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Third party software and hardware support forums. => LazyTurn => Topic started by: andreroest on January 26, 2016, 04:55:53 AM
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I am working with mach3 now for two years.
When I tried to use lazyturn I follwed the guidelines but no G code was presented.
The strange thing is that when I followed the example stated in Lazyturn quick and dirty the cilinder showed exactly the same as in the example , the tool was made BUT after filling the rough profile box IT IS NOT SHOWING atoolpath alongside the length of the cilinder but only at the front end (the facing of the cilinder) so the distance between the yellow and green Arrow.
This means that no metarial is shown to be removed.
What am I doing wrong?
can anybody help me please?
Kind regards,
Andre :-[
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I tried to do the chest figure and it appears now with toolpaths but it remains to postcode.
PLEASE HELP!(Im running in wndows 10)
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see attachment 1 of 3
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the next one
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the last one no postcode!!!!
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When you post code the Code Prolog opens and that is where you can add comments / whatever to the code file that will be posted.
If don't want any the leave blank.
When you click Post in that dialog you should get windows dialog so you can pick a place to store the file.
I don't use Windows 10 so can't help you there.
RICH
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Rich,
Thank you for your answer, but that is not the problem.
I save the file to a given directory but it is empty so no code is made!(.tap file is 0 bytes)
I saw in te comments that multiple persons has this kind of problem but it was not clear to me how they solved this.
(I openend windows as administrator etc. but nothing helps)
When I import the dxf file in lazycam then a gcode tap file is made but of coarse then all the additional information is lost (toolpaths etc)
Any other suggestions for me what i cab try?
Kind regards,
Andre Roest
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I saw also that when I made a comment that this was also not implemented in the .tap file (still zero bytes)
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Rich,
Is there any possibility that I import the lazyturn layout with toolpaths etc. JUST BEFORE postcoding in lazyturn in lazycam because I can postcode the file then in lazycam itsself to a working tap file
Kind regards,
Andre Roest
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Is there any possibility that I import the lazyturn layout with toolpaths etc. JUST BEFORE postcoding in lazyturn in lazycam because I can postcode the file then in lazycam itsself to a working tap file
Not that I am aware of. Two different programs and LT was done to replace LC lathe module since the tooling in the LC module was never finished.
One can use LC lathe, but it will be a challenge............!
I save the file to a given directory but it is empty so no code is made!(.tap file is 0 bytes)
Did you select the ToolPaths that you want to generate code for BEFORE posting?
RICH
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Oh BTW,
There is a manual for LT. Read it and don't hack the program.
RICH
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The manual was written by me almost 6 years ago, so yours truly had to go back and have a look at it! :D
Did you install LT per page 6 in the manual?
Again can't help on the Win 10 stuff....I am still at XP and Win 7. :)
RICH
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Rich thanks for your answer again.
I installed lazyturn directly out of the download area of mach3.
I suppose that that is the best (and latest) one to install.
Perhaps it is best that I try it again on a computer with windows 7 OR xp on it.
I have the funny idea that I am still doing something wrong.
Is it possible that i can report to you by a photograph every step I make and perhaps you can recognize a mistake I make.
(the only problem is that every photo represents 3,5 Mb so that I have to sent it to you in perhaps 10 separate replies.)
Or is there another way to deal with this?
On forehand thanks for your help
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The reason I mentioned the installation per the manual is that if LC is not per the stated version LT may not work properly
and I don't know what is in the download section. So the safest bet is to check versions of both LC & LT that you installed.
?? About will display the version.
I am not really sure you are doing anything wrong. I have a good example in the manual and one can use the dxf file provided
and just follow what I did. You should end up being able to post the gcode.
If you can try it on W7 or XP if you can.
RICH
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Rich,
Lazycam is version 3.0 and lazyturn is version alpha 1.1
Are these the latest ones?
Kind regards,
Andre
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LazyCam needs to be LazyCam Version 3.00.2.
LazyTurn should be LazyTurn Release 1.1.
I believe that is the problem since you are missing files.
See page 6 in the LazyTurn Manual.
RICH
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Rich,
I installed lazycam 3.00.2 and lazyturn 1.1 now the toolpath is visible (roughpass only) the simulation works BUT the after clicking PST the only gcode which are shown is : Firts post en G20 ----nothing else the saved file remains empty.
