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Title: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on November 24, 2009, 09:54:16 PM
I have been planning this for a long time. I just have not had the time or money to start on the project. I have changed my mind on the design many times. I think I finally have it down the way I want. for the most part it is going to look like any other C-frame style brakes with a few improvements.

Specs:

48" wide
58 tons
6" inches of ram travel
2 axis servo backgage
Mach 3 control with a Dynomotion motion controller for the  control of the +-10V analog Parker Proportional valve.
5hp, 2.5GPM pump.

I will be building the entire thing including the cylinders. ( That's what I do for a living.)

I am going to start of with building the 2 cylinders first. The cylinder are 5" bore, 3" rod, and 6" stroke.

Pile of Parts
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0443.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0444.jpg)

Rough machining of the base heads. I will finish machine them after I weld them to the barrel.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0445.jpg)

Pistons are next.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0446.jpg)

Checking the threads with a Go gauge.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0447.jpg)
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Rod heads next.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0449.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0452.jpg)

Piston rods next
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Weld prep on the barrel.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0457.jpg)
 
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: PROTOPLANT on November 24, 2009, 09:58:47 PM
Beautiful parts, it will be great to see how the project comes along.  On your 6-jaw chuck, what do you call those pads on every other jaw that act at parallels?  That would be amazingly handy, I'm not sure how I've gotten by without that!!

Dustin
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on November 24, 2009, 10:06:49 PM
Beautiful parts, it will be great to see how the project comes along.  On your 6-jaw chuck, what do you call those pads on every other jaw that act at parallels?  That would be amazingly handy, I'm not sure how I've gotten by without that!!

Dustin

It's a 4 jaw and there are 4 bars bolted on the chuck then the blocks bolted on them. I have many different length blocks for any kind of setup. The bars are tapped all along the length so you can move them up or down. We just call them chuck stops.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: GAWnCA on November 24, 2009, 10:38:05 PM
That is great!!!!  I want one!!!  Can't wait to see it as you progress along.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Chaoticone on November 24, 2009, 10:49:49 PM
Seems your off to a great start.  :)  Very interesting project.  What gauge metal will you be able to bend at 48 inches long?  What radius will the bend be?

Brett
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on November 24, 2009, 11:00:04 PM
Seems your off to a great start.  :)  Very interesting project.  What gauge metal will you be able to bend at 48 inches long?  What radius will the bend be?

Brett

It will bend 48" of 3/16" steel. Radius is dependent upon lower die v opening. V width is usually 8 times metal thickness. So for 3/16" you use a 1.5" die opening. I think it will give you around a .234 radius.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on November 25, 2009, 07:10:27 AM
That's going to be some machine looking at the quality of your work so far.
Can't wait for more photo's.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: KTM on November 25, 2009, 01:18:18 PM
Very interesting build.

Is it a down stroking machine? I have done them with PLC controls and it gets quite tricky to synchronize Y1 and Y2 in real time. It will also be interesting to see how you handle the tooling and program libraries in Mach.

Regards

KTM
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on November 26, 2009, 12:10:10 AM
Very interesting build.

Is it a down stroking machine? I have done them with PLC controls and it gets quite tricky to synchronize Y1 and Y2 in real time. It will also be interesting to see how you handle the tooling and program libraries in Mach.

Regards

KTM


Yes, down stroking machine. The upper die holder will be riding on Hiwin 35mm linear rails so don't need to worry about synchronization.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 11, 2009, 09:04:31 PM
I finally got some time after work tonight to work on the cylinders again. I got the ports welded on and the Id threaded. I also ordered 2650 pounds of steel for the frame. I should have it next week.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/barrel.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: SteinarN on December 12, 2009, 12:52:04 PM
I'm really looking forward to se this project developing.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: RICH on December 12, 2009, 03:34:24 PM
Will enjoy following along as you build it so keep posting pictures.
RICH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JHChoppers on December 12, 2009, 05:31:39 PM
Nice work, please keep posting updates.

JH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 18, 2009, 10:45:09 PM
I got the caps welded on the barrels and milled out a slot then drilled a few bolt holes through. I also got the wrench flats milled on the rods.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0463.jpg)
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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0467.jpg)

I then went and picked up the flame cuts. I had a buddy that works at a steel place get and cut me out a bunch of 1.25" HR plate.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0470.jpg)(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0471.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on December 19, 2009, 02:56:08 AM
Excellent pics, this is real engineering.

