached.
Just never got around to doing it. A little off the thread topic....... ;)
RICH
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Rich,
Unfortunately one area I am lacking in is graphics design. I can however add of change the images inside the screen to what ever is needed. Maybe someone would like to help on this and create a uniform set of images for this?
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No problem Wes, it will get done ........one of these days. Till then the original bit maps will do.
RICH
I am attaching a marked screen shot of a few other wizards, they provide for chamfering and also machining towards the tailstock.
I haven't tried them and a friend did them and i haven't tested them. Sorry for the red markings as that image was used for something else.
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Here are a few screen shots of some of the features for the people who asked. :)
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Hi Wes, Rich,
Thank you for your work on the lathe wizards. Much appreciated!
Would you please direct me where do I download the additional wizards from and how do I install them? Are they tied to the above particular screen set?
And if I may ask for something (don't know if it's the right place), I would like to have a wizard that does concave OD arc. It is the opposite of the wizard called "OD Arc 3".
Thanks,
Dan
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Dan,
The wizards in here are tied to this screenset. As soon as they are completed I will be creating a stand alone as well. If you are willing to test I will see what I can do to create you a wizard that does what you are looking for. Let me know. Yes please also create a new topic on your wizard request so this area is not cluttered.
Wes
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Hi Wes,
OK, so where do I get the latest screen set and wizards from? If you can do the wizard I would be glad to test it.
Since you're working on this, can you please start a topic for suggestions and new wizards development?
Dan
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Phil,
I hope you don't mind me adding to your work. Your layout is much easier to use than the standard set. I figured I would add a few features to it and share it so everyone could enjoy. It is far from finished however all the wizards should work fine. The ones that are finished are...
Drilling
OD Facing
ID Groove
My goal is to all all these features to all the wizards. I also have a few features planned for the threading wizard. I would much appreciate feedback on this. Please let me know if you find any bugs or would like to see something additional added. Phil if you have any issues with me furthering your work please contact me and I will have the files removed.
Thanks,
Wes
Hi Wes thank you for asking but sure its fine by me. I also have made improvements to the screenset insofar as to me its finished but a lot of the improvements use the standard buttons so i need to make all these and they take time, they are things that allow easier control for manual operation as that's something i miss.
Phil
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I created a new thread for posting wizard requests called "3 PAGE LATHE SCREEN - Wizard Requests".
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,16630.msg112681.html#msg112681
RICH
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please feel free to use my "Practical Lathe 2.0" screens if you need some of its layout or functions.
Let me know if you need any screen/wizard help from me, I have done a few of both.......
scott
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Thought you or others might be interested in a program I wrote several years ago for my needs when it came to editing code for my lathe routines. Written in Visual Basic so you might have to have a VB dll file to run on some older PC's
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I hope someone who is running Phil's lathe screen set can help me.
I had a mach3 meltdown and need the image files that reside in the NewScreen folder that you create when you install Phil's lathe screen set. I think its called #22Lathe.lset
If someone could please go into their NewScreen folder and copy all the image files for me and email them to me I would be MOST GRATEFUL!
Hope you can help,
Nate
natefoerg@gmail.com
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natefoerg,
I use a modified version of the screen set.
See the attached info in the first post of this thread.
RICH
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Hello Rich-
I have got used to the standard 1024l.set and want to move forward
I actually need to have 3 axis functionality so that I can use tailstock for
drilling etc??
I installed the mill screen set (1024) but it seems only to work in radius mode
while all my drawings are in diameter mode.
Am I missing something in the settings ( also the 1024 set is not displaying the
toolpath)??
But now I just picked up your 3 page lathe screen which i would like to instal
before making major changes.
Does this screen set have 3 (or more) axises?
(I would choose to work with your code rich because I have been following your
support in the forum and I feel we are speaking the same language!!! )
Best regards
Fred From south africa
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Fred,
The screen set has X,Z,A . You can change the A, and what ever buttons etc. are related to A, to Y axis rather easily in the screen editor.
May consider running Mach version of 3.043.062 .
I have modified the Three Page Screen Set a lot, to my liking, and continue to modify it adding with all kinds of stuff.
I use a quick change for my lathe ( drill holes using the Z via a drill mounted in a holder ) and added tool probing in the setup screen to find the lathe center, populate and manipulate the tool table, etc.
Enchanced most of the screens, added wizards and in particular the threading, drilling and the conversational screen which can do a bunch of things.
Ie; Probe for points on a piece and create a dxf file of them. I attached some screen shots of the set.
RICH
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Thanks rich--
I dont mind what the third axis is called - so "A" will be sh for that.
Thanks for the input and I will upload and try out ADSP
Fred
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sorry Rich
What is the file called and where can i find it
Fred
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A is a rotary axis ( ie; index or linear). I believe you would want to change the DRO and associated buttons for the Y.
Then gcode could be more conventional for using the motorized tailstock.
What is the file called and where can i find it
What file are you talking about?
RICH
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Fred,
Install per instructions and also install #22 and #24 lathe files shown in the first post of this thread.
THEN just copy the attached #24latheY.lset file to the Mach3 directory.
The attached screen set has the Y axis instead of A.
You need to create a new bitmap to change the "Zero World A" button says to
show Zero World "Y".
The button as is will work for the Y but you really should change what it shows.
Merry Christmas,
RICH
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Hey Rich-- so nice of you thank you--
I hope that your fortunes match your name-- if not then I hope that they soon will
Happy Christmas to you and yours and everything of ther best for the new year
Regards
fred
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So your going to use the Y axis on the lathe for drilling.
Assume you will just manually move the tailstock and that the ram is motorized.
Correct?
RICH
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Hello rich, how can i find the WIZARDS_VMR ?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2016, 06:01:45 AM by RICH »
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I think at one time I posted some pic's of my personal screen set showing what modified wizards were incorporated into the set and the file was called WIZARDS_WMR.
Is that what you are asking for?
RICH
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I would like to try, its lathe vmr screen, looks very good
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Currently don't have any plans on sharing my screen set.
RICH