The right working space shows:
LazyTurnProject
tonrond.dxf
Stock diameter: 7.8202
Start Stock Volume : 367.970 mm^3
Display in diameter mode
Display in mms
Toolpath
Rough profile
perPass : 0.1000
Feedrate : 1000
Tool: TOOL 1 -R0.5000-IC4.000
Toolpost#: 1
Thats all
Fine pass not in the upper toolbar and when you click on Toolpath > fine path it gives a comment that it is not implemented.
Any idea what is wrong??
Kind regards,
Andre
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Why not just Duplicate what shown in the manual, starts at page 37 so that all the toolpaths are created.
This way I know that the info is there to post.
If you use Skype we can set up something, but I will say this.....
Everything I know about LazyTurn is in that manual.
RICH
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I just installed Lazyturn on my win 10 computer and had the same problem
Try this. It has been so long since I did it i had to search for the solution again.
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15727.0.html (http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,15727.0.html)
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Andre, Mike and anyone else .......................
I would appreciate if you can try the fix as posted in the link / reply #18 for Win 10 and if possible also Win 8.
Unfortunately I don't use now, or plan in the near future, to run either of those Windows versions.
Post back here how things went,
Appreciate it,
RICH
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The fix for Win 7 is in Members Docs under the topic RE: LAZYTURN MANUAL, reply #2, based on what Mike wrote. ( a year ago )
Here is the link:
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,10091.msg206325.html#msg206325
I will update that reply with new information as it relates to W 8 & 10 when you provide it.
RICH
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Works on both windows 8 and 10. I did it awhile ago on 8 and just did it last night on 10 before posting.
Mike
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Thanks Mike for confirming. Will update what is in LazyTurn Manual link.
Appreciate it,
RICH
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Hi Rich,
No problem.
THANK YOU for all the hard work, time,and effort that you have put into lazy turn over the years.
Hopefully I will be in a position to use my lathe soon.
Mike
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:D Rich,
It is working like this!! Thank you for all your help that I received from you.
I have only one question left.
I saw that in lazyturn 1.1 the fine toolpath was skipped while in version 1.0 it was still in.
Was it skipped because in version 1.0 it was not working in the right way or can I still use version 1.0 instead of 1.1?
Kind regards,
Andre Roest
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Andre,
There is a button to create a fine pass in 1.1.
Don't use 1.0, use the latest.
RICH
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Rich,
Do I have still the wrong version then?
My version is stated with: LazyTurn Alpha 1.1 Copyright (C) 2008
In this version there is no button Fine Path in the toolbar.
The ony thing is that you can click toolpath>>Fine path >> and when I click on OK then a statement is shoen ! Not yet implemented Stop clicking me! ..:)
Seems to be a pre version 1.1??
Kind regards,
Andre
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this is a photo after trying toolpath>>fine path >> OK
Gives a failure
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Here is the link fro the latest version of LT.
Is that what you installed?
http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,5767.msg95122.html#msg95122
RICH
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There are no other LT posted versions after the one posted in reply #28.
Before yes , but after, no!
RICH
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yes I have installed that one
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Here is what I would suggest:
You can run LT outside of MACH / independently:
So create a directory / folder, say call it, Lazyturn.
Now install LC, the update to LC, and the LT version in that folder.
This should be done per what is written in the manual.
Run LT from that folder.
I don't know what else to say,
RICH
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Better yet,
Install on a thumb drive, and run it in XP.
I will do exactly what is in the manual putting it on a thumb drive and run from XP, but probably won't be today.
Got to go,
RICH
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I just checked and I am running windows 10 and LT 1.1. I am able to do a rough and a fine pass without any problems.
The only error message that I get is if the first tool doesn't leave any material for the fine pass.
Mike
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:)Rich nd Mike,
Thank for your help.
Finally it works the only thing Im yet facing is that in the rel world the settings doesnot correspond.
1mm equls in mach3 now 0,05 mm so that the machine blocks t the end.
Il have to find this out because manul control and wizrds are working well.
Kind regrds,
ndre
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Finally it works the only thing Im yet facing is that in the rel world the settings doesnot correspond.
1mm equls in mach3 now 0,05 mm so that the machine blocks t the end.
Happy you got it working. :)
Not sure what you saying in your reply.
For LT, if in metric, draw in mm, use LT in mm, Mach should be configured for mm.
RICH