Hey, looks like your buddy has drawn Wylie Coyote for you on that top sheet.  ;D

Tweakie.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on December 19, 2009, 04:08:32 AM
Poor truck. :D

Looks like your making progress!
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: ftomazz on December 19, 2009, 04:25:46 AM
Quite a good work! Good pictures also.

You look a kind of guy that could use a lot of seals. If you ever need a machine for making seals...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22lsgJOHVUU
or just the seals ... ;)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JHChoppers on December 22, 2009, 09:17:00 PM
Thats a BIG project.  How did you get that unloaded ?  My back hurts....

JH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on December 22, 2009, 09:23:10 PM
I think the mag lift is the unloader, not the loader.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 22, 2009, 09:31:15 PM
Thats a BIG project.  How did you get that unloaded ?  My back hurts....

JH

Magnet and crane at work. When I get it home, tractor, cherry picker and straps.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on December 22, 2009, 09:36:31 PM
Oh, you mean it's not staying in that building? Better be one helluva cherry picker!!
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 22, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Oh, you mean it's not staying in that building? Better be one helluva cherry picker!!

All of the pieces will be bolted together. There is no way I can move it around my home shop without doing it this way. The side plates are 880lbs. and the smaller ones are around 425lbs.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 28, 2009, 07:26:36 PM
Today I started milling up the frame for the brake. I got the sides almost done and started on the upper and lower beams.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0482.jpg)

Upper beam
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0484.jpg)

Lower beam
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0483.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on December 28, 2009, 08:20:19 PM
You'll be bending before you know it.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 30, 2009, 12:27:38 AM
I got the cylinders assembled and tested.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0486.jpg)

Did a little bit more work to the lower beam.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0485.jpg)

More work on the upper beam.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0487.jpg)

Cylinder test fit.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0488.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on December 30, 2009, 10:30:08 PM
Finished drilling all the holes in the side plates.
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Finished tapping the last hole in the upper beam.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0491.jpg)

Turned some 4340 spuds to mount the cylinders to the beam.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0492.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0494.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JLfabrication on January 13, 2010, 11:26:59 PM
Have you made any more progress on your project? I am very interested in the outcome of your design. Looks like great Craftsmanship so far. I have a four foot brake built by another individual that I purchased instead of building one as I originally planned but I haven't been satisfied and am now considering building a new one. I would like to see yours if possible when you finish. I am only up in Lebanon and make it to Eugene every once in awhile. I am curious what shop you work for? I have had a few large projects done down there in the past.

Only thing I would worry with the smaller linear bearings is if they will hand the twisting force if you tried to bend something off center. The last shop I managed had a 300 ton 12' Brake and we bent on the ends frequently when forming the corner of a tray or something similar. I realized it is best practice to bend in the center of a brake but clearance issues sometimes always don't agree. 

Looking forward to your updates

Jason
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 14, 2010, 01:02:24 AM
Have you made any more progress on your project? I am very interested in the outcome of your design. Looks like great Craftsmanship so far. I have a four foot brake built by another individual that I purchased instead of building one as I originally planned but I haven't been satisfied and am now considering building a new one. I would like to see yours if possible when you finish. I am only up in Lebanon and make it to Eugene every once in awhile. I am curious what shop you work for? I have had a few large projects done down there in the past.

Only thing I would worry with the smaller linear bearings is if they will hand the twisting force if you tried to bend something off center. The last shop I managed had a 300 ton 12' Brake and we bent on the ends frequently when forming the corner of a tray or something similar. I realized it is best practice to bend in the center of a brake but clearance issues sometimes always don't agree. 

Looking forward to your updates

Jason

I made a few more little brackets for it and started the die holders. I am going to assemble the frame this weekend.

I work for Parker cylinder.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JLfabrication on January 14, 2010, 10:59:26 AM
Good luck with your progress. A friend of mine built some hydraulic test benchs for your shop last year I believe.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 15, 2010, 10:58:30 PM
I did not have to work today, so I went in and made the upper and lower die holders. Hopefully tomorrow I can start assembling the whole thing.
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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0497.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Chaoticone on January 15, 2010, 11:07:06 PM
They look good. Parker cylinders are top shelf and evidently they are pretty good to work for as well.  :)

Brett
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JHChoppers on January 16, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
looks great, are you making the dies too ?

JH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 16, 2010, 11:59:25 PM
looks great, are you making the dies too ?

JH

No, to much work. I will be buying them from Riteway. They are not cheap but well worth it.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 17, 2010, 12:10:36 AM
So, today I got it mostly assembled. I had to use some good old redneck engineering to put it all together but it all worked out great. I had my dad help me out with the tractor work.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0500.jpg)
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Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Overloaded on January 17, 2010, 12:25:20 AM
 Damn....that looks really good !
Those look like Hiwin blocks.
 If they are, are they ball or barrel roller type ?
Excellent job you got there.
 Beautiful !
Russ
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 17, 2010, 12:32:26 AM
Damn....that looks really good !
Those look like Hiwin blocks.
 If they are, are they ball or barrel roller type ?
Excellent job you got there.
 Beautiful !
Russ

They are Hiwin HG35 ball type. I called Hiwin and the sales guy talked me out of the RG roller type. He said if they are not loaded to over half of the dynamic load the rollers will just skid and burn.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Chaoticone on January 17, 2010, 01:54:14 AM
Nice, very nice. Looking forward to the videos of it in action.

Brett
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: edvaness on January 20, 2010, 08:33:45 PM
Looks real good.
 I would have to say ,  flex won't be a problem.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on January 29, 2010, 07:52:58 PM
Today I got the backgage started. I machined up the ball screws and made the end supports. I also started machining up the frame for the backgauge.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0514.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0511.jpg)
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Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 05, 2010, 10:17:13 PM
Today I got the manifold all done and also the Y block.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0517.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on February 05, 2010, 11:40:22 PM
Parker valves too eh? That's dedication. They should give you a raise.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 07, 2010, 01:28:08 AM
I made some spacers to hold the beams parallel. Then started to tack the cross braces into place. I also cut out all the parts for the hydraulic tank on the plas, then welded the tank all up.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0518.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0520.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0522.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on February 07, 2010, 02:57:06 AM
Lookin good. Is that a Mach controlled plasma cutter?
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 07, 2010, 11:19:00 AM
Lookin good. Is that a Mach controlled plasma cutter?

Yes, it is. It also has a Candcnc mp1000 THC. I built it a few years ago.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 07, 2010, 11:31:07 PM
Today I mounted the tank, made the motor and pump mount and also mounted the manifold.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0524.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0527.jpg)
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(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0532.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JLfabrication on February 07, 2010, 11:59:44 PM
Machine is looking great I wish I had the time and equipment to build such a nice machine. Keeping posting your updates I enjoy seeing the progress and can't wait to see the finished product. Keep up the good work.

Jason
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 14, 2010, 11:28:56 PM
Yesterday I got the tank all pressure tested and finished, the backgauge all done and finished all the plumbing. I still need to finish making some support brackets for the hard lines.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0538.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0537.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0536.jpg)
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Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 14, 2010, 11:32:32 PM
Today I got the electronics started. I mounted the control box, Wired the power supplies and the motor starter. I also cut out a front plate for a small fan and a db25 connector for the MPG. I also cut out a rear plate for the motor power wires, encoders, limits/homes switches and for the valve.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0554.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0555.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0556.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Chaoticone on February 15, 2010, 04:43:56 PM
Looking good. Getting close now.  :)

Brett

Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Sam on February 15, 2010, 06:37:23 PM
Certainly impressive! Nice photo's you've taken and shared with us.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Hood on February 15, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
Looking forward to seeing this working :)
Hood
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 21, 2010, 10:55:40 PM
I got a little bit more done this weekend. I mounted the the linear scale on the ram, wired the motors, valve and started tuning the motors and valve. I still need to mount the home and limit switches. I got everything tuned pretty good. I can move the ram up and down several times and have it repeat within .0005. It is not real fast but it will get the job done. I even bent a piece of scrap I had laying around. I took a short video of the ram doing some 1" moves. I will post it up shortly. Hopefully next weekend I can totally finish this thing up up a bend a bunch of stuff. I will take a good video of the machine when I get it all running.

I still need to tidy up all the wire once everything is final.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0558.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0559.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0564.jpg)

I know I said i was going to use a Newall SPB-TS encoder but I was running out of cash and this accu-rite was half the price. They are both 5 micron scales.
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0561.jpg)
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Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on February 21, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
Crappy Iphone video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDkmankePU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDkmankePU)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JHChoppers on February 22, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
Looks great !!!!

JH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: zafarsalam on February 23, 2010, 01:42:06 AM
I stumbled on this thread late. Really impressive work. Looking forward to seeing it in action.

Zafar
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on March 07, 2010, 12:33:50 AM
I got a little bit more done on it tonight. I finished wiring the limit and home switches. Here is a quick video of the back gauge in action.

YouTube - Mach3 dynomotion Cnc press brake (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5R7O8GPSSg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on March 07, 2010, 02:22:44 AM
Very impressive video - great work.

Tweakie.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: zafarsalam on March 07, 2010, 03:17:31 AM
Good going. When do we expect to see it doing some bending.

Zafar
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on March 07, 2010, 09:15:40 PM
Today I bent up a tray for the computer to sit on and made a articulating arm for it to mount to. I still need to figured out how to get the backgauge to home in the dynomotion software. Everything is written in C+ and I don't know jack about it.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0572.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: zafarsalam on March 07, 2010, 11:03:01 PM
Excellent work. What's the gauge of sheet and what's the bend radius.

Zafar
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on March 07, 2010, 11:38:42 PM
Excellent work. What's the gauge of sheet and what's the bend radius.

Zafar

11 gauge steel, bent using a 1.5" lower die. I think its about a .250 radius.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: KTM on March 17, 2010, 11:03:17 AM
You should be able to do the homing routine in Mach3
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on April 04, 2010, 12:16:19 AM
Finally got some more time to mess with it. I bent up a bunch of test pieces getting everything dialed in. I bought Solidworks 2010 this week so I am trying to get the K-factor dialed in on the software. Here is a better video of the brake and a test part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hfwvIbnjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hfwvIbnjo)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: ostie01 on April 04, 2010, 01:29:49 AM
Hi, very nice project and very impressive.

For myself, the best way to configure Solidworks for sheet metal, is to build your own Excel sheet with value you get from bending on your press.

K factor is good but very limited.

Before bending, try with a scrap piece of the same material and enter in your Excel sheet the value you got.

Best luck.

Jeff
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on April 04, 2010, 02:07:52 AM
Hi, very nice project and very impressive.

For myself, the best way to configure Solidworks for sheet metal, is to build your own Excel sheet with value you get from bending on your press.

K factor is good but very limited.

Before bending, try with a scrap piece of the same material and enter in your Excel sheet the value you got.

Best luck.

Jeff

I had to go down to a k-factor of .34 on .250 and .188 HR steel to get it to hold tolerance. Should I use bend allowance instead? I am new to all this.
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: ostie01 on April 04, 2010, 02:48:05 AM
Solidworks sheet metal is driven by an Excel sheet.

http://www.sheetmetalguy.com/tips_gauge_table.htm

http://www.sheetmetalguy.com/tips_bend_table.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL3bjgcLW-4&feature=related

http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/5296159/13967039

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2864503/solidworks_tutorial_sheet_metal_applying_k_factor/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkxJ3JchLuc

Just take a look at this website, very very good.

I bought all 3 of his books and it help me a lot.

http://www.sheetmetalguy.com/swsmg03.htm.

Hope this help.

Jeff

Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: zafarsalam on April 04, 2010, 02:53:30 AM
Very impressive! Are you using proportional valves or the servo valves. What procedure did you use to tune both the valves to operate in sync. I wonder if this thing can be done with Galil motion controlers hooked with servo valves.

Zafar

Finally got some more time to mess with it. I bent up a bunch of test pieces getting everything dialed in. I bought Solidworks 2010 this week so I am trying to get the K-factor dialed in on the software. Here is a better video of the brake and a test part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hfwvIbnjo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hfwvIbnjo)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: bigtoy302 on April 18, 2010, 11:02:16 PM
So today I bent up my first project. This is the reason I built the brake. I have other products planned but these will be them main thing that I will be building. Even though this thing has a lot of steel bending 2ft of 1/4" still flexes the machine several thousandths. So I have to add more angle to the longer bends then the shorter ones. Not a huge problem but I still have bend some longer parts to really see.

(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0616.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0619.jpg)
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/bigtoy302/IMG_0618.jpg)
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: edvaness on April 19, 2010, 12:11:10 AM
good job, But , you'll need some more weld. lol.  :D
 Also you need the winch on the rear with an anchor, cause them Toyotas don't want to stop.

Thanks for sharing.

Ed

Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: JHChoppers on April 19, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Super nice work !  Start cranking out the parts man...

JH
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: zafarsalam on April 19, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
Awesome. I'd love to see the finished part (with paint and fittings).
Title: Re: My CNC pressbrake build
Post by: Tweakie.CNC on July 26, 2010, 07:52:03 AM
Hi Bigtoy,

Have you finished and painted it yet ?
How does it perform, as well as expected or better ?

So many questions, please let us know the latest and perhaps some more pics.

Tweakie.